| 14 Oct 2006 11:56 pm |
King of the Gamer Army Rep: 38  Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 14,674 OFFLINE | Zucas wrote:
GG- oh sweet the recruitments are in. Finally someone knows what the hell is going on. Duh if someone makes a very controversial video concerning a conspiracy theory about 9/11 and the next month he turns up dead what the hell are people going to think. A conincidence. Whoever had written that article was thinking like a person but not a government. He acted as if the government was some nice heavenly body that never does wrong. The government can and has and will kill it’s own people for it’s view to gain power, money, ect.
Yet, how does the government benefit from that? ---
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| 15 Oct 2006 12:00 am |
Agent of Chaos Rep: 54  Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 39,967 OFFLINE | the21gamer wrote:
Zucas wrote:
GG- oh sweet the recruitments are in. Finally someone knows what the hell is going on. Duh if someone makes a very controversial video concerning a conspiracy theory about 9/11 and the next month he turns up dead what the hell are people going to think. A conincidence. Whoever had written that article was thinking like a person but not a government. He acted as if the government was some nice heavenly body that never does wrong. The government can and has and will kill it’s own people for it’s view to gain power, money, ect.
Yet, how does the government benefit from that?
Depends on the situation. According to the Loose Change conspiracy the Government benefited by 10 billion dollars for the cost of 3000 American Lives, gained a reason to go into Middle Eastern soil and protect the oil that is so precious, and take out hostile dictators and terrorists in the regiou. I see that as quite a lot of benefits from the government’s part of view. ---

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| 15 Oct 2006 12:01 am |
King of the Gamer Army Rep: 38  Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 14,674 OFFLINE | Zucas wrote:
the21gamer wrote:
Zucas wrote:
GG- oh sweet the recruitments are in. Finally someone knows what the hell is going on. Duh if someone makes a very controversial video concerning a conspiracy theory about 9/11 and the next month he turns up dead what the hell are people going to think. A conincidence. Whoever had written that article was thinking like a person but not a government. He acted as if the government was some nice heavenly body that never does wrong. The government can and has and will kill it’s own people for it’s view to gain power, money, ect.
Yet, how does the government benefit from that?
Depends on the situation. According to the Loose Change conspiracy the Government benefited by 10 billion dollars for the cost of 3000 American Lives, gained a reason to go into Middle Eastern soil and protect the oil that is so precious, and take out hostile dictators and terrorists in the regiou. I see that as quite a lot of benefits from the government’s part of view.
Yet we are in even more debt after the war. ---
 the21gamer wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
Did you hear me? I’m a bigger better pussy than you’ll ever be.
Wtf...
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| 15 Oct 2006 12:03 am |
Agent of Chaos Rep: 54  Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 39,967 OFFLINE | Alright here’s some review on the Loose Change video from the San Francisco Chronicle:
“It’s very true that some of the more specious conspiracy claims have been largely discredited and proved false. Some of the more radical 'evidence' gathered by theorists is quite suspect and easily placed in the category of no-way-in-hell. This is valid. You have to chew through a lot of skin and gristle to get to the real meat. But...it is quite impossible to watch the entire 'Loose Change' documentary and not come away just a little shaken, a little awed by the sheer number of perversely interrelated facts and aberrant coincidences-that-aren’t-coincidences."
— San Francisco Chronicle, 3/29/06 ---

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| 15 Oct 2006 12:04 am |
Agent of Chaos Rep: 54  Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 39,967 OFFLINE | the21gamer wrote:
Zucas wrote:
the21gamer wrote:
Zucas wrote:
GG- oh sweet the recruitments are in. Finally someone knows what the hell is going on. Duh if someone makes a very controversial video concerning a conspiracy theory about 9/11 and the next month he turns up dead what the hell are people going to think. A conincidence. Whoever had written that article was thinking like a person but not a government. He acted as if the government was some nice heavenly body that never does wrong. The government can and has and will kill it’s own people for it’s view to gain power, money, ect.
Yet, how does the government benefit from that?
Depends on the situation. According to the Loose Change conspiracy the Government benefited by 10 billion dollars for the cost of 3000 American Lives, gained a reason to go into Middle Eastern soil and protect the oil that is so precious, and take out hostile dictators and terrorists in the regiou. I see that as quite a lot of benefits from the government’s part of view.
Yet we are in even more debt after the war.
Yep we are trillions in debt but every billion counts eh. ---

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| 15 Oct 2006 12:08 am |
King of the Gamer Army Rep: 38  Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 14,674 OFFLINE | Zucas wrote:
Alright here’s some review on the Loose Change video from the San Francisco Chronicle:
“It’s very true that some of the more specious conspiracy claims have been largely discredited and proved false. Some of the more radical 'evidence' gathered by theorists is quite suspect and easily placed in the category of no-way-in-hell. This is valid. You have to chew through a lot of skin and gristle to get to the real meat. But...it is quite impossible to watch the entire 'Loose Change' documentary and not come away just a little shaken, a little awed by the sheer number of perversely interrelated facts and aberrant coincidences-that-aren’t-coincidences."
— San Francisco Chronicle, 3/29/06
Reminds me of The Da’Vinci Code.
Also rememebr coincidences are very common in life, especially over a course as long as the government’s life.
I’ve run into people in San Francisco during summer and none of us planned to be there at all. ---
 the21gamer wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
Did you hear me? I’m a bigger better pussy than you’ll ever be.
Wtf...
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| 15 Oct 2006 12:08 am |
Agent of Chaos Rep: 54  Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 39,967 OFFLINE | That article in the San Francisco Chronicles is exactly right. If I could find my original post to when GG posted the videos I was just very unaccepting to even watch it cause I knew there was nothing out there to disprove 9-11 and I was angered by someone trying to. But it’s hard to watch that video. May be one of the hardest to sit through videos you ever have seen. Just to see all these facts presented and disprove things that had been engrained to know is just sometimes to much to take in. If you watch the video you know what I mean. I mean it’s difficult. I mean you should have seen my change of attitude from watching it and then the next post coming back. I mean I was like woah. Everything I had just known about 9-11 had just been flipped around and I didn’t know what to believe. THis video did that for me and if anyone has watched it they know the feeling as the writer of that article is. It’s simply bonechilling. ---

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| 15 Oct 2006 12:09 am |
King of the Gamer Army Rep: 38  Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 14,674 OFFLINE | Zucas wrote:
the21gamer wrote:
Zucas wrote:
the21gamer wrote:
Zucas wrote:
GG- oh sweet the recruitments are in. Finally someone knows what the hell is going on. Duh if someone makes a very controversial video concerning a conspiracy theory about 9/11 and the next month he turns up dead what the hell are people going to think. A conincidence. Whoever had written that article was thinking like a person but not a government. He acted as if the government was some nice heavenly body that never does wrong. The government can and has and will kill it’s own people for it’s view to gain power, money, ect.
Yet, how does the government benefit from that?
Depends on the situation. According to the Loose Change conspiracy the Government benefited by 10 billion dollars for the cost of 3000 American Lives, gained a reason to go into Middle Eastern soil and protect the oil that is so precious, and take out hostile dictators and terrorists in the regiou. I see that as quite a lot of benefits from the government’s part of view.
Yet we are in even more debt after the war.
Yep we are trillions in debt but every billion counts eh.
When your indebt yes but all that power and money is no use if your country is going to hell. ---
 the21gamer wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
Did you hear me? I’m a bigger better pussy than you’ll ever be.
Wtf...
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| 15 Oct 2006 12:11 am |
Agent of Chaos Rep: 54  Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 39,967 OFFLINE | the21gamer wrote:
Zucas wrote:
Alright here’s some review on the Loose Change video from the San Francisco Chronicle:
“It’s very true that some of the more specious conspiracy claims have been largely discredited and proved false. Some of the more radical 'evidence' gathered by theorists is quite suspect and easily placed in the category of no-way-in-hell. This is valid. You have to chew through a lot of skin and gristle to get to the real meat. But...it is quite impossible to watch the entire 'Loose Change' documentary and not come away just a little shaken, a little awed by the sheer number of perversely interrelated facts and aberrant coincidences-that-aren’t-coincidences."
— San Francisco Chronicle, 3/29/06
Reminds me of The Da’Vinci Code.
Also rememebr coincidences are very common in life, especially over a course as long as the government’s life.
I’ve run into people in San Francisco during summer and none of us planned to be there at all.
Coincidences definetly happen all the time but there’s times in our lives when we have to start deciding maybe that isn’t a coincidence. Especially when it’s non stop things that just keep coming in a row and you start to wonder can all of thse be conicidence. Is it a coincidence that one of the planes that hit the tower the box in there keeping all the info about the plane and the people aboard it that was supposed to survive crashes and intense heat was never recovered. Yet the passport of one of the supposed terrorists, which is made of paper, survived the crash and simply fell onto the streets of New York and mysteriously captured by the FBI. Is that a coincidence? ---

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| 15 Oct 2006 12:12 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 10  Joined: 10 Sep 2006 Posts: 4,411 OFFLINE | 68as4e8f4ase wrote:
There have been coverups in the past thats why. It has been an excuse to go to war. To gain control.
If this country is in debt so bad, then why the fuck would the Government come up with excuses to go to war? War just causes more debt. And war also comes at a higher price, People die, land is destroyed, and economies are ruined. Not to mention You aren’t guarenteed a win of the war. And if you lose you not only don’t gain control over that country but you might lose control over your own. People Kill Their Conspiracy theories as soon as they start up with bullshit like this.
And also Just to get the facts straight I’m not agianst war, I just don’t like it too much, If that makes sense. ---
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| 15 Oct 2006 12:14 am |
Agent of Chaos Rep: 54  Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 39,967 OFFLINE | Brutus Kicks Ass wrote:
68as4e8f4ase wrote:
There have been coverups in the past thats why. It has been an excuse to go to war. To gain control.
If this country is in debt so bad, then why the fuck would the Government come up with excuses to go to war? War just causes more debt. And war also comes at a higher price, People die, land is destroyed, and economies are ruined. Not to mention You aren’t guarenteed a win of the war. And if you lose you not only don’t gain control over that country but you might lose control over your own. People Kill Their Conspiracy theories as soon as they start up with bullshit like this.
And also Just to get the facts straight I’m not agianst war, I just don’t like it too much, If that makes sense.
Yet the control of oil is priceless and to keep that is more important than being in debt. The black gold indeed. ---

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| 15 Oct 2006 12:15 am |
King of the Gamer Army Rep: 38  Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 14,674 OFFLINE | Zucas wrote:
the21gamer wrote:
Zucas wrote:
Alright here’s some review on the Loose Change video from the San Francisco Chronicle:
“It’s very true that some of the more specious conspiracy claims have been largely discredited and proved false. Some of the more radical 'evidence' gathered by theorists is quite suspect and easily placed in the category of no-way-in-hell. This is valid. You have to chew through a lot of skin and gristle to get to the real meat. But...it is quite impossible to watch the entire 'Loose Change' documentary and not come away just a little shaken, a little awed by the sheer number of perversely interrelated facts and aberrant coincidences-that-aren’t-coincidences."
— San Francisco Chronicle, 3/29/06
Reminds me of The Da’Vinci Code.
Also rememebr coincidences are very common in life, especially over a course as long as the government’s life.
I’ve run into people in San Francisco during summer and none of us planned to be there at all.
Coincidences definetly happen all the time but there’s times in our lives when we have to start deciding maybe that isn’t a coincidence. Especially when it’s non stop things that just keep coming in a row and you start to wonder can all of thse be conicidence. Is it a coincidence that one of the planes that hit the tower the box in there keeping all the info about the plane and the people aboard it that was supposed to survive crashes and intense heat was never recovered. Yet the passport of one of the supposed terrorists, which is made of paper, survived the crash and simply fell onto the streets of New York and mysteriously captured by the FBI. Is that a coincidence?
Lots of paper flew out of the buildings and one to the streets. The problem is people weigh more and are bigger so they get stuck in their amongst explosions fire and what ever else there was.
If the Mexican army can burn the dead from the Alamo to dust I think a plane and building on fire with some explosions and a collapse can do the same. It’s not easy to put those fires out either.
Also, the plane is like a cylinder so it’s easy to cook everybody and come out in ashes. ---
 the21gamer wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
Did you hear me? I’m a bigger better pussy than you’ll ever be.
Wtf...
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| 15 Oct 2006 12:16 am |
King of the Gamer Army Rep: 38  Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 14,674 OFFLINE | Zucas wrote:
Brutus Kicks Ass wrote:
68as4e8f4ase wrote:
There have been coverups in the past thats why. It has been an excuse to go to war. To gain control.
If this country is in debt so bad, then why the fuck would the Government come up with excuses to go to war? War just causes more debt. And war also comes at a higher price, People die, land is destroyed, and economies are ruined. Not to mention You aren’t guarenteed a win of the war. And if you lose you not only don’t gain control over that country but you might lose control over your own. People Kill Their Conspiracy theories as soon as they start up with bullshit like this.
And also Just to get the facts straight I’m not agianst war, I just don’t like it too much, If that makes sense.
Yet the control of oil is priceless and to keep that is more important than being in debt. The black gold indeed.
Oil companies control the prices. The government doesn’t. ---
 the21gamer wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
Did you hear me? I’m a bigger better pussy than you’ll ever be.
Wtf...
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| 15 Oct 2006 12:17 am |
Agent of Chaos Rep: 54  Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 39,967 OFFLINE | 21- what does that have to do with a paper thin passport surviving 3000 degree F fire explosions and the boxes designed to go through those temperatures are destroyed. ---

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| 15 Oct 2006 12:18 am |
King of the Gamer Army Rep: 38  Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 14,674 OFFLINE | Zucas wrote:
21- what does that have to do with a paper thin passport surviving 3000 degree F fire explosions and the boxes designed to go through those temperatures are destroyed.
What does paper have to do with bodies turn to ashes?
The paper got out in time and was small enough to remain untouched. Things like that happen all the time when houses burn down. Things oddly enough survive. ---
 the21gamer wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
Did you hear me? I’m a bigger better pussy than you’ll ever be.
Wtf...
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| 15 Oct 2006 12:19 am |
The Diabolical One... Rep: 3  Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 5,320 OFFLINE | Zucas wrote:
Alright here’s some review on the Loose Change video from the San Francisco Chronicle:
“It’s very true that some of the more specious conspiracy claims have been largely discredited and proved false. Some of the more radical 'evidence' gathered by theorists is quite suspect and easily placed in the category of no-way-in-hell. This is valid. You have to chew through a lot of skin and gristle to get to the real meat. But...it is quite impossible to watch the entire 'Loose Change' documentary and not come away just a little shaken, a little awed by the sheer number of perversely interrelated facts and aberrant coincidences-that-aren’t-coincidences."
— San Francisco Chronicle, 3/29/06
Alright the gov. is not completely innocent they have done bad things in the past and ignored warnings before... but that does not mean that they killed 3000 Americans just to rally us for war.... I mean Bush has only lost from going to war... his approval ratings are in the 30’s and many people consider him to be one of the worst president’s of all time... and why would the gov. do any of this for money... Bush doesn’t need anymore and i doubt anyone who has a position in congress or on the cabinet is really dying for cash either... as for the oil yes going to Iraq for oil was one of the major reasons but Bush still could have pushed the US into war with Iraq even without 9/11... ---
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Someone with a comment that has thought to it? Blasphemy!
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| 15 Oct 2006 12:19 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 10  Joined: 10 Sep 2006 Posts: 4,411 OFFLINE | Zucas wrote:
Yet the control of oil is priceless and to keep that is more important than being in debt. The black gold indeed.
Hey I’m not going to deny the fact that this country is borderline dependant on Oil, But I also Know that we did not go to war with the middle east because of oil. And If the prices of oil reflet the war in iraq how come gas prices have declined so drasticly in a little over a year? Supply and demand my friend. Not because of the war in iraq. ---
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| 15 Oct 2006 12:20 am |
Agent of Chaos Rep: 54  Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 39,967 OFFLINE | Brutus Kicks Ass wrote:
Zucas wrote:
Yet the control of oil is priceless and to keep that is more important than being in debt. The black gold indeed.
Hey I’m not going to deny the fact that this country is borderline dependant on Oil, But I also Know that we did not go to war with the middle east because of oil. And If the prices of oil reflet the war in iraq how come gas prices have declined so drasticly in a little over a year? Supply and demand my friend. Not because of the war in iraq.
So why are we in Iraq and Afghanistan. To fight terrorism? To help those poor people in the Middle East? To take out evil dictators that would destory so many innocent people? What is America’s purpose over there. ---

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| 15 Oct 2006 12:21 am |
King of the Gamer Army Rep: 38  Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 14,674 OFFLINE | Zucas wrote:
Brutus Kicks Ass wrote:
Zucas wrote:
Yet the control of oil is priceless and to keep that is more important than being in debt. The black gold indeed.
Hey I’m not going to deny the fact that this country is borderline dependant on Oil, But I also Know that we did not go to war with the middle east because of oil. And If the prices of oil reflet the war in iraq how come gas prices have declined so drasticly in a little over a year? Supply and demand my friend. Not because of the war in iraq.
So why are we in Iraq and Afghanistan. To fight terrorism? To help those poor people in the Middle East? To take out evil dictators that would destory so many innocent people? What is America’s purpose over there.
Revenge and to keep terrorists from growing. ---
 the21gamer wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
Did you hear me? I’m a bigger better pussy than you’ll ever be.
Wtf...
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| 15 Oct 2006 12:21 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 10  Joined: 10 Sep 2006 Posts: 4,411 OFFLINE | Zucas wrote:
So why are we in Iraq and Afghanistan. To fight terrorism? To help those poor people in the Middle East? To take out evil dictators that would destory so many innocent people? What is America’s purpose over there?
How about all of the above? ---
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