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20 Jan 2007 03:18 pm
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the21gamer wrote:
Atresac wrote: Yeah, but since the nazi’s used Jew as an insult, does that mean that long after its use as an insult it is still used as one? No.

Same thing with Jap. It was used as an insult, but now it has lost that meaning to all except super-sensitive people like yourself.

You can’t provide any good reason as to why one can use Jew and not Jap without having a bullshit double-standard.


Did you understand anything I said?

The word jap did not come into existance until WWII for the sole purpose of propaganda, demonization, and insulting the Japanese.

It NEVER came into existence just to shorten like you claim.

Your 'evidence' is weak.


But you just said shortening the name could be a factor.
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20 Jan 2007 03:18 pm
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My god you are so dense...

I KNOW IT WAS NOT MADE TO SHORTEN IT.

The fact is, that was then, and this is now. It was made for propoganda, but now it is not used as an offensive term and is used in the same context as Jew.
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20 Jan 2007 03:20 pm
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SA-X wrote:
the21gamer wrote:
Atresac wrote: Yeah, but since the nazi’s used Jew as an insult, does that mean that long after its use as an insult it is still used as one? No.

Same thing with Jap. It was used as an insult, but now it has lost that meaning to all except super-sensitive people like yourself.

You can’t provide any good reason as to why one can use Jew and not Jap without having a bullshit double-standard.


Did you understand anything I said?

The word jap did not come into existance until WWII for the sole purpose of propaganda, demonization, and insulting the Japanese.

It NEVER came into existence just to shorten like you claim.

Your 'evidence' is weak.


But you just said shortening the name could be a factor.


A small factor but I also said just.

I do know for a fact it was for demonization of the Japanese.
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20 Jan 2007 03:21 pm
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the21gamer wrote:
SA-X wrote:
the21gamer wrote:
Atresac wrote: Yeah, but since the nazi’s used Jew as an insult, does that mean that long after its use as an insult it is still used as one? No.

Same thing with Jap. It was used as an insult, but now it has lost that meaning to all except super-sensitive people like yourself.

You can’t provide any good reason as to why one can use Jew and not Jap without having a bullshit double-standard.


Did you understand anything I said?

The word jap did not come into existance until WWII for the sole purpose of propaganda, demonization, and insulting the Japanese.

It NEVER came into existence just to shorten like you claim.

Your 'evidence' is weak.


But you just said shortening the name could be a factor.


A small factor but I also said just.

I do know for a fact it was for demonization of the Japanese.


And after that you said it was NEVER used to shorten.
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20 Jan 2007 03:23 pm
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Atresac wrote: My god you are so dense...

I KNOW IT WAS NOT MADE TO SHORTEN IT.

The fact is, that was then, and this is now. It was made for propoganda, but now it is not used as an offensive term and is used in the same context as Jew.


No it is not. Where the hell do you live? You must be living in some racist or over patriotic state because in California you get screwed over you use that word freely and you still ignore the fact that it is an insult in the UK and the majority of Japanese find it offensive. That means the meaning has never changed.

It is also pretty screwed up to take a racist word and use it as if there is no racism behind the words and claim the race is being 'over sensitive'
when it has a long history of racism behind it.
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20 Jan 2007 03:24 pm
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SA-X wrote:
the21gamer wrote:
SA-X wrote:
the21gamer wrote:
Atresac wrote: Yeah, but since the nazi’s used Jew as an insult, does that mean that long after its use as an insult it is still used as one? No.

Same thing with Jap. It was used as an insult, but now it has lost that meaning to all except super-sensitive people like yourself.

You can’t provide any good reason as to why one can use Jew and not Jap without having a bullshit double-standard.


Did you understand anything I said?

The word jap did not come into existance until WWII for the sole purpose of propaganda, demonization, and insulting the Japanese.

It NEVER came into existence just to shorten like you claim.

Your 'evidence' is weak.


But you just said shortening the name could be a factor.


A small factor but I also said just.

I do know for a fact it was for demonization of the Japanese.


And after that you said it was NEVER used to shorten.


I said “NEVER just."

That is way different from saying “NEVER."
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20 Jan 2007 03:25 pm
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I think using Jew to demonize the Jewish during the Haulocaust is a pretty big history.

And many jews could find the word jew offensive, but you don’t seem to give a damn about that.
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20 Jan 2007 03:26 pm
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Y’know, I just look at it where it’s racism if the person intends it to be racist...I mean if someone is asking someone else if they’re Japanese and use the term Jap instead of the full term (which is rare but could happen) then obv. they aren’t intending to cause harm to the other person...(and the racist example can be filled in appropriatly)
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20 Jan 2007 03:27 pm
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Atresac wrote: I think using Jew to demonize the Jewish during the Haulocaust is a pretty big history.

And many jews could find the word jew offensive, but you don’t seem to give a damn about that.


The word Jew existed before the holocaust and was not created as an offensive term but if a Jew does find it offensive because of the holocaust then I will obviously not use the word as if it didn’t mean anything.

If you give a damn about the word Jew why not jap?

Something’s screwed up if that’s the way you think.
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20 Jan 2007 03:28 pm
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The only time it is appropriate is in a joke and if it’s not offending anyone and being overused.
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20 Jan 2007 03:29 pm
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Read this if your stupid 2 wrote: ARE YOU GUYS SERIOUSLY THIS FUCKED UP!? I make a little joke as if you guys havent and you threaten to ban me and take it al seriously. You guys need to like calm the fuck down or something. Jap is not bad it isnt its like jew. When you see a jewish person you call them a jew witch is normal. same with Jap when you see a person from japan you call then Japs for short they dont care its not a insult. If you call them chink then yea its bad but not jap. Wikipedia can have articals about anything writen by anyone chances are some 50 year old jap who is the only person who finds that word a insult wrote that

wow, your suck ass joke making is almost as bad as your spelling. i mean, god, your retarded. what kind of a joke is that? if thats how your humor is, then you deserve to be banned for sharing it.
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20 Jan 2007 03:30 pm
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the21gamer wrote:
Atresac wrote: I think using Jew to demonize the Jewish during the Haulocaust is a pretty big history.

And many jews could find the word jew offensive, but you don’t seem to give a damn about that.


The word Jew existed before the holocaust and was not created as an offensive term but if a Jew does find it offensive because of the holocaust then I will obviously not use the word as if it didn’t mean anything.

If you give a damn about the word Jew why not jap?

Something’s screwed up if that’s the way you think.

I don’t give a damn about either word. I’m trying to show you that they are used in the same context but somehow you’re all righteous now because you are japanese and take offense to a word that lost its meaning a long time ago.
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20 Jan 2007 03:33 pm
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Atresac wrote:
the21gamer wrote:
Atresac wrote: I think using Jew to demonize the Jewish during the Haulocaust is a pretty big history.

And many jews could find the word jew offensive, but you don’t seem to give a damn about that.


The word Jew existed before the holocaust and was not created as an offensive term but if a Jew does find it offensive because of the holocaust then I will obviously not use the word as if it didn’t mean anything.

If you give a damn about the word Jew why not jap?

Something’s screwed up if that’s the way you think.

I don’t give a damn about either word. I’m trying to show you that they are used in the same context but somehow you’re all righteous now because you are japanese and take offense to a word that lost its meaning a long time ago.


And there you go again. You aren’t even Japanese.

That’s pretty fucked up using a racist term like that and then saying people that find it offense are all righteous and shit.

Amazing how 1 person says it’s ok while an entire race and a bunch of countries say it is not ok.

Also, I notice you used RTIYS2’s 'argument'. That’s pretty laughable.
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20 Jan 2007 03:37 pm
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the21gamer wrote:
Atresac wrote:
the21gamer wrote:
Atresac wrote: I think using Jew to demonize the Jewish during the Haulocaust is a pretty big history.

And many jews could find the word jew offensive, but you don’t seem to give a damn about that.


The word Jew existed before the holocaust and was not created as an offensive term but if a Jew does find it offensive because of the holocaust then I will obviously not use the word as if it didn’t mean anything.

If you give a damn about the word Jew why not jap?

Something’s screwed up if that’s the way you think.

I don’t give a damn about either word. I’m trying to show you that they are used in the same context but somehow you’re all righteous now because you are japanese and take offense to a word that lost its meaning a long time ago.


And there you go again. You aren’t even Japanese.

That’s pretty fucked up using a racist term like that and then saying people that find it offense are all righteous and shit.

Amazing how 1 person says it’s ok while an entire race and a bunch of countries say it is not ok.

Also, I notice you used RTIYS2’s 'argument'. That’s pretty laughable.


No, I’m saying you’re trying to be all righteous for your own race, when you completely ignore the fact that jap is used in the same context as jew.

If you’re trying to stop people from saying Jap, it would make sense to stop them from saying Jew, since Japanese people you claim get offended by Jap, and Jewish people get offended by Jew.
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20 Jan 2007 03:37 pm
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Atresac, obviously it insults him, therefore we should take it into concideration. If a person of Israeli heritage comes on here and said that using the term Jew was degrading to them, then I would refrain from saying the word, but until then there has been no problem with it. A word becomes racism when it hurts somebody, obviously it hurts 21 when you use it, so cut it out you racist pig.
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20 Jan 2007 03:38 pm
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derdev789 wrote: Atresac, obviously it insults him, therefore we should take it into concideration. If a person of Israeli heritage comes on here and said that using the term Jew was degrading to them, then I would refrain from saying the word, but until then there has been no problem with it. A word becomes racism when it hurts somebody, obviously it hurts 21 when you use it, so cut it out you racist pig.


Thank you.
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derdev789 wrote: Atresac, obviously it insults him, therefore we should take it into concideration. If a person of Israeli heritage comes on here and said that using the term Jew was degrading to them, then I would refrain from saying the word, but until then there has been no problem with it. A word becomes racism when it hurts somebody, obviously it hurts 21 when you use it, so cut it out you racist pig.


If 21 is offended by it then fine, but the fact is it’s not used as a racist slur anymore save for a small group of people who still think racism is ok. If it offends him I’d refrain from saying it around him, my argument is trying to not get the word banned as a whole.
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Atresac wrote:
the21gamer wrote:
Atresac wrote: I think using Jew to demonize the Jewish during the Haulocaust is a pretty big history.

And many jews could find the word jew offensive, but you don’t seem to give a damn about that.


The word Jew existed before the holocaust and was not created as an offensive term but if a Jew does find it offensive because of the holocaust then I will obviously not use the word as if it didn’t mean anything.

If you give a damn about the word Jew why not jap?

Something’s screwed up if that’s the way you think.

I don’t give a damn about either word. I’m trying to show you that they are used in the same context but somehow you’re all righteous now because you are japanese and take offense to a word that lost its meaning a long time ago.

words mean what people let them. if a word is racest, its not becouse of its origins or how its used, its how it is taken and what is ment by it. for example, the n word is probably derived from negro, which means 'black' in ceveral languages. there is nothing wrong with the word itself, yet it has been taken on by the majority of the population as one of the worst profanities out there. jap is a racist slur, you cannot argue that.
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20 Jan 2007 03:39 pm
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Atresac wrote:
the21gamer wrote:
Atresac wrote:
the21gamer wrote:
Atresac wrote: I think using Jew to demonize the Jewish during the Haulocaust is a pretty big history.

And many jews could find the word jew offensive, but you don’t seem to give a damn about that.


The word Jew existed before the holocaust and was not created as an offensive term but if a Jew does find it offensive because of the holocaust then I will obviously not use the word as if it didn’t mean anything.

If you give a damn about the word Jew why not jap?

Something’s screwed up if that’s the way you think.

I don’t give a damn about either word. I’m trying to show you that they are used in the same context but somehow you’re all righteous now because you are japanese and take offense to a word that lost its meaning a long time ago.


And there you go again. You aren’t even Japanese.

That’s pretty fucked up using a racist term like that and then saying people that find it offense are all righteous and shit.

Amazing how 1 person says it’s ok while an entire race and a bunch of countries say it is not ok.

Also, I notice you used RTIYS2’s 'argument'. That’s pretty laughable.


No, I’m saying you’re trying to be all righteous for your own race, when you completely ignore the fact that jap is used in the same context as jew.

If you’re trying to stop people from saying Jap, it would make sense to stop them from saying Jew, since Japanese people you claim get offended by Jap, and Jewish people get offended by Jew.


If the word Jew offended a Jew then I would stop using it. It’s as simple as that and you do know that most Jews are proud to be called Jews because it is not demeaning?
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kev360 wrote:
Atresac wrote:
the21gamer wrote:
Atresac wrote: I think using Jew to demonize the Jewish during the Haulocaust is a pretty big history.

And many jews could find the word jew offensive, but you don’t seem to give a damn about that.


The word Jew existed before the holocaust and was not created as an offensive term but if a Jew does find it offensive because of the holocaust then I will obviously not use the word as if it didn’t mean anything.

If you give a damn about the word Jew why not jap?

Something’s screwed up if that’s the way you think.

I don’t give a damn about either word. I’m trying to show you that they are used in the same context but somehow you’re all righteous now because you are japanese and take offense to a word that lost its meaning a long time ago.

words mean what people let them. if a word is racest, its not becouse of its origins or how its used, its how it is taken and what is ment by it. for example, the n word is probably derived from negro, which means 'black' in ceveral languages. there is nothing wrong with the word itself, yet it has been taken on by the majority of the population as one of the worst profanities out there. jap is a racist slur, you cannot argue that.


Jap was a racist slur and if people take offense to that it’s fine. But people get offended by the word Jew as well, yet that is a completely ok word to use.
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