| 22 Jan 2007 07:44 pm |
when you see it, you'll shit bricks Rep: 34  Joined: 10 Sep 2005 Posts: 15,652 ONLINE | Online Predator wrote:
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kev360 wrote:
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Oh my god let’s all be ignorant and arrogant. First of all those are shipments. Hell most of those consoles are either still in stores getting dusty or still on a ship coming to either America or Japan. And secondly it’s worldwide. 2 million worldwide. Not just Japan. Wii had shipped 4 million worldwide as of the end of 2006 and ever increasing. And you think 2 million shipped in a greater time period and not a sellout is showing up the Wii. Oh you showed me up just like the PSP showed up the DS.[sarcastic ownage]
Those are NOT shipments. Over 2 million have been sold as in over 2 million people have PS3s. Why is it that whenever something good happens for Sony Nintendo fans change the whole story around to make Nintendo look better?
The ratio for Wiis vs. PS3s sold is 2:1 so calm down Nintendo fans. You’re still winning wat least.
we might as well not try to reason with them. They dont take reason and fact anything that goes threw to them has to come in through a flame
Haven’t flamed.
Zucas didn’t either, just harsh objection. Unlike you who spewed curses at him and insulted him just because he disagreed.
Oh, and as for fact, I posted fact. From Sony themselves.
No see zucas did flame we just flamed him back like he wanted. And we gave you fact and you didnt take it witch makes you ignorant
Dude...
http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/070116e.pdf
FACT. FROM SONY NO LESS! Do you not have Acrobat Reader?
What kind of evidence is that? It may be fact but it does NOT say 2 million PS3’s were NOT sold.
it shipped 2 million, there is no way it sold them all.
They still managed it.
No, your article said this.
Sony this week announced that it has sold 2 million PS3 units worldwide, missing its year-end forecast by several weeks.
OH, GUESS WHAT! That’s the same week. And they said “SONY SAID”, but they didn’t say sold, they said shipped. Shipped and sold ARE NOT THE SAME.
You idiot. It said sold.
the sight linked in this thread said sold. sony said shipped.
It said that Sony ANNOUNCED they sold 2 million and Sony said shipped 4 BEFORE. That does not counter the article and Sony’s announcement 4 days later unless you can find a more recent Sony document or announcement that says they made a mistake.
they said that sony had claimed they sold 2 million. we do some research, and find an article with sony saying they have shipped 2 million. think about what might have happened.
You found and OLDER document. 4 days older is a lot in the business world.
not by that much. they reference a source from previous in the week, and we find a source that is previous that week. they don’t release numbers every god damn day. they don’t even release numbers every week. its a very rare thing. there is no way they release those numbers, then released new ones 1-3 days later.
this is why people need to cite their sources...
This is another factor. The time it takes for sales figures to be given out. Japan is, as far as I know, the only country that does this weekly.
Just because it was done 1 week does not mean they do it weekly. The last article I’ve reading about sell numbers for the PS3 was about the end result of last year for the PS3. That’s well over 2 weeks.
no one releases sales ever 1-3 days. ever.
 | | | | 22 Jan 2007 07:44 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 20 Joined: 26 Aug 2005 Posts: 4,728 OFFLINE | Online Predator wrote:
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kev360 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
RageOverdose wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
RageOverdose wrote:
Read this if your stupid 2 wrote:
RageOverdose wrote:
Read this if your stupid 2 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
Zucas wrote:
Oh my god let’s all be ignorant and arrogant. First of all those are shipments. Hell most of those consoles are either still in stores getting dusty or still on a ship coming to either America or Japan. And secondly it’s worldwide. 2 million worldwide. Not just Japan. Wii had shipped 4 million worldwide as of the end of 2006 and ever increasing. And you think 2 million shipped in a greater time period and not a sellout is showing up the Wii. Oh you showed me up just like the PSP showed up the DS.[sarcastic ownage]
Those are NOT shipments. Over 2 million have been sold as in over 2 million people have PS3s. Why is it that whenever something good happens for Sony Nintendo fans change the whole story around to make Nintendo look better?
The ratio for Wiis vs. PS3s sold is 2:1 so calm down Nintendo fans. You’re still winning wat least.
we might as well not try to reason with them. They dont take reason and fact anything that goes threw to them has to come in through a flame
Haven’t flamed.
Zucas didn’t either, just harsh objection. Unlike you who spewed curses at him and insulted him just because he disagreed.
Oh, and as for fact, I posted fact. From Sony themselves.
No see zucas did flame we just flamed him back like he wanted. And we gave you fact and you didnt take it witch makes you ignorant
Dude...
http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/070116e.pdf
FACT. FROM SONY NO LESS! Do you not have Acrobat Reader?
What kind of evidence is that? It may be fact but it does NOT say 2 million PS3’s were NOT sold.
it shipped 2 million, there is no way it sold them all.
They still managed it.
No, your article said this.
Sony this week announced that it has sold 2 million PS3 units worldwide, missing its year-end forecast by several weeks.
OH, GUESS WHAT! That’s the same week. And they said “SONY SAID”, but they didn’t say sold, they said shipped. Shipped and sold ARE NOT THE SAME.
You idiot. It said sold.
the sight linked in this thread said sold. sony said shipped.
It said that Sony ANNOUNCED they sold 2 million and Sony said shipped 4 BEFORE. That does not counter the article and Sony’s announcement 4 days later unless you can find a more recent Sony document or announcement that says they made a mistake.
they said that sony had claimed they sold 2 million. we do some research, and find an article with sony saying they have shipped 2 million. think about what might have happened.
You found and OLDER document. 4 days older is a lot in the business world.
not by that much. they reference a source from previous in the week, and we find a source that is previous that week. they don’t release numbers every god damn day. they don’t even release numbers every week. its a very rare thing. there is no way they release those numbers, then released new ones 1-3 days later.
this is why people need to cite their sources...
This is another factor. The time it takes for sales figures to be given out. Japan is, as far as I know, the only country that does this weekly.
Just because it was done 1 week does not mean they do it weekly. The last article I’ve reading about sell numbers for the PS3 was about the end result of last year for the PS3. That’s well over 2 weeks.
Um, every week Joystiq posts Japanese sales charts. There is a site that updates these. They post the rest when they get them, which is always MUCH, MUCH longer.
 
Haruhi demands you join the MvC Otakus | | | 22 Jan 2007 07:46 pm |
The one and only OP Rep: 27 Joined: 28 May 2006 Posts: 9,100 OFFLINE | RageOverdose wrote:
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My article said the sells dropped in Japan. Are you on crack or something.
My document states otherwise. Unless you have some actual documentation or chart to prove me otherwise, your article won’t suffice. Better yet, unless that article follows up with some, it won’t suffice.
Just because it dropped in Japan does not mean it can’t sell in the rest of the world.
The rest of the world is America. 1 million in Japan, 1 million in America. In order to sell 2 million, it would have to be sold out in both countries. Your logic fails.
1. Estimates
2. The sell rate dropping does not mean it did not sell, it could be a lot of things
No, my article is more up to date than yours so yours is out. Your document must be newer than mine in order to disprove it.
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 | | | 22 Jan 2007 07:48 pm |
The one and only OP Rep: 27Joined: 28 May 2006 Posts: 9,100 OFFLINE | RageOverdose wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
RageOverdose wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
RageOverdose wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
RageOverdose wrote:
Read this if your stupid 2 wrote:
RageOverdose wrote:
Read this if your stupid 2 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
Zucas wrote:
Oh my god let’s all be ignorant and arrogant. First of all those are shipments. Hell most of those consoles are either still in stores getting dusty or still on a ship coming to either America or Japan. And secondly it’s worldwide. 2 million worldwide. Not just Japan. Wii had shipped 4 million worldwide as of the end of 2006 and ever increasing. And you think 2 million shipped in a greater time period and not a sellout is showing up the Wii. Oh you showed me up just like the PSP showed up the DS.[sarcastic ownage]
Those are NOT shipments. Over 2 million have been sold as in over 2 million people have PS3s. Why is it that whenever something good happens for Sony Nintendo fans change the whole story around to make Nintendo look better?
The ratio for Wiis vs. PS3s sold is 2:1 so calm down Nintendo fans. You’re still winning wat least.
we might as well not try to reason with them. They dont take reason and fact anything that goes threw to them has to come in through a flame
Haven’t flamed.
Zucas didn’t either, just harsh objection. Unlike you who spewed curses at him and insulted him just because he disagreed.
Oh, and as for fact, I posted fact. From Sony themselves.
No see zucas did flame we just flamed him back like he wanted. And we gave you fact and you didnt take it witch makes you ignorant
Dude...
http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/070116e.pdf
FACT. FROM SONY NO LESS! Do you not have Acrobat Reader?
What kind of evidence is that? It may be fact but it does NOT say 2 million PS3’s were NOT sold.
it shipped 2 million, there is no way it sold them all.
They still managed it.
No, your article said this.
Sony this week announced that it has sold 2 million PS3 units worldwide, missing its year-end forecast by several weeks.
OH, GUESS WHAT! That’s the same week. And they said “SONY SAID”, but they didn’t say sold, they said shipped. Shipped and sold ARE NOT THE SAME.
You idiot. It said sold.
the sight linked in this thread said sold. sony said shipped.
It said that Sony ANNOUNCED they sold 2 million and Sony said shipped 4 BEFORE. That does not counter the article and Sony’s announcement 4 days later unless you can find a more recent Sony document or announcement that says they made a mistake.
they said that sony had claimed they sold 2 million. we do some research, and find an article with sony saying they have shipped 2 million. think about what might have happened.
You found and OLDER document. 4 days older is a lot in the business world.
not by that much. they reference a source from previous in the week, and we find a source that is previous that week. they don’t release numbers every god damn day. they don’t even release numbers every week. its a very rare thing. there is no way they release those numbers, then released new ones 1-3 days later.
this is why people need to cite their sources...
This is another factor. The time it takes for sales figures to be given out. Japan is, as far as I know, the only country that does this weekly.
Just because it was done 1 week does not mean they do it weekly. The last article I’ve reading about sell numbers for the PS3 was about the end result of last year for the PS3. That’s well over 2 weeks.
Um, every week Joystiq posts Japanese sales charts. There is a site that updates these. They post the rest when they get them, which is always MUCH, MUCH longer.
Not always and a company can easily watch sells for over 2 weeks and make an announcement all of sudden. It does not have to be done monthly or weekly. The pattern can be broken.
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| | | 22 Jan 2007 07:49 pm |
The one and only OP Rep: 27Joined: 28 May 2006 Posts: 9,100 OFFLINE | kev360 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
RageOverdose wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
RageOverdose wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
RageOverdose wrote:
Read this if your stupid 2 wrote:
RageOverdose wrote:
Read this if your stupid 2 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
Zucas wrote:
Oh my god let’s all be ignorant and arrogant. First of all those are shipments. Hell most of those consoles are either still in stores getting dusty or still on a ship coming to either America or Japan. And secondly it’s worldwide. 2 million worldwide. Not just Japan. Wii had shipped 4 million worldwide as of the end of 2006 and ever increasing. And you think 2 million shipped in a greater time period and not a sellout is showing up the Wii. Oh you showed me up just like the PSP showed up the DS.[sarcastic ownage]
Those are NOT shipments. Over 2 million have been sold as in over 2 million people have PS3s. Why is it that whenever something good happens for Sony Nintendo fans change the whole story around to make Nintendo look better?
The ratio for Wiis vs. PS3s sold is 2:1 so calm down Nintendo fans. You’re still winning wat least.
we might as well not try to reason with them. They dont take reason and fact anything that goes threw to them has to come in through a flame
Haven’t flamed.
Zucas didn’t either, just harsh objection. Unlike you who spewed curses at him and insulted him just because he disagreed.
Oh, and as for fact, I posted fact. From Sony themselves.
No see zucas did flame we just flamed him back like he wanted. And we gave you fact and you didnt take it witch makes you ignorant
Dude...
http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/070116e.pdf
FACT. FROM SONY NO LESS! Do you not have Acrobat Reader?
What kind of evidence is that? It may be fact but it does NOT say 2 million PS3’s were NOT sold.
it shipped 2 million, there is no way it sold them all.
They still managed it.
No, your article said this.
Sony this week announced that it has sold 2 million PS3 units worldwide, missing its year-end forecast by several weeks.
OH, GUESS WHAT! That’s the same week. And they said “SONY SAID”, but they didn’t say sold, they said shipped. Shipped and sold ARE NOT THE SAME.
You idiot. It said sold.
the sight linked in this thread said sold. sony said shipped.
It said that Sony ANNOUNCED they sold 2 million and Sony said shipped 4 BEFORE. That does not counter the article and Sony’s announcement 4 days later unless you can find a more recent Sony document or announcement that says they made a mistake.
they said that sony had claimed they sold 2 million. we do some research, and find an article with sony saying they have shipped 2 million. think about what might have happened.
You found and OLDER document. 4 days older is a lot in the business world.
not by that much. they reference a source from previous in the week, and we find a source that is previous that week. they don’t release numbers every god damn day. they don’t even release numbers every week. its a very rare thing. there is no way they release those numbers, then released new ones 1-3 days later.
this is why people need to cite their sources...
This is another factor. The time it takes for sales figures to be given out. Japan is, as far as I know, the only country that does this weekly.
Just because it was done 1 week does not mean they do it weekly. The last article I’ve reading about sell numbers for the PS3 was about the end result of last year for the PS3. That’s well over 2 weeks.
no one releases sales ever 1-3 days. ever.
Actually, that can happen. Those 'rule' or whatever you will call them are not set in stone.
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| | | 22 Jan 2007 07:51 pm |
when you see it, you'll shit bricks Rep: 34Joined: 10 Sep 2005 Posts: 15,652 ONLINE | Online Predator wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
RageOverdose wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
RageOverdose wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
RageOverdose wrote:
Read this if your stupid 2 wrote:
RageOverdose wrote:
Read this if your stupid 2 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
Zucas wrote:
Oh my god let’s all be ignorant and arrogant. First of all those are shipments. Hell most of those consoles are either still in stores getting dusty or still on a ship coming to either America or Japan. And secondly it’s worldwide. 2 million worldwide. Not just Japan. Wii had shipped 4 million worldwide as of the end of 2006 and ever increasing. And you think 2 million shipped in a greater time period and not a sellout is showing up the Wii. Oh you showed me up just like the PSP showed up the DS.[sarcastic ownage]
Those are NOT shipments. Over 2 million have been sold as in over 2 million people have PS3s. Why is it that whenever something good happens for Sony Nintendo fans change the whole story around to make Nintendo look better?
The ratio for Wiis vs. PS3s sold is 2:1 so calm down Nintendo fans. You’re still winning wat least.
we might as well not try to reason with them. They dont take reason and fact anything that goes threw to them has to come in through a flame
Haven’t flamed.
Zucas didn’t either, just harsh objection. Unlike you who spewed curses at him and insulted him just because he disagreed.
Oh, and as for fact, I posted fact. From Sony themselves.
No see zucas did flame we just flamed him back like he wanted. And we gave you fact and you didnt take it witch makes you ignorant
Dude...
http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/070116e.pdf
FACT. FROM SONY NO LESS! Do you not have Acrobat Reader?
What kind of evidence is that? It may be fact but it does NOT say 2 million PS3’s were NOT sold.
it shipped 2 million, there is no way it sold them all.
They still managed it.
No, your article said this.
Sony this week announced that it has sold 2 million PS3 units worldwide, missing its year-end forecast by several weeks.
OH, GUESS WHAT! That’s the same week. And they said “SONY SAID”, but they didn’t say sold, they said shipped. Shipped and sold ARE NOT THE SAME.
You idiot. It said sold.
the sight linked in this thread said sold. sony said shipped.
It said that Sony ANNOUNCED they sold 2 million and Sony said shipped 4 BEFORE. That does not counter the article and Sony’s announcement 4 days later unless you can find a more recent Sony document or announcement that says they made a mistake.
they said that sony had claimed they sold 2 million. we do some research, and find an article with sony saying they have shipped 2 million. think about what might have happened.
You found and OLDER document. 4 days older is a lot in the business world.
not by that much. they reference a source from previous in the week, and we find a source that is previous that week. they don’t release numbers every god damn day. they don’t even release numbers every week. its a very rare thing. there is no way they release those numbers, then released new ones 1-3 days later.
this is why people need to cite their sources...
This is another factor. The time it takes for sales figures to be given out. Japan is, as far as I know, the only country that does this weekly.
Just because it was done 1 week does not mean they do it weekly. The last article I’ve reading about sell numbers for the PS3 was about the end result of last year for the PS3. That’s well over 2 weeks.
no one releases sales ever 1-3 days. ever.
Actually, that can happen. Those 'rule' or whatever you will call them are not set in stone.
no... there is no way.
| | | 22 Jan 2007 07:53 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 20Joined: 26 Aug 2005 Posts: 4,728 OFFLINE | Online Predator wrote:
2. The sell rate dropping does not mean it did not sell, it could be a lot of things
There have been no records of selling out in Japan at all.
The previous week it didn’t even sell 100,000.
The last total retail sales in Japan (same week as the corporate document) were less than 1 million. In that same week, it sold a mere 25,000.
THERE IS NO WAY IT COULD BE 2 MILLION SOLD RETAIL.
Want proof?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ps3
http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/070116e.pdf
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/01/19/japanese-hardware-sales-8-jan-14-jan-post-holiday-blues-edit/
So, lets see, if there is truly 2 million sold retail around the world (US and Japan), then it would be sold out, which it is not.
All of those reference to the same week, which is the same week the article posted. Unless within the four days (in fact, the Joystiq article is the 19th) Sony sold around 500,000 (which would be a humongous percentage increase) then you would be right, but that would be a work of God.
Otherwise, the article misworded.
Haruhi demands you join the MvC OtakusLast edited 22 Jan 2007 07:54 pm by RageOverdose | | | 22 Jan 2007 07:54 pm |
The one and only OP Rep: 27Joined: 28 May 2006 Posts: 9,100 OFFLINE | kev360 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
RageOverdose wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
RageOverdose wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
RageOverdose wrote:
Read this if your stupid 2 wrote:
RageOverdose wrote:
Read this if your stupid 2 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
Zucas wrote:
Oh my god let’s all be ignorant and arrogant. First of all those are shipments. Hell most of those consoles are either still in stores getting dusty or still on a ship coming to either America or Japan. And secondly it’s worldwide. 2 million worldwide. Not just Japan. Wii had shipped 4 million worldwide as of the end of 2006 and ever increasing. And you think 2 million shipped in a greater time period and not a sellout is showing up the Wii. Oh you showed me up just like the PSP showed up the DS.[sarcastic ownage]
Those are NOT shipments. Over 2 million have been sold as in over 2 million people have PS3s. Why is it that whenever something good happens for Sony Nintendo fans change the whole story around to make Nintendo look better?
The ratio for Wiis vs. PS3s sold is 2:1 so calm down Nintendo fans. You’re still winning wat least.
we might as well not try to reason with them. They dont take reason and fact anything that goes threw to them has to come in through a flame
Haven’t flamed.
Zucas didn’t either, just harsh objection. Unlike you who spewed curses at him and insulted him just because he disagreed.
Oh, and as for fact, I posted fact. From Sony themselves.
No see zucas did flame we just flamed him back like he wanted. And we gave you fact and you didnt take it witch makes you ignorant
Dude...
http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/070116e.pdf
FACT. FROM SONY NO LESS! Do you not have Acrobat Reader?
What kind of evidence is that? It may be fact but it does NOT say 2 million PS3’s were NOT sold.
it shipped 2 million, there is no way it sold them all.
They still managed it.
No, your article said this.
Sony this week announced that it has sold 2 million PS3 units worldwide, missing its year-end forecast by several weeks.
OH, GUESS WHAT! That’s the same week. And they said “SONY SAID”, but they didn’t say sold, they said shipped. Shipped and sold ARE NOT THE SAME.
You idiot. It said sold.
the sight linked in this thread said sold. sony said shipped.
It said that Sony ANNOUNCED they sold 2 million and Sony said shipped 4 BEFORE. That does not counter the article and Sony’s announcement 4 days later unless you can find a more recent Sony document or announcement that says they made a mistake.
they said that sony had claimed they sold 2 million. we do some research, and find an article with sony saying they have shipped 2 million. think about what might have happened.
You found and OLDER document. 4 days older is a lot in the business world.
not by that much. they reference a source from previous in the week, and we find a source that is previous that week. they don’t release numbers every god damn day. they don’t even release numbers every week. its a very rare thing. there is no way they release those numbers, then released new ones 1-3 days later.
this is why people need to cite their sources...
This is another factor. The time it takes for sales figures to be given out. Japan is, as far as I know, the only country that does this weekly.
Just because it was done 1 week does not mean they do it weekly. The last article I’ve reading about sell numbers for the PS3 was about the end result of last year for the PS3. That’s well over 2 weeks.
no one releases sales ever 1-3 days. ever.
Actually, that can happen. Those 'rule' or whatever you will call them are not set in stone.
no... there is no way.
Seems Sony has proved otherwise.
It isn’t a law and can be done if wished. it may be more laborious but can be done, especially when the future of your company relies on the product. You’d be watching it 24/7 so that you can act immediately if anything must be done.
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| | | 22 Jan 2007 07:54 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 45  Joined: 01 Jul 2006 Posts: 4,149 OFFLINE | kev360 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
RageOverdose wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
RageOverdose wrote:
Read this if your stupid 2 wrote:
RageOverdose wrote:
Read this if your stupid 2 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
Zucas wrote:
Oh my god let’s all be ignorant and arrogant. First of all those are shipments. Hell most of those consoles are either still in stores getting dusty or still on a ship coming to either America or Japan. And secondly it’s worldwide. 2 million worldwide. Not just Japan. Wii had shipped 4 million worldwide as of the end of 2006 and ever increasing. And you think 2 million shipped in a greater time period and not a sellout is showing up the Wii. Oh you showed me up just like the PSP showed up the DS.[sarcastic ownage]
Those are NOT shipments. Over 2 million have been sold as in over 2 million people have PS3s. Why is it that whenever something good happens for Sony Nintendo fans change the whole story around to make Nintendo look better?
The ratio for Wiis vs. PS3s sold is 2:1 so calm down Nintendo fans. You’re still winning wat least.
we might as well not try to reason with them. They dont take reason and fact anything that goes threw to them has to come in through a flame
Haven’t flamed.
Zucas didn’t either, just harsh objection. Unlike you who spewed curses at him and insulted him just because he disagreed.
Oh, and as for fact, I posted fact. From Sony themselves.
No see zucas did flame we just flamed him back like he wanted. And we gave you fact and you didnt take it witch makes you ignorant
Dude...
http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/070116e.pdf
FACT. FROM SONY NO LESS! Do you not have Acrobat Reader?
What kind of evidence is that? It may be fact but it does NOT say 2 million PS3’s were NOT sold.
it shipped 2 million, there is no way it sold them all.
They still managed it.
No, your article said this.
Sony this week announced that it has sold 2 million PS3 units worldwide, missing its year-end forecast by several weeks.
OH, GUESS WHAT! That’s the same week. And they said “SONY SAID”, but they didn’t say sold, they said shipped. Shipped and sold ARE NOT THE SAME.
You idiot. It said sold.
the sight linked in this thread said sold. sony said shipped.
It said that Sony ANNOUNCED they sold 2 million and Sony said shipped 4 BEFORE. That does not counter the article and Sony’s announcement 4 days later unless you can find a more recent Sony document or announcement that says they made a mistake.
they said that sony had claimed they sold 2 million. we do some research, and find an article with sony saying they have shipped 2 million. think about what might have happened.
yes people mistoke sold for shipped its a confusion people seem to face often
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| | | 22 Jan 2007 07:55 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 45Joined: 01 Jul 2006 Posts: 4,149 OFFLINE | RageOverdose wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
2. The sell rate dropping does not mean it did not sell, it could be a lot of things
There have been no records of selling out in Japan at all.
The previous week it didn’t even sell 100,000.
The last total retail sales in Japan (same week as the corporate document) were less than 1 million. In that same week, it sold a mere 25,000.
THERE IS NO WAY IT COULD BE 2 MILLION SOLD RETAIL.
Want proof?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ps3
http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/070116e.pdf
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/01/19/japanese-hardware-sales-8-jan-14-jan-post-holiday-blues-edit/
So, lets see, if there is truly 2 million sold retail around the world (US and Japan), then it would be sold out, which it is not.
All of those reference to the same week, which is the same week the article posted. Unless within the four days (in fact, the Joystiq article is the 19th) Sony sold around 500,000 (which would be a humongous percentage increase) then you would be right, but that would be a work of God.
Otherwise, the article misworded.
Thats what there saying not what sonys saying man your so arrogant
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| | | 22 Jan 2007 07:56 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 20Joined: 26 Aug 2005 Posts: 4,728 OFFLINE | Read this if your stupid 2 wrote:
RageOverdose wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
2. The sell rate dropping does not mean it did not sell, it could be a lot of things
There have been no records of selling out in Japan at all.
The previous week it didn’t even sell 100,000.
The last total retail sales in Japan (same week as the corporate document) were less than 1 million. In that same week, it sold a mere 25,000.
THERE IS NO WAY IT COULD BE 2 MILLION SOLD RETAIL.
Want proof?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ps3
http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/070116e.pdf
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/01/19/japanese-hardware-sales-8-jan-14-jan-post-holiday-blues-edit/
So, lets see, if there is truly 2 million sold retail around the world (US and Japan), then it would be sold out, which it is not.
All of those reference to the same week, which is the same week the article posted. Unless within the four days (in fact, the Joystiq article is the 19th) Sony sold around 500,000 (which would be a humongous percentage increase) then you would be right, but that would be a work of God.
Otherwise, the article misworded.
Thats what there saying not what sonys saying man your so arrogant
Um, the second article is Sony dude.
And that’s not arrogance. You would be referring to ignorance, arrogance is the feeling of false superiority, which I do not feel superior at all right now. I’m also not being ignorant, just stubborn.
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The one and only OP Rep: 27Joined: 28 May 2006 Posts: 9,100 OFFLINE | RageOverdose wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
2. The sell rate dropping does not mean it did not sell, it could be a lot of things
There have been no records of selling out in Japan at all.
The previous week it didn’t even sell 100,000.
The last total retail sales in Japan (same week as the corporate document) were less than 1 million. In that same week, it sold a mere 25,000.
THERE IS NO WAY IT COULD BE 2 MILLION SOLD RETAIL.
Want proof?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ps3
http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/070116e.pdf
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/01/19/japanese-hardware-sales-8-jan-14-jan-post-holiday-blues-edit/
So, lets see, if there is truly 2 million sold retail around the world (US and Japan), then it would be sold out, which it is not.
All of those reference to the same week, which is the same week the article posted. Unless within the four days (in fact, the Joystiq article is the 19th) Sony sold around 500,000 (which would be a humongous percentage increase) then you would be right, but that would be a work of God.
Otherwise, the article misworded.
Wait a second. 1st you guys say there is no way sells are done weekly and such and then you guys say otehrwise? Wow, can’t stick with the same argument.
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| | | 22 Jan 2007 07:58 pm |
when you see it, you'll shit bricks Rep: 34Joined: 10 Sep 2005 Posts: 15,652 ONLINE | Online Predator wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
RageOverdose wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
RageOverdose wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
RageOverdose wrote:
Read this if your stupid 2 wrote:
RageOverdose wrote:
Read this if your stupid 2 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
Zucas wrote:
Oh my god let’s all be ignorant and arrogant. First of all those are shipments. Hell most of those consoles are either still in stores getting dusty or still on a ship coming to either America or Japan. And secondly it’s worldwide. 2 million worldwide. Not just Japan. Wii had shipped 4 million worldwide as of the end of 2006 and ever increasing. And you think 2 million shipped in a greater time period and not a sellout is showing up the Wii. Oh you showed me up just like the PSP showed up the DS.[sarcastic ownage]
Those are NOT shipments. Over 2 million have been sold as in over 2 million people have PS3s. Why is it that whenever something good happens for Sony Nintendo fans change the whole story around to make Nintendo look better?
The ratio for Wiis vs. PS3s sold is 2:1 so calm down Nintendo fans. You’re still winning wat least.
we might as well not try to reason with them. They dont take reason and fact anything that goes threw to them has to come in through a flame
Haven’t flamed.
Zucas didn’t either, just harsh objection. Unlike you who spewed curses at him and insulted him just because he disagreed.
Oh, and as for fact, I posted fact. From Sony themselves.
No see zucas did flame we just flamed him back like he wanted. And we gave you fact and you didnt take it witch makes you ignorant
Dude...
http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/070116e.pdf
FACT. FROM SONY NO LESS! Do you not have Acrobat Reader?
What kind of evidence is that? It may be fact but it does NOT say 2 million PS3’s were NOT sold.
it shipped 2 million, there is no way it sold them all.
They still managed it.
No, your article said this.
Sony this week announced that it has sold 2 million PS3 units worldwide, missing its year-end forecast by several weeks.
OH, GUESS WHAT! That’s the same week. And they said “SONY SAID”, but they didn’t say sold, they said shipped. Shipped and sold ARE NOT THE SAME.
You idiot. It said sold.
the sight linked in this thread said sold. sony said shipped.
It said that Sony ANNOUNCED they sold 2 million and Sony said shipped 4 BEFORE. That does not counter the article and Sony’s announcement 4 days later unless you can find a more recent Sony document or announcement that says they made a mistake.
they said that sony had claimed they sold 2 million. we do some research, and find an article with sony saying they have shipped 2 million. think about what might have happened.
You found and OLDER document. 4 days older is a lot in the business world.
not by that much. they reference a source from previous in the week, and we find a source that is previous that week. they don’t release numbers every god damn day. they don’t even release numbers every week. its a very rare thing. there is no way they release those numbers, then released new ones 1-3 days later.
this is why people need to cite their sources...
This is another factor. The time it takes for sales figures to be given out. Japan is, as far as I know, the only country that does this weekly.
Just because it was done 1 week does not mean they do it weekly. The last article I’ve reading about sell numbers for the PS3 was about the end result of last year for the PS3. That’s well over 2 weeks.
no one releases sales ever 1-3 days. ever.
Actually, that can happen. Those 'rule' or whatever you will call them are not set in stone.
no... there is no way.
Seems Sony has proved otherwise.
It isn’t a law and can be done if wished. it may be more laborious but can be done, especially when the future of your company relies on the product. You’d be watching it 24/7 so that you can act immediately if anything must be done.
no they haven’t becouse they haven’t done so. the sight just read it as sales rather then shipments. it happens all the time. no one would release 2 reports that quickly becouse there would be virtually no change. they sell a lot each day, but a few days aren’t going to make that huge of a difference in comparison to the overall sales.
| | | 22 Jan 2007 07:58 pm |
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  Last edited 22 Jan 2007 07:59 pm by Xtrm Liability | | | 22 Jan 2007 07:58 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 20Joined: 26 Aug 2005 Posts: 4,728 OFFLINE | Online Predator wrote:
RageOverdose wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
2. The sell rate dropping does not mean it did not sell, it could be a lot of things
There have been no records of selling out in Japan at all.
The previous week it didn’t even sell 100,000.
The last total retail sales in Japan (same week as the corporate document) were less than 1 million. In that same week, it sold a mere 25,000.
THERE IS NO WAY IT COULD BE 2 MILLION SOLD RETAIL.
Want proof?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ps3
http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/070116e.pdf
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/01/19/japanese-hardware-sales-8-jan-14-jan-post-holiday-blues-edit/
So, lets see, if there is truly 2 million sold retail around the world (US and Japan), then it would be sold out, which it is not.
All of those reference to the same week, which is the same week the article posted. Unless within the four days (in fact, the Joystiq article is the 19th) Sony sold around 500,000 (which would be a humongous percentage increase) then you would be right, but that would be a work of God.
Otherwise, the article misworded.
Wait a second. 1st you guys say there is no way sells are done weekly and such and then you guys say otehrwise? Wow, can’t stick with the same argument.
No, I said they are done weekly in JAPAN ONLY. Did you miss that?
RageOverdose wrote:
This is another factor. The time it takes for sales figures to be given out. Japan is, as far as I know, the only country that does this weekly.
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UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 45Joined: 01 Jul 2006 Posts: 4,149 OFFLINE | Xtrm Liability wrote:
Read this if your stupid 2 wrote:
Thats what there saying not what sonys saying man your so arrogant
Actually this is a legitimate document from Sony.
[url]http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/070116e.pdf [/url]
wy would sony calim 2 diffrent things. Its obvious they sold that much not shipped
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| | | 22 Jan 2007 07:59 pm |
when you see it, you'll shit bricks Rep: 34Joined: 10 Sep 2005 Posts: 15,652 ONLINE | Online Predator wrote:
RageOverdose wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
2. The sell rate dropping does not mean it did not sell, it could be a lot of things
There have been no records of selling out in Japan at all.
The previous week it didn’t even sell 100,000.
The last total retail sales in Japan (same week as the corporate document) were less than 1 million. In that same week, it sold a mere 25,000.
THERE IS NO WAY IT COULD BE 2 MILLION SOLD RETAIL.
Want proof?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ps3
http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/070116e.pdf
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/01/19/japanese-hardware-sales-8-jan-14-jan-post-holiday-blues-edit/
So, lets see, if there is truly 2 million sold retail around the world (US and Japan), then it would be sold out, which it is not.
All of those reference to the same week, which is the same week the article posted. Unless within the four days (in fact, the Joystiq article is the 19th) Sony sold around 500,000 (which would be a humongous percentage increase) then you would be right, but that would be a work of God.
Otherwise, the article misworded.
Wait a second. 1st you guys say there is no way sells are done weekly and such and then you guys say otehrwise? Wow, can’t stick with the same argument.
its weekly in jappan, monthly in the US, and even less updates for overall product sales.
| | | 22 Jan 2007 08:01 pm |
when you see it, you'll shit bricks Rep: 34Joined: 10 Sep 2005 Posts: 15,652 ONLINE | Read this if your stupid 2 wrote:
Xtrm Liability wrote:
Read this if your stupid 2 wrote:
Thats what there saying not what sonys saying man your so arrogant
Actually this is a legitimate document from Sony.
[url]http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/070116e.pdf [/url]
wy would sony calim 2 diffrent things. Its obvious they sold that much not shipped
they didn’t claim two different things, the sight read it as sold rather then shipped. that ACTUALLY MAKES SENSE, rather then what you guys are saying.
| | | 22 Jan 2007 08:01 pm |
The one and only OP Rep: 27Joined: 28 May 2006 Posts: 9,100 OFFLINE | kev360 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
RageOverdose wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
RageOverdose wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
RageOverdose wrote:
Read this if your stupid 2 wrote:
RageOverdose wrote:
Read this if your stupid 2 wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
Zucas wrote:
Oh my god let’s all be ignorant and arrogant. First of all those are shipments. Hell most of those consoles are either still in stores getting dusty or still on a ship coming to either America or Japan. And secondly it’s worldwide. 2 million worldwide. Not just Japan. Wii had shipped 4 million worldwide as of the end of 2006 and ever increasing. And you think 2 million shipped in a greater time period and not a sellout is showing up the Wii. Oh you showed me up just like the PSP showed up the DS.[sarcastic ownage]
Those are NOT shipments. Over 2 million have been sold as in over 2 million people have PS3s. Why is it that whenever something good happens for Sony Nintendo fans change the whole story around to make Nintendo look better?
The ratio for Wiis vs. PS3s sold is 2:1 so calm down Nintendo fans. You’re still winning wat least.
we might as well not try to reason with them. They dont take reason and fact anything that goes threw to them has to come in through a flame
Haven’t flamed.
Zucas didn’t either, just harsh objection. Unlike you who spewed curses at him and insulted him just because he disagreed.
Oh, and as for fact, I posted fact. From Sony themselves.
No see zucas did flame we just flamed him back like he wanted. And we gave you fact and you didnt take it witch makes you ignorant
Dude...
http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/070116e.pdf
FACT. FROM SONY NO LESS! Do you not have Acrobat Reader?
What kind of evidence is that? It may be fact but it does NOT say 2 million PS3’s were NOT sold.
it shipped 2 million, there is no way it sold them all.
They still managed it.
No, your article said this.
Sony this week announced that it has sold 2 million PS3 units worldwide, missing its year-end forecast by several weeks.
OH, GUESS WHAT! That’s the same week. And they said “SONY SAID”, but they didn’t say sold, they said shipped. Shipped and sold ARE NOT THE SAME.
You idiot. It said sold.
the sight linked in this thread said sold. sony said shipped.
It said that Sony ANNOUNCED they sold 2 million and Sony said shipped 4 BEFORE. That does not counter the article and Sony’s announcement 4 days later unless you can find a more recent Sony document or announcement that says they made a mistake.
they said that sony had claimed they sold 2 million. we do some research, and find an article with sony saying they have shipped 2 million. think about what might have happened.
You found and OLDER document. 4 days older is a lot in the business world.
not by that much. they reference a source from previous in the week, and we find a source that is previous that week. they don’t release numbers every god damn day. they don’t even release numbers every week. its a very rare thing. there is no way they release those numbers, then released new ones 1-3 days later.
this is why people need to cite their sources...
This is another factor. The time it takes for sales figures to be given out. Japan is, as far as I know, the only country that does this weekly.
Just because it was done 1 week does not mean they do it weekly. The last article I’ve reading about sell numbers for the PS3 was about the end result of last year for the PS3. That’s well over 2 weeks.
no one releases sales ever 1-3 days. ever.
Actually, that can happen. Those 'rule' or whatever you will call them are not set in stone.
no... there is no way.
Seems Sony has proved otherwise.
It isn’t a law and can be done if wished. it may be more laborious but can be done, especially when the future of your company relies on the product. You’d be watching it 24/7 so that you can act immediately if anything must be done.
no they haven’t becouse they haven’t done so. the sight just read it as sales rather then shipments. it happens all the time. no one would release 2 reports that quickly becouse there would be virtually no change. they sell a lot each day, but a few days aren’t going to make that huge of a difference in comparison to the overall sales.
It can, especially when the product become mroe abundant.
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