Totalitus wrote:
-MC couldn’t avoid the screw attack.
Seeing how the screw attack has a relatively small range of attack, I don’t see MC dodging it as a problem.
Totalitus wrote:
-none of those things are breaking the sheilds in a single shot.
Prove it. Oh wait you can’t since it’s shown to do it countless times.
Totalitus wrote:
-oversheilds would barely protect him from a missle, if at all.
Wrong. Overshields are multiple layers of energy sheilds and it’s quite hard to get through; if not, nearly impossible.
Totalitus wrote:
-invisibility is not an issue for samus: thermal and dark visors.
Alright. MC can sense wherever Samus is, and has a faster reaction time.
Totalitus wrote:
-not gonna help him dodge 5 missles comming at him from all directions.
Isn’t getting through his shields. I don’t think anything is going to help Samus against super-charged homing plasma shots that deplete energy shields in one hit.
Sparten actully you are wrong about the Plasma Pistol sure it is powerful but you forget somthing, the charged shot is not fully homing, it has limited homing power so every charge shot is not a direct hit not a fully powerful one ethier, While I have played Halo not as much as Metroid Prime I know enough about the Plasma Pistol I have Played online and i have been shot by the charged shot a lot and it has not always taken out my shields fully, both in single and multiplayer. You also forget another thing, Smaus has no shields but rather layers of suit viatlity and it would not be totally drained in one hit, it depends on the armor she has, if it is just the power suit damage is reduced by 15%, Varia suit damage is reduced by 25% plus she gets resistance to exterme heat and cold. The Gravity suit or Dark suit reduces damage by 35% sometimes 40% and grants her full mobiliy in water. The Phazon Suit, Light Suit, and Power Fusion Suit all grant a full protection of 40%-45% so no matter what armor Samus wears it is not a instant kill and it also depends on how many engery tanks samus has, Samus has been beaten down by a moster plant with sycthes for hands with just her power suit and the max damage she took from even that was only 60 at max, the creture was strong enough to kill anything in one hit but Samus’s armor was at its weakest and it still was able to protect her enough. Even her most basic armor lets her last even long times then any standard issue armor. Plus who said Samus was invisable? Samus can find anyone who is invisable or thermally clocked. Plus if MC was invisible how could he now were samus was even if they were far apart? He has no speical senses nither does Samus but if Samus was invisable MC would not know where to look because first off samus can get to any surrounding area faster then MC because she has the Speed Boster and Morphball, MC can only run at a limited speed plus MC’s visor cannot se though walls so in an aerna with many walls MC would not know where Samus was but since Samus has the Dark visor it lets her see any clocked foes even though walls so there is no hiding from her when she has this visor on, Samus has even been able to track down ghosts with the X-Ray visor so even those naturally invisible cannot hide from her, and thermal cloaking would be useless as well, think hard about this Samus is an Ace bounty Hunter who always get the job done so nothing can hide from her she always tracks down her foes and always finishes them off.ou said missles cannot get though MC’s sheilds? Dude missles have been fired at him countless times and he has fully lost his shields from them, other people have hit him with the rocket launcher and he has come close to death, one missle from Samus’s arm cannon is equal to that of one shot from the battle rifle, the missles are weaker but much faster and are mainly used against enemy infantry but they can also work well against enemy vechiles too and they Do have homing features manily when it is a super missle and hardly anything lives after being hit with a super missle. Even hevaly armored vechiles are vulnerable to super missles it would take a few hits to take a tank out with super missles but it would be much faster then using a rocket launcher.
Note that Master cheif is not godlike nor is his armor so that means like Samus his Armor is vulnerable to even the most basic weaponary that can cause damage so no it is not invicnable do not even try to compare MC or Samus to gods thy are only humans, ace heros in Combat but only humans.
Totalitus wrote:
-MC couldn’t avoid the screw attack.
Seeing how the screw attack has a relatively small range of attack, I don’t see MC dodging it as a problem.
Totalitus wrote:
-none of those things are breaking the sheilds in a single shot.
Prove it. Oh wait you can’t since it’s shown to do it countless times.
Totalitus wrote:
-oversheilds would barely protect him from a missle, if at all.
Wrong. Overshields are multiple layers of energy sheilds and it’s quite hard to get through; if not, nearly impossible.
Totalitus wrote:
-invisibility is not an issue for samus: thermal and dark visors.
Alright. MC can sense wherever Samus is, and has a faster reaction time.
Totalitus wrote:
-not gonna help him dodge 5 missles comming at him from all directions.
Isn’t getting through his shields. I don’t think anything is going to help Samus against super-charged homing plasma shots that deplete energy shields in one hit.
-She can run up to him and jump. Or simply run through him(speed booster)
-yes it is shown countless times...on MC’s sheilds. Samus' sheilds are vastly superior.
-rockets get through quite easily. Samus has plesnty of those, all homing.
-He can’t sense where she is. He has a motion sensor that can detect motion within 15 meters. Samus has a far superior radar, which detects things regardless of motion.
Samus has had Chozo blood transfusions, increasing her physical and mental capabilites beyond that of a normal human. Reaction time falls under that category. How fast it is I do not know, but it is definetly faster than normal.
-methinks they would, espically considering how easily a rocket kills him. And a plasma pistol would not deplete her sheilds. If a matter-antimatter blast from the Quadraxis doesn’t kill her, a simple blob of plasma isn’t gonna have a chance.
Totalitus wrote:
-MC couldn’t avoid the screw attack.
Seeing how the screw attack has a relatively small range of attack, I don’t see MC dodging it as a problem.
Totalitus wrote:
-none of those things are breaking the sheilds in a single shot.
Prove it. Oh wait you can’t since it’s shown to do it countless times.
Totalitus wrote:
-oversheilds would barely protect him from a missle, if at all.
Wrong. Overshields are multiple layers of energy sheilds and it’s quite hard to get through; if not, nearly impossible.
Totalitus wrote:
-invisibility is not an issue for samus: thermal and dark visors.
Alright. MC can sense wherever Samus is, and has a faster reaction time.
Totalitus wrote:
-not gonna help him dodge 5 missles comming at him from all directions.
Isn’t getting through his shields. I don’t think anything is going to help Samus against super-charged homing plasma shots that deplete energy shields in one hit.
-She can run up to him and jump. Or simply run through him(speed booster)
-yes it is shown countless times...on MC’s sheilds. Samus' sheilds are vastly superior.
-rockets get through quite easily. Samus has plesnty of those, all homing.
-He can’t sense where she is. He has a motion sensor that can detect motion within 15 meters. Samus has a far superior radar, which detects things regardless of motion.
Samus has had Chozo blood transfusions increasing her physical and mental capabilites beyond that of a normal human. Reaction time falls under that category. How fast it is I do not know, but it is definetly faster than normal.
-methinks they would, espically considering how easily a rocket kills him. And a plasma pistol would not deplete her sheilds. If a matter-antimatter blast from the Quadraxis doesn’t kill her, a simple blob of plasma isn’t gonna have a chance.
How the Hell would that work, her body would reject the blood and she would die in minutes.
--- I by the power of Truth, while living, have conquered the Universe
I do love Samus, but I can admit that Master Chief is not going to be demolished by her.
Both are super human, as Samus has exceptional strength, agility, and sense outside of her suit, then she has the suit to magnify those. MC’s enhancements are probably, however, more potent, but his suit doesn’t have the functionality that the Power Suit does. Also, I don’t know about Master Chief (someone could tell me), but Samus can survive harsher conditions due to the Chozo and Metroid in her body.
Samus has an advantage in Phazon weaponry, which would seep through MC’s armor (its seeps through everything) and give him heavy psychological ramifications.
Samus has a faster arsenal. She can bombard MC with stacked weapons, such as the Plasma, Wave, and Ice beams all stacked into one, which makes a fast and massive blast wave. Not to say MC can’t dodge it, but a fast volley would be difficult.
Samus is faster overall, due to her enhanced agility and the Morph Ball and Morph Ball Boost.
Samus' armor is stronger, well, its shields anyway. MC loses all shield with a sniper shot or some bullets (if he has Overshield, he can take a lot), but Samus can take many bullets and high powered sniper beams and still have shields leftover.
While Samus has a faster arsenal, MC has a more varied. Sniper Rifles, Plasma Pistols, Spike/Plasma/Frag grenades, Rockets, and many more. The Plasma Sword alone would give Samus a hard time up close, but, she could just go Morph Ball and trap him in a Power Bomb, or blast over him with a Screw Attack.
Honestly, I do believe Samus has the advantage, because her suit is extremely versatile. Its capabilities are so great that she could dodge almost anything. Her weapons may be few, but they’re beasts, especially the Annihilator, which shoots as fast as the Power Beam, but is faster and homes in on targets. I go Samus.
Totalitus wrote:
-MC couldn’t avoid the screw attack.
Seeing how the screw attack has a relatively small range of attack, I don’t see MC dodging it as a problem.
Totalitus wrote:
-none of those things are breaking the sheilds in a single shot.
Prove it. Oh wait you can’t since it’s shown to do it countless times.
Totalitus wrote:
-oversheilds would barely protect him from a missle, if at all.
Wrong. Overshields are multiple layers of energy sheilds and it’s quite hard to get through; if not, nearly impossible.
Totalitus wrote:
-invisibility is not an issue for samus: thermal and dark visors.
Alright. MC can sense wherever Samus is, and has a faster reaction time.
Totalitus wrote:
-not gonna help him dodge 5 missles comming at him from all directions.
Isn’t getting through his shields. I don’t think anything is going to help Samus against super-charged homing plasma shots that deplete energy shields in one hit.
-She can run up to him and jump. Or simply run through him(speed booster)
-yes it is shown countless times...on MC’s sheilds. Samus' sheilds are vastly superior.
-rockets get through quite easily. Samus has plesnty of those, all homing.
-He can’t sense where she is. He has a motion sensor that can detect motion within 15 meters. Samus has a far superior radar, which detects things regardless of motion.
Samus has had Chozo blood transfusions increasing her physical and mental capabilites beyond that of a normal human. Reaction time falls under that category. How fast it is I do not know, but it is definetly faster than normal.
-methinks they would, espically considering how easily a rocket kills him. And a plasma pistol would not deplete her sheilds. If a matter-antimatter blast from the Quadraxis doesn’t kill her, a simple blob of plasma isn’t gonna have a chance.
How the Hell would that work, her body would reject the blood and she would die in minutes.
The Chozo are very advanced. Very very advanced. Most advanced race in the universe and so advanced it was impossible to advance and further. Let’s just leave it at that.
NEREVAR117 wrote:
I think overall Samus would win, but given certain conditions i think MC can win also.
Anyone agree?
Nope, simply because MC doesn’t have anything strong enough to do any real damage to her...other than the missile launcher which would be slightly more powerful than Samus' missiles(25 points of damage per rocket) but he doesn’t have enough...only enough to get rid of 2 oh her 24 energy tanks, and that’s only if they all hit her.
NEREVAR117 wrote:
It doesn’t matter how advanced they are, her body would reject the blood naturally.
Unless they found a way to control every cell in her body....
It does matter how advanced they are. Its such advancements that allow them to do things that we can’t right now. The Chozo dabble in bio-engineering, they made the Metroids after all, to wipe out the X-Parasites.
Also, its fiction. Trying to disprove it is retarded.
You guys really want to know how Samus got the Chozo Blood and how everything else happend to her? Well there is a metroid Manga that can tell you everything from the raid on her home of K2-L, how she lost her parents, what the chozo did with her, and who really created mother brain.
First here is what you should know as the main back story to the series.
In the year 2003 C.C. (Cosmic Calendar) the leaders of various planets united in order to form a congress that became known as the Galactic Federation in an attempt to construct a fair and structured universe that would enable society to grow and prosper. Under the guidance of this new federation, the individuals of the planets began to associate with each other and a new civilization began to develop. Various leaps in technology for transportation were created, such as interstellar spaceships, and society flourished through the use of such expansion.
Note: According to Metroid and Metroid II: Return of Samus’s manuals, the year of the Galactic Federation formation was the year 2000.[1][2] In Metroid Zero Mission’s manual, the year of the Galactic Federation formation was 2003,[3] retconning what was stated in the Metroid and Metroid II manuals.
At this time, Earth came into contact with individuals from these other worlds and the advanced technology that these people possessed was shared with the humans of Earth. All seemed well in this new society. However, devious groups known as “Space Pirates” began to attack the spaceships in the hopes of looting valuable goods from them and to strike fear in the hearts of the people. In order to counter these attacks, the Federal Bureau set up a new combat force known as the Federal Police. Yet the pirates were extremely difficult to battle in the depths of space, even with the advanced technology of the Federation. Thus, they recruited a group of courageous individuals who became known as “Space Hunters”, equipped with the best weapons available. The Federation provided huge financial bonuses to the Hunters in reward for hunting down and destroying the pirates.
It is now the year 20X5 C.C., and the universe has continued to develop while battles still rage throughout space. Recently, reports have indicated that a spaceship is traveling with a capsule containing an unknown life-force from the deserted planet of SR388. This planet has been attacked and seized by the Space Pirates. While research about this life-form, currently in hibernation, is incomplete, it is known that exposure to beta rays for 24-hours will cause it to multiply. Some scientists believe that this life-form may have been the cause of destruction of life on SR388. Scientists decide to call this being a “Metroid” and the mere thought of it being in the hands of pirates is utterly disturbing. If the pirates learn how to multiply it and use it as a weapon, the cost of lives could be overwhelming. The Federation launched search teams to find the pirates and were fortunate to discover that their base was located deep within the planet Zebes. However, none of the forces are strong enough to take the pirates down.
During this outside battle, operations to multiply the Metroid within the Space Pirates' headquarters were soon becoming a reality. Desperate for a solution, the federation decided that the only option left was to attempt to infiltrate Zebes and destroy the leader of the Space Pirates, “Mother Brain." To make matters difficult, the structure of the planet Zebes is a natural fortress that consists of a large maze. Scattered throughout the maze are various traps and allies of the Space Pirates. This mission clearly requires a special individual to complete, and so the federation has selected the most dominating Space Hunter of the entire organization. This space bounty hunter is known as “Samus Aran”.
Samus, though human, has a cybernetic suit, thus providing her with an uncanny amount of power. She has, to this date, completed many missions considered impossible, and her suit has the power to withstand lethal attacks, while providing many itself. Samus makes her way through the fortress-planet Zebes, collecting weapon and health upgrades, advancing to new areas, defeating Kraid, Ridley, and Mother Brain, and, in the end, destroys all Metroids on Zebes
Now go here to take a look at Samus’s past:
http://www.mechadrake.com/metroidmanga.html
That should clear things up if you notice carefully The GF actully made Space Hunters similar to how the Earth Defenses in Halo made the Spartens.
I would just like to make it clear that MC does not have a faster reaction time than Samus.
Normal human reaction time: 195 milliseconds
MC’s reaction time: 15 milliseconds
Samus’s reaction time: less than 15 milliseconds
Why? Samus has been infused with the Chozo race, through blood. The only way this was possible was to combine Chozo DNA with hers. Genetics say that it will combine and not have any negatives effects, since the DNA would only take the best of both sets. Birds, normal birds, have an instinctual reaction time of 15 milliseconds. The Chozo were telepathic, and being this adept would give them a faster reaction time as they are a more advanced race. Cybernetics also play a role, the cybernetics enhanced everything, sight, strength, reaction time, ect, and linked with her suit would allow those affects to be amplified even further.
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