| 28 Jan 2007 08:43 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 6  Joined: 26 Sep 2006 Posts: 2,190 OFFLINE | derdev789 wrote:
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
derdev789 wrote:
k.
Post crisis superman held a small black whole using both of his hands. A small star is about 1708.8 times earth’s weight. (A star gets more massive when it becomes a black whole, but lets just pretend it doesn’t. Given that star size, a small black whole would be about the same weight.) That comes out to a whopping 10,208,712,960,000,000,000,000,000,000 kg, or 1.020871296 to the 28th power kg.
Goku’s strength:
Going by a link gplex gave me, goku’s estimated power during the cell saga, while in ssj, was 120,000,000. it was 15,000,000 in the freeza saga, so that means he got about 8 times stronger. Say he gets another 8 times stronger by the end of the buu saga. Now hes at 960,000,000, or 64 times stronger then he was in the freeza saga. Now, before the freeza saga, when he had a power level of 180,000 in base, he was able to lift about 40 tons. Now, lets translate all the ssj stats into base by dividing by 50 (he gets 50 times stronger when he goes to ssj) now, its 180,000 [before freeza saga], 300,000 [during freeza saga], 2,400,000 [during the cell saga], and 19,200,000 [during buu saga]. Add to that the 10 years of training. Now, seeing as he had no big enemies, he would not gain that fast. Lets just pretend he got stronger at about the same rate as gohan did when he was training with piccolo. That’s about 4 times a year. That’s now at 20,132,659,200,000 in base form. With ssj, he gets 50 times stronger. Lets say it is the same gap for each level. He is now at a power level of 2,516,582,400,000,000,000. That’s about 13,981,013,333,333 times stronger then when he lifted 40 tons. So, he would probably be able to lift about 559,240,533,333,320 tons. Now, remember the original 40 tons was under 100 times earth’s gravity. So, lets make it normal gravity. That’s 55,924,053,333,332,000 tons, or 5.073344778294492 to the 19th power kg. As you can see, he is still far weaker then post-crisis superman with his mental blocks still on is.
Goku can lift 5.5924053333332000 times 10 to the 16th KG
Supes can lift 1.020871296 times 10 to the 28th KG
That would make Superman around 10 to the 12th times stronger that Goku, that is 1 with 12 zero’s after it TIMES stronger than Goku. Game over.
I already disproved this bullshit, man 
Everybody that posts here agree’s with this “bullshit” you just don’t believe it because it makes Goku weaker. Just because you SAY it isn’t true doesn’t make it so. You “disproved” nothing, because in order to disprove it, SOMEBODY has to agree with you.
...Go 2 Goku vs Supes...
 | | | | 28 Jan 2007 08:46 pm |
King of MVC Rep: 26  Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 8,558 OFFLINE | UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
derdev789 wrote:
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
derdev789 wrote:
k.
Post crisis superman held a small black whole using both of his hands. A small star is about 1708.8 times earth’s weight. (A star gets more massive when it becomes a black whole, but lets just pretend it doesn’t. Given that star size, a small black whole would be about the same weight.) That comes out to a whopping 10,208,712,960,000,000,000,000,000,000 kg, or 1.020871296 to the 28th power kg.
Goku’s strength:
Going by a link gplex gave me, goku’s estimated power during the cell saga, while in ssj, was 120,000,000. it was 15,000,000 in the freeza saga, so that means he got about 8 times stronger. Say he gets another 8 times stronger by the end of the buu saga. Now hes at 960,000,000, or 64 times stronger then he was in the freeza saga. Now, before the freeza saga, when he had a power level of 180,000 in base, he was able to lift about 40 tons. Now, lets translate all the ssj stats into base by dividing by 50 (he gets 50 times stronger when he goes to ssj) now, its 180,000 [before freeza saga], 300,000 [during freeza saga], 2,400,000 [during the cell saga], and 19,200,000 [during buu saga]. Add to that the 10 years of training. Now, seeing as he had no big enemies, he would not gain that fast. Lets just pretend he got stronger at about the same rate as gohan did when he was training with piccolo. That’s about 4 times a year. That’s now at 20,132,659,200,000 in base form. With ssj, he gets 50 times stronger. Lets say it is the same gap for each level. He is now at a power level of 2,516,582,400,000,000,000. That’s about 13,981,013,333,333 times stronger then when he lifted 40 tons. So, he would probably be able to lift about 559,240,533,333,320 tons. Now, remember the original 40 tons was under 100 times earth’s gravity. So, lets make it normal gravity. That’s 55,924,053,333,332,000 tons, or 5.073344778294492 to the 19th power kg. As you can see, he is still far weaker then post-crisis superman with his mental blocks still on is.
Goku can lift 5.5924053333332000 times 10 to the 16th KG
Supes can lift 1.020871296 times 10 to the 28th KG
That would make Superman around 10 to the 12th times stronger that Goku, that is 1 with 12 zero’s after it TIMES stronger than Goku. Game over.
I already disproved this bullshit, man
Everybody that posts here agree’s with this “bullshit” you just don’t believe it because it makes Goku weaker. Just because you SAY it isn’t true doesn’t make it so. You “disproved” nothing, because in order to disprove it, SOMEBODY has to agree with you.
...Go 2 Goku vs Supes...
I have, and I’ve read what you have to say, and what you say does not prove that this is false, in fact it reestablishes it’s credibility. You increase Goku’s base weight that he can lift, so we increase the black hole to that of a white dwarf star, who’s to say what type of star it is? Unless you can show us a time that in his base form PRE TRAINING (because his calculation takes into effect his TRAINING) he lifted more than our equation says he lifted don’t even try because we will rerun the equation and come out with the same conclusion.
THE KING HAS RETURNED! | | | 28 Jan 2007 08:49 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 6Joined: 26 Sep 2006 Posts: 2,190 OFFLINE | derdev789 wrote:
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
derdev789 wrote:
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
derdev789 wrote:
k.
Post crisis superman held a small black whole using both of his hands. A small star is about 1708.8 times earth’s weight. (A star gets more massive when it becomes a black whole, but lets just pretend it doesn’t. Given that star size, a small black whole would be about the same weight.) That comes out to a whopping 10,208,712,960,000,000,000,000,000,000 kg, or 1.020871296 to the 28th power kg.
Goku’s strength:
Going by a link gplex gave me, goku’s estimated power during the cell saga, while in ssj, was 120,000,000. it was 15,000,000 in the freeza saga, so that means he got about 8 times stronger. Say he gets another 8 times stronger by the end of the buu saga. Now hes at 960,000,000, or 64 times stronger then he was in the freeza saga. Now, before the freeza saga, when he had a power level of 180,000 in base, he was able to lift about 40 tons. Now, lets translate all the ssj stats into base by dividing by 50 (he gets 50 times stronger when he goes to ssj) now, its 180,000 [before freeza saga], 300,000 [during freeza saga], 2,400,000 [during the cell saga], and 19,200,000 [during buu saga]. Add to that the 10 years of training. Now, seeing as he had no big enemies, he would not gain that fast. Lets just pretend he got stronger at about the same rate as gohan did when he was training with piccolo. That’s about 4 times a year. That’s now at 20,132,659,200,000 in base form. With ssj, he gets 50 times stronger. Lets say it is the same gap for each level. He is now at a power level of 2,516,582,400,000,000,000. That’s about 13,981,013,333,333 times stronger then when he lifted 40 tons. So, he would probably be able to lift about 559,240,533,333,320 tons. Now, remember the original 40 tons was under 100 times earth’s gravity. So, lets make it normal gravity. That’s 55,924,053,333,332,000 tons, or 5.073344778294492 to the 19th power kg. As you can see, he is still far weaker then post-crisis superman with his mental blocks still on is.
Goku can lift 5.5924053333332000 times 10 to the 16th KG
Supes can lift 1.020871296 times 10 to the 28th KG
That would make Superman around 10 to the 12th times stronger that Goku, that is 1 with 12 zero’s after it TIMES stronger than Goku. Game over.
I already disproved this bullshit, man
Everybody that posts here agree’s with this “bullshit” you just don’t believe it because it makes Goku weaker. Just because you SAY it isn’t true doesn’t make it so. You “disproved” nothing, because in order to disprove it, SOMEBODY has to agree with you.
...Go 2 Goku vs Supes...
I have, and I’ve read what you have to say, and what you say does not prove that this is false, in fact it reestablishes it’s credibility. You increase Goku’s base weight that he can lift, so we increase the black hole to that of a white dwarf star, who’s to say what type of star it is? Unless you can show us a time that in his base form PRE TRAINING (because his calculation takes into effect his TRAINING) he lifted more than our equation says he lifted don’t even try because we will rerun the equation and come out with the same conclusion.
A white dwarf >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Black hole in mass
The tiniest fragment weighs a few billion pounds
Goku fucking slaughters Supes in everything
| | | 28 Jan 2007 08:52 pm |
King of MVC Rep: 26Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 8,558 OFFLINE | UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
derdev789 wrote:
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
derdev789 wrote:
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
derdev789 wrote:
k.
Post crisis superman held a small black whole using both of his hands. A small star is about 1708.8 times earth’s weight. (A star gets more massive when it becomes a black whole, but lets just pretend it doesn’t. Given that star size, a small black whole would be about the same weight.) That comes out to a whopping 10,208,712,960,000,000,000,000,000,000 kg, or 1.020871296 to the 28th power kg.
Goku’s strength:
Going by a link gplex gave me, goku’s estimated power during the cell saga, while in ssj, was 120,000,000. it was 15,000,000 in the freeza saga, so that means he got about 8 times stronger. Say he gets another 8 times stronger by the end of the buu saga. Now hes at 960,000,000, or 64 times stronger then he was in the freeza saga. Now, before the freeza saga, when he had a power level of 180,000 in base, he was able to lift about 40 tons. Now, lets translate all the ssj stats into base by dividing by 50 (he gets 50 times stronger when he goes to ssj) now, its 180,000 [before freeza saga], 300,000 [during freeza saga], 2,400,000 [during the cell saga], and 19,200,000 [during buu saga]. Add to that the 10 years of training. Now, seeing as he had no big enemies, he would not gain that fast. Lets just pretend he got stronger at about the same rate as gohan did when he was training with piccolo. That’s about 4 times a year. That’s now at 20,132,659,200,000 in base form. With ssj, he gets 50 times stronger. Lets say it is the same gap for each level. He is now at a power level of 2,516,582,400,000,000,000. That’s about 13,981,013,333,333 times stronger then when he lifted 40 tons. So, he would probably be able to lift about 559,240,533,333,320 tons. Now, remember the original 40 tons was under 100 times earth’s gravity. So, lets make it normal gravity. That’s 55,924,053,333,332,000 tons, or 5.073344778294492 to the 19th power kg. As you can see, he is still far weaker then post-crisis superman with his mental blocks still on is.
Goku can lift 5.5924053333332000 times 10 to the 16th KG
Supes can lift 1.020871296 times 10 to the 28th KG
That would make Superman around 10 to the 12th times stronger that Goku, that is 1 with 12 zero’s after it TIMES stronger than Goku. Game over.
I already disproved this bullshit, man
Everybody that posts here agree’s with this “bullshit” you just don’t believe it because it makes Goku weaker. Just because you SAY it isn’t true doesn’t make it so. You “disproved” nothing, because in order to disprove it, SOMEBODY has to agree with you.
...Go 2 Goku vs Supes...
I have, and I’ve read what you have to say, and what you say does not prove that this is false, in fact it reestablishes it’s credibility. You increase Goku’s base weight that he can lift, so we increase the black hole to that of a white dwarf star, who’s to say what type of star it is? Unless you can show us a time that in his base form PRE TRAINING (because his calculation takes into effect his TRAINING) he lifted more than our equation says he lifted don’t even try because we will rerun the equation and come out with the same conclusion.
A white dwarf >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Black hole in mass
The tiniest fragment weighs a few billion pounds
Goku fucking slaughters Supes in everything
A white dwarf is a type of star, a black hole is a star who’s weight has been compressed into a small size. Black holes come in all shapes in sizes, if a white dwarf collapses it turns into a black hole that is the weight of what? A white dwarf. I win.
THE KING HAS RETURNED! | | | 28 Jan 2007 08:55 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 6Joined: 26 Sep 2006 Posts: 2,190 OFFLINE | derdev789 wrote:
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
derdev789 wrote:
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
derdev789 wrote:
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
derdev789 wrote:
k.
Post crisis superman held a small black whole using both of his hands. A small star is about 1708.8 times earth’s weight. (A star gets more massive when it becomes a black whole, but lets just pretend it doesn’t. Given that star size, a small black whole would be about the same weight.) That comes out to a whopping 10,208,712,960,000,000,000,000,000,000 kg, or 1.020871296 to the 28th power kg.
Goku’s strength:
Going by a link gplex gave me, goku’s estimated power during the cell saga, while in ssj, was 120,000,000. it was 15,000,000 in the freeza saga, so that means he got about 8 times stronger. Say he gets another 8 times stronger by the end of the buu saga. Now hes at 960,000,000, or 64 times stronger then he was in the freeza saga. Now, before the freeza saga, when he had a power level of 180,000 in base, he was able to lift about 40 tons. Now, lets translate all the ssj stats into base by dividing by 50 (he gets 50 times stronger when he goes to ssj) now, its 180,000 [before freeza saga], 300,000 [during freeza saga], 2,400,000 [during the cell saga], and 19,200,000 [during buu saga]. Add to that the 10 years of training. Now, seeing as he had no big enemies, he would not gain that fast. Lets just pretend he got stronger at about the same rate as gohan did when he was training with piccolo. That’s about 4 times a year. That’s now at 20,132,659,200,000 in base form. With ssj, he gets 50 times stronger. Lets say it is the same gap for each level. He is now at a power level of 2,516,582,400,000,000,000. That’s about 13,981,013,333,333 times stronger then when he lifted 40 tons. So, he would probably be able to lift about 559,240,533,333,320 tons. Now, remember the original 40 tons was under 100 times earth’s gravity. So, lets make it normal gravity. That’s 55,924,053,333,332,000 tons, or 5.073344778294492 to the 19th power kg. As you can see, he is still far weaker then post-crisis superman with his mental blocks still on is.
Goku can lift 5.5924053333332000 times 10 to the 16th KG
Supes can lift 1.020871296 times 10 to the 28th KG
That would make Superman around 10 to the 12th times stronger that Goku, that is 1 with 12 zero’s after it TIMES stronger than Goku. Game over.
I already disproved this bullshit, man
Everybody that posts here agree’s with this “bullshit” you just don’t believe it because it makes Goku weaker. Just because you SAY it isn’t true doesn’t make it so. You “disproved” nothing, because in order to disprove it, SOMEBODY has to agree with you.
...Go 2 Goku vs Supes...
I have, and I’ve read what you have to say, and what you say does not prove that this is false, in fact it reestablishes it’s credibility. You increase Goku’s base weight that he can lift, so we increase the black hole to that of a white dwarf star, who’s to say what type of star it is? Unless you can show us a time that in his base form PRE TRAINING (because his calculation takes into effect his TRAINING) he lifted more than our equation says he lifted don’t even try because we will rerun the equation and come out with the same conclusion.
A white dwarf >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Black hole in mass
The tiniest fragment weighs a few billion pounds
Goku fucking slaughters Supes in everything
A white dwarf is a type of star, a black hole is a star who’s weight has been compressed into a small size.
As is a white dwarf, oh wait a black hole’s matter...
Black holes come in all shapes in sizes, if a white dwarf collapses it turns into a black hole that is the weight of what?
...Matter
A white dwarf.
-.-
I win.
Nope
| | | 28 Jan 2007 09:44 pm |
King of MVC Rep: 26Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 8,558 OFFLINE | UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
derdev789 wrote:
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
derdev789 wrote:
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
derdev789 wrote:
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
derdev789 wrote:
k.
Post crisis superman held a small black whole using both of his hands. A small star is about 1708.8 times earth’s weight. (A star gets more massive when it becomes a black whole, but lets just pretend it doesn’t. Given that star size, a small black whole would be about the same weight.) That comes out to a whopping 10,208,712,960,000,000,000,000,000,000 kg, or 1.020871296 to the 28th power kg.
Goku’s strength:
Going by a link gplex gave me, goku’s estimated power during the cell saga, while in ssj, was 120,000,000. it was 15,000,000 in the freeza saga, so that means he got about 8 times stronger. Say he gets another 8 times stronger by the end of the buu saga. Now hes at 960,000,000, or 64 times stronger then he was in the freeza saga. Now, before the freeza saga, when he had a power level of 180,000 in base, he was able to lift about 40 tons. Now, lets translate all the ssj stats into base by dividing by 50 (he gets 50 times stronger when he goes to ssj) now, its 180,000 [before freeza saga], 300,000 [during freeza saga], 2,400,000 [during the cell saga], and 19,200,000 [during buu saga]. Add to that the 10 years of training. Now, seeing as he had no big enemies, he would not gain that fast. Lets just pretend he got stronger at about the same rate as gohan did when he was training with piccolo. That’s about 4 times a year. That’s now at 20,132,659,200,000 in base form. With ssj, he gets 50 times stronger. Lets say it is the same gap for each level. He is now at a power level of 2,516,582,400,000,000,000. That’s about 13,981,013,333,333 times stronger then when he lifted 40 tons. So, he would probably be able to lift about 559,240,533,333,320 tons. Now, remember the original 40 tons was under 100 times earth’s gravity. So, lets make it normal gravity. That’s 55,924,053,333,332,000 tons, or 5.073344778294492 to the 19th power kg. As you can see, he is still far weaker then post-crisis superman with his mental blocks still on is.
Goku can lift 5.5924053333332000 times 10 to the 16th KG
Supes can lift 1.020871296 times 10 to the 28th KG
That would make Superman around 10 to the 12th times stronger that Goku, that is 1 with 12 zero’s after it TIMES stronger than Goku. Game over.
I already disproved this bullshit, man
Everybody that posts here agree’s with this “bullshit” you just don’t believe it because it makes Goku weaker. Just because you SAY it isn’t true doesn’t make it so. You “disproved” nothing, because in order to disprove it, SOMEBODY has to agree with you.
...Go 2 Goku vs Supes...
I have, and I’ve read what you have to say, and what you say does not prove that this is false, in fact it reestablishes it’s credibility. You increase Goku’s base weight that he can lift, so we increase the black hole to that of a white dwarf star, who’s to say what type of star it is? Unless you can show us a time that in his base form PRE TRAINING (because his calculation takes into effect his TRAINING) he lifted more than our equation says he lifted don’t even try because we will rerun the equation and come out with the same conclusion.
A white dwarf >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Black hole in mass
The tiniest fragment weighs a few billion pounds
Goku fucking slaughters Supes in everything
A white dwarf is a type of star, a black hole is a star who’s weight has been compressed into a small size.
As is a white dwarf, oh wait a black hole’s matter...
Black holes come in all shapes in sizes, if a white dwarf collapses it turns into a black hole that is the weight of what?
...Matter
A white dwarf.
-.-
I win.
Nope
A black hole is a collapsed star, you need to bone up on your physics pal.
THE KING HAS RETURNED! | | | 28 Jan 2007 09:52 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 6Joined: 26 Sep 2006 Posts: 2,190 OFFLINE | derdev789 wrote:
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
derdev789 wrote:
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
derdev789 wrote:
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
derdev789 wrote:
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
derdev789 wrote:
k.
Post crisis superman held a small black whole using both of his hands. A small star is about 1708.8 times earth’s weight. (A star gets more massive when it becomes a black whole, but lets just pretend it doesn’t. Given that star size, a small black whole would be about the same weight.) That comes out to a whopping 10,208,712,960,000,000,000,000,000,000 kg, or 1.020871296 to the 28th power kg.
Goku’s strength:
Going by a link gplex gave me, goku’s estimated power during the cell saga, while in ssj, was 120,000,000. it was 15,000,000 in the freeza saga, so that means he got about 8 times stronger. Say he gets another 8 times stronger by the end of the buu saga. Now hes at 960,000,000, or 64 times stronger then he was in the freeza saga. Now, before the freeza saga, when he had a power level of 180,000 in base, he was able to lift about 40 tons. Now, lets translate all the ssj stats into base by dividing by 50 (he gets 50 times stronger when he goes to ssj) now, its 180,000 [before freeza saga], 300,000 [during freeza saga], 2,400,000 [during the cell saga], and 19,200,000 [during buu saga]. Add to that the 10 years of training. Now, seeing as he had no big enemies, he would not gain that fast. Lets just pretend he got stronger at about the same rate as gohan did when he was training with piccolo. That’s about 4 times a year. That’s now at 20,132,659,200,000 in base form. With ssj, he gets 50 times stronger. Lets say it is the same gap for each level. He is now at a power level of 2,516,582,400,000,000,000. That’s about 13,981,013,333,333 times stronger then when he lifted 40 tons. So, he would probably be able to lift about 559,240,533,333,320 tons. Now, remember the original 40 tons was under 100 times earth’s gravity. So, lets make it normal gravity. That’s 55,924,053,333,332,000 tons, or 5.073344778294492 to the 19th power kg. As you can see, he is still far weaker then post-crisis superman with his mental blocks still on is.
Goku can lift 5.5924053333332000 times 10 to the 16th KG
Supes can lift 1.020871296 times 10 to the 28th KG
That would make Superman around 10 to the 12th times stronger that Goku, that is 1 with 12 zero’s after it TIMES stronger than Goku. Game over.
I already disproved this bullshit, man
Everybody that posts here agree’s with this “bullshit” you just don’t believe it because it makes Goku weaker. Just because you SAY it isn’t true doesn’t make it so. You “disproved” nothing, because in order to disprove it, SOMEBODY has to agree with you.
...Go 2 Goku vs Supes...
I have, and I’ve read what you have to say, and what you say does not prove that this is false, in fact it reestablishes it’s credibility. You increase Goku’s base weight that he can lift, so we increase the black hole to that of a white dwarf star, who’s to say what type of star it is? Unless you can show us a time that in his base form PRE TRAINING (because his calculation takes into effect his TRAINING) he lifted more than our equation says he lifted don’t even try because we will rerun the equation and come out with the same conclusion.
A white dwarf >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Black hole in mass
The tiniest fragment weighs a few billion pounds
Goku fucking slaughters Supes in everything
A white dwarf is a type of star, a black hole is a star who’s weight has been compressed into a small size.
As is a white dwarf, oh wait a black hole’s matter...
Black holes come in all shapes in sizes, if a white dwarf collapses it turns into a black hole that is the weight of what?
...Matter
A white dwarf.
-.-
I win.
Nope
A black hole is a collapsed star, you need to bone up on your physics pal.
I know that but as it’s “compressed” it doesn’t necessarily increase weight as it’s matter and a lot less denser than a white dwarf.
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