Lord Selk Spardatory wrote:
... id love to see what research he has actually done, i mean i dont see any hardcore evidence in his favour at all.
That’s because you blindly refuse to look at the facts. You’d rather yell about how he is a fanboy than admit he has made any points. It’s how you argue and it’s really very petty and pathetic.
what points has he made to contribute to the argument derdev i mean really, my links supply solid fact of power speed and skill he however uses words and some logic to things we already no and makes claims without any backing, i can be petty and full of myself but i know what i know and i dont lie i would never say Vincent would win without a shadow of a doubt but Weiss was far supperior to Cloud in combat even you should know that.
and please stop jugeing me on who i am but what i say ok as ive already stated im happy to break the argument down and settle it that way Cid can give his proof and if hes right i can except that kk
Tenacious Kev wrote:
Cid it looks like you have done your research, but there is no point argueing with darkness about all this stuff
I’m done with the argument, everybody but Darkness knows that I’m right, so why should I continue an argument that I’ve already won? I don’t need to, I’ve proven my point and I’m done picking on little whiny kids.
Lord Selk Spardatory wrote:
my links supply solid fact of power speed and skill he however uses words and some logic to things we already no and makes claims without any backing
I find this hilarious, anybody who reads through the thread can see that everything in that quote is bullshit. The only thing you post are youtube videos, those cannot prove anything, and nobody here will agree that they do. A video is nothing but a clip from the game, sure you can post a clip of Vincent and Weiss' fight and post a video of Sephiroth and Cloud’s fight, but what does that do besides show people who haven’t seen them how awesome they are? Nothing, you can’t prove that Vincent is stronger by posting a video and saying his fighting is more impressive.
As for you saying that I don’t provide facts or backing, that’s also bullshit. In every post my claims and theories are either supported by an article from Wikipedia or backed by a statement made in the game, which is a lot more then you can say since you’ve only “backed up” your argument twice and both times your source was either wrong or only helped my argument.
Cid is one of the most talented arguers on this site. Darkness you are one of the most flawed and petty arguers on this site. I read the arguements. Cid’s make sense, Darkness your back to the old posting youtube videos thing which is sadly POINTLESS! You need actual in game dialogue, not movies of people fighting.
Lord Selk Spardatory wrote:
well am i wrong in thinking Vincent is way faster and stronger than Cloud in Chaos???
Lord Selk Spardatory wrote:
1. he would be all over Clouds ass like white on Rice
After watching Cloud dodge bullets in Advent Children and watching him keep up with Sephiroth I’d say they’d be about the same speed. And even if they’re not, don’t forget that they both have materia at their disposal which means Cloud could easily cast slow or even stop on Vincent if Vin was faster then Cloud.
Lord Selk Spardatory wrote:
2. his punch would probably knock his head of
Vincent hasn’t really shown any feats of inhuman strength outside his Galiant Beast form. Cloud’s punch might knock Vincent’s head off though, after all he can lift a 300 pound sword like it’s nothing.
Lord Selk Spardatory wrote:
3. his energy blasting flying and guns are all advantages that say he would win.
Sephiroth flew in Advent Children and Cloud was able to fight him by jumping, so Vin’s flying is rather useless.
Cloud dodges bullets in Advent Children just the same he fought skilled Soldier who used guns.
I don’t remember anything about Vincent using an Energy blast, but as I said I haven’t played the game in a while. Regardless, Reflect would bounce any energy blasts back at the caster.
Lord Selk Spardatory wrote:
can you say ownage boyzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
lol Vincent is way faster as seen in dirge and also has materia and still holds the advantage,
lmao Vincent normal form kicked a tiger over a cliff in dirge and sent huge riples across the planet when he attacked Omega, i think hed knock Clouds head of.
without buildings to jump to and fro from Cloud couldent reach him when hes flying, as we all no Vincent is a way better shot than those clones in A.C hes about as good with those guns as Cloud is a blade.
watch the links Vincent uses a death ray beam on Azul and his power is enourmouse.
yes i can spell ownage think you should get used to it tho.
Lord Selk Spardatory wrote:
lol Vincent is way faster as seen in dirge and also has materia and still holds the advantage,
Alright, but you failed to respond to the vital part of the argument. Vincent turn Chaos, Cloud casts stop and it’s over. From there Cloud could kill Vincent in any number of ways, and Vinny being trapped in a perpetual spell of paralysis can’t do a damn thing.
Lord Selk Spardatory wrote:
lmao Vincent normal form kicked a tiger over a cliff in dirge and sent huge riples across the planet when he attacked Omega, i think hed knock Clouds head of.
Vincent didn’t kick the Dark Nation over a cliff, it jumped at him he kicked it back and shot it full of lead where it landed on a rock spire, and Vincent only attacked Omega in his Chaos form, and I don’t remember seeing a view of the planet from space showing ripples echo across Gaia.
Cloud is stronger then Vincent is in his normal form. Chaos form I’m not sure about, but as I stated earlier, if Vin went Chaos Cloud would cast stop.
Lord Selk Spardatory wrote:
without buildings to jump to and fro from Cloud couldent reach him when hes flying, as we all no Vincent is a way better shot than those clones in A.C hes about as good with those guns as Cloud is a blade
Yeah, it’s true that Cloud jumped from buildings, but it’s also true that Sephiroth and Cloud were in mid air fighting with neither of them falling down.
Also, it doesn’t matter how good of a shot Vincent is, Cloud can move to the side or he could block the bullet with his sword.
Lord Selk Spardatory wrote:
watch the links Vincent uses a death ray beam on Azul and his power is enourmouse.
Once again you fail to respond to the part of my argument that meant something. Vincent’s death ray would be reflected back if Cloud casted Reflect, and a blast that powerful would probably kill Vincent.
Lord Selk Spardatory wrote:
yes i can spell ownage think you should get used to it tho.
OK, you can spell “ownage” which, by the way, isn’t even a real word. But that doesn’t change the fact that you’re still not winning the argument.
1. Vincent Chaos would pretty mutch doge stop, and be behind Cloud in a milisecond flat and cast it on Cloud you forget the first to react would get the move in.
2. i belive he did my freind, and watch my links he sent ripples across the earth with the shear force of his attack broke through Omega Barrior (something Cloud tried and failed) and destroyed it.
3.no buildings mean no clash means Vincent can take pot shots at cloud as mutch as he wants move to another location shoot him some more and keep doing that till cloud is overwelmed or just move really fast somewere and snipe him doing a Zack.
4. Chaos energy wont hurt Chaos as hes the controller, and to if a rocket launcher can break through Azuls near impenatrable barior then Chaos death beam would anialate it so a petty reflect would not work plus Vincent also has the materia.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0XGGZAUpk4
also this shows Vincent is gifted with a near indistructable body so bring it on Cloud
Awww poor little Darkness. Everybody dissagree’s with him so he has to move the arguement into here. Don’t you understand that we ALL agree you lost? You fail in this arguement. You make blind suppositions while Cid shows solid facts. Your arguements are petty and your “facts” are non-existance. In short, you fail at life.
Awww poor little Darkness. Everybody dissagree’s with him so he has to move the arguement into here. Don’t you understand that we ALL agree you lost? You fail in this arguement. You make blind suppositions while Cid shows solid facts. Your arguements are petty and your “facts” are non-existance. In short, you fail at life.
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