...soooo were douse it say Genasis is stronger than Weiss, or Omega Weapon.
as for Genasis yeah Seph mabe stronger but we have no idea how CC ends or what the hell is happening behind the scenes.
also it says here that Weiss and co are evolved states of the G-Program that gave birth to Genasis so Weiss is stronger but Genasis was using him for whatever perpose i dont no.
I disproved that other crap with what I just posted, however you failed to disprove what I said. Genesis was using Weiss as a scapegoat for his own plot, Genesis was stronger then Weiss. So what if Weiss was an evolution of the G-Project? You know what that means? Weiss is a Genesis Clone, Shin-Ra was carrying out the same thing they did with the Sephiroth Project with Genesis, if you had clicked on the Link I provided you’d have learned about the G-Clones. Weiss is just like Cloud, a clone of a stronger entity, and just like Cloud he’s weaker then the person he was “cloned” from.
Do you even know what Weiss truly is? I’m willing to bet that in the FF7 Sequel due out this year it will tell you one thing.
Genesis and Sephiroth are two sides of the same coin, they are almost completely different in every way. Seph’s wing is on his right shoulder, Genesis' on his left. Sephiroth is egotistical, Genesis isn’t. Seph and Genesis are two parts of a whole, Genesis needed Weiss dead, which is why he let what happened in DoC happen. He is going to use Weiss' body as a container to join both his and Sephiroth’s conscious together in order to create the ultimate warrior.
Why Weiss? Weiss is the perfect candidate, he was a former 1st class Soldier, and thus was treated with S-Cells and showered in Mako. He is also a Genesis Clone, possessing G-Cells, he is the combined product of both the Sephiroth and Genesis Projects.
whoa whoa WHOA slow your roll pal talk about over the top lol that sounds very cool it might happen it might not but there is nothing there to sugest Genasis is more powerful than Vice, (he stood over him and said we have work to do) wow im in awe already...comeon really we know next to nothing abot the guy or his motivation and i have some wild ideas of my own but there all easly disproveable like yours.
as for the clone thing,
1. hes a clone so hes weaker thats why Cloud beat Sephiroth?
2. hmmm Cloud a lowly MP who was a Failed SOLIDER god knows how mutch younger and had little to no training rose to beat Sephiroth a 1st class SOLIDER with years of extensive training was injected in the Womb with J-Cells and still lost.
3. so yeah Vice an EVOLVED member of the same experiment but it says nothing of him being a Clone besides no a true clone he like Cloud tho was born naturaly became a 1st Class SOLIDER then part of DG were he was subject to the experiment.
if you have anything that says Vice is a Clone and is weaker id back off till then i stick by that.
Ahaha, you actually made me laugh with that one, so you seem to think that Cloud was stronger then Sephiroth? If that was so then why is that Cloud cannot defeat Sephiroth on his own? In Advent Children Sephiroth had several chances to kill Cloud, yet he toyed with him. This Sephiroth wasn’t even as powerful as the original Sephiroth was and Cloud still could have been killed.
Every Clone in the FF7 series has been weaker then the one he was “cloned” after. All those numerous “black cloaked” figures and Cloud were indeed inferior to Sephiroth, he had to have the help of his friends to defeat him in the original game and in AC he had to catch Sephiroth off guard with the Omnislash V.5.
As for my proof of Weiss being a clone, I really hoped I wouldn’t have to go into detail. I had hoped that you’d be smart enough to put two and two together, but then again it can be rather cloudy if you don’t obsess over the franchise like I do. (lol)
Seriously though, it’s actually very simple. Take what Kadaj, Yazoo, and Loz called Cloud in Advent Children, they called him “brother” not because he was a biological brother, but rather he was a brother through Jenova. The three silver haired men were remnants of Sephiroth, they were more or less glorified Sephiroth Clones just like Cloud was.
When you think of it that way, if Genesis was a branch off the Sephiroth Project he is effectively the only successful Sephiroth Clone. Weiss, having undergone the Soldier treatment was also a Sephiroth Clone. So it only makes since that Weiss is “clone” because he was called brother by another “clone”.
The reason I say Weiss is a Genesis Clone though, is because he underwent not only the treatment of Sephiroth Clones, but also as a branch from the Genesis Project, underwent the treatment of the Genesis Clones.
If the trend continued, which I’m sure it did seeing as how Genesis is the next antagonist, Weiss should have been weaker just like every other Sephiroth Clone.
you misinterprit what im saying freind Cloud was weaker but he still has 2 victorys over his head.
Nero calls him brother 2 mabe anyone who is given G-Cells considers themselves related with that corseing in there vains, but Vice was hardly a remnant of Genasis also he like cloud merly underwent the prosedure he wasnt over glorified like Kadaj or the other two they were true clones copys mere reflections of Sephiroth nothing more Vice was his own person and has evolved beyond the Genasis project meaning hes superior and further developed like Sephiroth over Jeanova.
im not darkness but i will state that chaos is infact the imbodyment of corrupted/ deseased life stream materia is refined life stream so lesser life stream probly wont affect him to much i dont know whats up with the proto materia ps one final thing is that if it were a battle of materia then vincent would win as he is faster and would be able to cast stop or petrafacation first plus there are materia/items that silence petrafaction and stop
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im not darkness but i will state that chaos is infact the imbodyment of corrupted/ deseased life stream materia is refined life stream so lesser life stream probly wont affect him to much i dont know whats up with the proto materia ps one final thing is that if it were a battle of materia then vincent would win as he is faster and would be able to cast stop or petrafacation first plus there are materia/items that silence petrafaction and stop
Sephiroth is immune to that in the game.
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ok after reading more i ahve to say you both have points and mabe even cid has a little more evidence but i stuill vote for vincent over it all but through latters of how i see it it goes for villans anyways genesis < sephiroth witch is = to omega weiss that being said i think your aguments are awesome
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