clap clap well done just one question what makes you belive that there weaker than there counter parts???
for all we no there twice as strong, and an alternate makes no differance to Sora he nailed one Cloud and Sephiroth he will Nail the others.
still i hold true that both pairs of Cloud and Sephiroth hold the same level of skill and materia dousent affect strenth and speed it just grants the user another ability.
Dark Kie wrote:
clap clap well done just one question what makes you belive that there weaker than there counter parts???
Okay you must be blind or high.I posted all kinds of shit proving that there weaker.
Dark Kie wrote:
for all we no there twice as strong, and an alternate makes no differance to Sora he nailed one Cloud and Sephiroth he will Nail the others.
Okay this shows you don’t know alot about alternate reality differences.Since I’ve already explained how Cloud and Sephiroth are weaker let me use another example.Superman and Batman met a future alternate reality Superman.Bats thought he could beat him but this Superman was faster,stronger, and had no problem killing so Bats lost to him.
Dark Kie wrote:
still i hold true that both pairs of Cloud and Sephiroth hold the same level of skill and materia dousent affect strenth and speed it just grants the user another ability.
1. in a normal battle Counter Materia is useless as its not a game and the enemy dousent just stand there bone idle, it would just be a regular fight were cloud trys to counter Soras moves.
2.Speed Magic HP plus ok that would help boost his speed Magic and HP but as seen so can Sora and not just to a cirtain extent with each new form he gets stronger and faster and more MP so Final Form Sora would still Blitz him with a slight speed boost due to the fact he can blitz them in normal (he will always be superior on each level).
^that is pretty mutch the same on all the other accounts apart from one Cloud has no strenth boost still leaving the advantage in Soras and Rikus Favour.
plus without Materia we have seen that there skill is also not as good as Sora and Rikus so Advantage gos to the new kids on the block.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRYRfOnCIXY
how easy Sora nails the unproven weaker vershions, (important things to no Sora can use Reflectaga and still fight a move that renders all magic immune and returns it on the user, and Beserk Limet Break an undodgeable combo).
Dark Kie wrote:
1. in a normal battle Counter Materia is useless as its not a game and the enemy dousent just stand there bone idle, it would just be a regular fight were cloud trys to counter Soras moves.
Well duh in a normal battle Sora wouldn’t even be able to hit Cloud.
Dark Kie wrote:
2.Speed Magic HP plus ok that would help boost his speed Magic and HP but as seen so can Sora and not just to a cirtain extent with each new form he gets stronger and faster and more MP so Final Form Sora would still Blitz him with a slight speed boost due to the fact he can blitz them in normal (he will always be superior on each level).
WTF! How many times have we been through this?They were weakned.Also Sora can’t transform without Donald and Goofy as revealed in the last battle.
Dark Kie wrote:
^that is pretty mutch the same on all the other accounts apart from one Cloud has no strenth boost still leaving the advantage in Soras and Rikus Favour.
Sign theres just no getting to you.I guess Sephiroth just stands there while they attack Cloud huh?
Dark Kie wrote:
plus without Materia we have seen that there skill is also not as good as Sora and Rikus so Advantage gos to the new kids on the block.
Yeah we didn’t watch the same AC.
Dark Kie wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRYRfOnCIXY
how easy Sora nails the unproven weaker vershions, (important things to no Sora can use Reflectaga and still fight a move that renders all magic immune and returns it on the user, and Beserk Limet Break an undodgeable combo).
LOL.I’d like to see Sora return Ultima or beat Sephiroth when he uses Super Nova.
simple uses Stopra on Sephiroth and abliterates him, then its game over for Cloud as Sora and Riku are a perfect team.
it is true that Sora and Riku have trained together so they also have the benafit of being a better team expechioly as KeyBlade masters.
Reflectaga would work on all forms of Magic.
and i take it you dident see them just get owned (the alternate virshions may not have Materia but that dousent mean to say they arnt every bit as skilled without it).
Sora kicked all four of there asses without breaking a sweat that is skill my freind, and all four of them together would be more powerful than solo Cloud if you get my drift.
then theres Riku who single handedly fought Roxas and the leader of Organization 13 hes one bad as dude and second to none against Sora.
Dark Kie wrote:
simple uses Stopra on Sephiroth and abliterates him, then its game over for Cloud as Sora and Riku are a perfect team.
Uh yeah thats why it works on all guys that are boss level.OH wait...Besides Cloud and Sephiroth can both slow them down.
Dark Kie wrote:
it is true that Sora and Riku have trained together so they also have the benafit of being a better team expechioly as KeyBlade masters.
And?Sephiroth is the best in Solider and Cloud has pretty much surpassed Zack who is just below Sephiroth.
Dark Kie wrote:
Reflectaga would work on all forms of Magic.
Seeing as you made the claim,PROVE IT!
Dark Kie wrote:
and i take it you dident see them just get owned (the alternate virshions may not have Materia but that dousent mean to say they arnt every bit as skilled without it).
Rewatch Advent Children then watch that video.They are much weaker.
Dark Kie wrote:
Sora kicked all four of there asses without breaking a sweat that is skill my freind, and all four of them together would be more powerful than solo Cloud if you get my drift.
Okay now your really just talking out of your ass.More powerful than KH Cloud yes.FF7 Cloud with all his materia hell no.
Dark Kie wrote:
then theres Riku who single handedly fought Roxas and the leader of Organization 13 hes one bad as dude and second to none against Sora.
Yeah thats why Sora and Riku had to gain up on Xemnas.Replay KH and KH2.
Dark Kie wrote:
there is no sutch thing in a real fight as boss level, so it would work and there attempt to slowdaga them would reflectaga right back at them.
Yeah so Sora gets special privelages to overide their reflect now? Shut quit.
Dark Kie wrote:
and solider are what ohh yeah that invisable militery that we only see Zack and Seph from know one else.
So just because we only see two people that means they suck?Really just get lost.
Dark Kie wrote:
Reflectaga is short for God Mode it allows the user to become immune to all form of attack for a good while,
Taken from the strategy guide.
Reflect/reflera,reflega is a spell that is pure defense.It casts a reflective shield completely around Sora for a BRIEF moment,reflecting any attacks used against Sora back toward the attacker.This is best used against projectile-throwing foes that are just out of range.
Sora can’t cast it forever.
Dark Kie wrote:
if you dont belive me the people here will tell you all you need to know.
nope you guys plainly prove with your shut ups and your give ups that you dont like the truth, that Sora and Riku are formidable opponents with the skill and ability to defeat them.
now Cloud and Sephiroth are good but the main reson they get so mutch backing is there popularity, nothing more its completely fan based.
it would be the other way around if KH was made before hand.
Sora is potentioly the strongest Squeare Enix has to offer he owns everyone and everything in KH 1 KHCOM and KH2 with little effort, and the Keyblade is considered the ultimate Weapon.
he beats wariors from multiple worlds in a mutch lager scale (way more bosses and opponents) than the FF series.
and has beat FF charicters (were not with there complete powers there pysical powers were still the same)in a fair fight sometimes out numbered, it is plain to see he has skill well beyond his years and if there is sutch a thing as KH3 he should continue to grow in strenth.
Soras Magics are impessive and are equil or in some instences superior to other FF games (reflectaga, gravityaga slowyaga).
in his world Sora and Riku are the shit.
in there world Cloud and Sephiroth are the best, however the multiples in KH2 are taken of the AC virchions and are just as skilled this leeds me to belive that even with Materia they would not win against Sora and Riku.
in the end youve got Four badasses going toe to toe either way none of them are going down without a fight!
Dark Kie wrote:
nope you guys plainly prove with your shut ups and your give ups that you dont like the truth, that Sora and Riku are formidable opponents with the skill and ability to defeat them.
No I’m telling you to shut up because your making up bullshit.
Dark Kie wrote:
now Cloud and Sephiroth are good but the main reson they get so mutch backing is there popularity, nothing more its completely fan based.
Oh great so now were attacking there popularity. Whats next?
Dark Kie wrote:
it would be the other way around if KH was made before hand.
Prove it.
Dark Kie wrote:
Sora is potentioly the strongest Squeare Enix has to offer he owns everyone and everything in KH 1 KHCOM and KH2 with little effort, and the Keyblade is considered the ultimate Weapon.
The keyblade is the ultimate weapon in the KH verse. Sora owned weakened KH characters and Sora would lose horrible to ID.
Dark Kie wrote:
he beats wariors from multiple worlds in a mutch lager scale (way more bosses and opponents) than the FF series.
You think numbers matter?If thats the case Cloud should own since he’s been in FF7 the game,Advent Children,FF Tactics,Ehergiz and more.
Dark Kie wrote:
and has beat FF charicters (were not with there complete powers there pysical powers were still the same)in a fair fight sometimes out numbered, it is plain to see he has skill well beyond his years and if there is sutch a thing as KH3 he should continue to grow in strenth.
No he beat them without all their powers and weaker physical prowess.
Dark Kie wrote:
Soras Magics are impessive and are equil or in some instences superior to other FF games (reflectaga, gravityaga slowyaga).
Have you seen demi or flare or ultima?
Dark Kie wrote:
in his world Sora and Riku are the shit.
Yeah in his wordl
Dark Kie wrote:
in there world Cloud and Sephiroth are the best, however the multiples in KH2 are taken of the AC virchions and are just as skilled this leeds me to belive that even with Materia they would not win against Sora and Riku.
WTF?There not the fucking same.
Dark Kie wrote:
in the end youve got Four badasses going toe to toe either way none of them are going down without a fight!
And the winners are Cloud and Sephiroth.
Dark Kie wrote:
but potentioly Sora and Riku are taking them down
well look who cant take it lol Seph alternate is every bit as Roth as the other lol he has his own set of spcls witch for this Seph are his best moves.
i have to say Manny you are a funny one you prove that there alternates fair enuff (very close in the way they look act talk and fight)but lets face it there is no evidence that without or even with Materia these guys are any weaker, (now your gonna say “its obviouse cus it just is, look at my threads ive proved it...somewere you cant see and now im gonna call you an idiot a few times to look better yeah im great” is that anywere close???
i think with Materia they stand a better chance but not all would work properly in real time, and pysicaly there the same (unless they happen to have there Materia set up with MP plus and so forth)whitch is a waste as Sora has all that to.
Sora can become invincible for short while can freeze them in time and basically woop the ever loving shit out of them.
Sora and Riku were made superior they have natural skill with there weapons far beyond there time and years (they have become master swordsman in two years).
how long did it take the other two???
Cloud and Sephiroth have been outclassed by newer superior models, they have become out dated and have been replaced by people potentioly superior.
so Sora and Riku would own those retro old farts anyday of the week.
how easy was sephiroth to beat now think KH mutch more challengeing and far more in terms of game play.
Sora and Riku were born to own and own they have and own they will.
you wanna talk about proof Sora has kicked Seph and Cloud down in the dirt already weather or not you can prove there skill is inferior or the normal powers are different, that dosent change the fact Cloud has never NEVER beat Sora so Cloud has no room to speak about how easy it would be were as Sora has a relative idea.
now go ahead Manny cry like you always do tell me WTF and have you been reading (YES) and im an asshole and you hate me, and prove this and prove that and i wont prove a thing but thats ok lalala wawawa twist my words to suit your own sort of thing.
Dark Kie wrote:
well look who cant take it lol Seph alternate is every bit as Roth as the other lol he has his own set of spcls witch for this Seph are his best moves.
KH Sephiroth is nothing compared to FF7 Sephiroth,FF has way better skills.
Dark Kie wrote:
i have to say Manny you are a funny one you prove that there alternates fair enuff (very close in the way they look act talk and fight)but lets face it there is no evidence that without or even with Materia these guys are any weaker, (now your gonna say “its obviouse cus it just is, look at my threads ive proved it...somewere you cant see and now im gonna call you an idiot a few times to look better yeah im great” is that anywere close???
LOL you haven’t proved a damn thing. Neither Cloud,Tifa,Yuffie,or Sephiroth showed the speed or power in KH that they did in AC you can keep saying they did but they didn’t.
Dark Kie wrote:
i think with Materia they stand a better chance but not all would work properly in real time, and pysicaly there the same (unless they happen to have there Materia set up with MP plus and so forth)whitch is a waste as Sora has all that to.
Or the materia that increases their speed.
Dark Kie wrote:
Sora can become invincible for short while can freeze them in time and basically woop the ever loving shit out of them.
So now Sora can freeze all of time? Sephiroth kills Sora with Pale horse and Heartless angel.
Dark Kie wrote:
Sora and Riku were made superior they have natural skill with there weapons far beyond there time and years (they have become master swordsman in two years).
You think Cloud had 17 years of training or something? Cloud didn’t have all that many years either and it takes a hell of a lot of training and skill to be able to lift and move a sword the size of the Buster Sword the way Cloud can. As for Sephiroth he’s got more battle experience then both these yougins.
Dark Kie wrote:
how long did it take the other two???
Look above.
Dark Kie wrote:
Cloud and Sephiroth have been outclassed by newer superior models, they have become out dated and have been replaced by people potentioly superior.
Yeah whatever.You see its guys like you that give KH such a bad reputation on this site. Do you realize that with age comes experience?
Dark Kie wrote:
so Sora and Riku would own those retro old farts anyday of the week.
Okay now your just being a fanboy.
Dark Kie wrote:
how easy was sephiroth to beat now think KH mutch more challengeing and far more in terms of game play.
I can tell you didn’t read any of Cids info.What you fight in FF7 isn’t the real Sephiroth. The real Sephiroth is only seen a few times throughout the whole game.
Dark Kie wrote:
Sora and Riku were born to own and own they have and own they will.
No wonder they hate KH on this site.
Dark Kie wrote:
you wanna talk about proof Sora has kicked Seph and Cloud down in the dirt already weather or not you can prove there skill is inferior or the normal powers are different, that dosent change the fact Cloud has never NEVER beat Sora so Cloud has no room to speak about how easy it would be were as Sora has a relative idea.
So just because Sora beat a weaker version of Cloud he can beat the orignal.Your pathetic.
Dark Kie wrote:
now go ahead Manny cry like you always do tell me WTF and have you been reading (YES) and im an asshole and you hate me, and prove this and prove that and i wont prove a thing but thats ok lalala wawawa twist my words to suit your own sort of thing.
CRY? I’m not you okay. I can tell you haven’t been reading because this is still going on. If you have god help you.
You seem to think Sora and Riku are Squares best huh? Id at the end of the game with vs Sora(Final Form),Riku,Kairi,and King Mickey. I know what your going to say but ID ftw.
wow was it even worth you posting that Manny really, what a waste of space yes with age comes wisdom so take my advice kid go hyperventalate somewere else other than that imaginary place were everything suits you just fine.
how about you stop humping the leg of those out of date hasbins and open your fuckin eyes just cus something isnt liked as mutch as another dousent mean it cant beat it.
WOOOOOOOOOOO you make me laugh me a KH fan boy no youve figured me all wrong mate Soras a pussy assed mommas boy like you and Riku hmph reminds me of sephiroth to mutch what a woman.
i just vote Sora cus its obviouse the kid always has to win, Sephiroth and Cloud just wont get on and Riku and Sora will do some major Emo shit to win its prodictable bollocks like the shit you tell yourself to make you think your opinions count lol your a joke who plays it safe all the time always with the moral majority never steping into the red Zone do me a favor grow a pair pal like Dark S!
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