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13 Feb 2007 10:38 pm
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You know if we just nuke them like we did to Japan then this would probably be over by now.
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13 Feb 2007 10:39 pm
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WWWWWMWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW wrote:
Deathspartan117 wrote: This thread was meant to be serious... JUST IN CASE you guys havent figured that out yet.


And Im serious to! we should round up all arabs and muslims and kill them! we should start with the ones on this site! loca moca is an arab AND a muslim! lets kill him!

how do you know if hes arab?
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13 Feb 2007 11:07 pm
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ramunematt wrote: You know if we just nuke them like we did to Japan then this would probably be over by now.


lol

Nuking would mean a full scale war, not an operation.
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13 Feb 2007 11:55 pm
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We need to stop playing police work in Iraq and start letting them run their own country. I mean at first it was none of our business at all to intervene in the affairs of another country. I mean we overthrew a government and installed a new one. I mean that is not only morrally wrong yet politically wrong. Think how many people have died just to take out a dictator who was threatening outside resources. And what we used a speculative attack by whoever on America as a reason to do this. Like while we there might as well do that as well.

This adminastration has oversteppd their boundaries and there will be some awful consequences in the decades to come. We should have never gone over there and I still don’t think we should have gone to Afghanistan with no proof of who even really did make the attacks on 9/11.

But aside from that we need to train the Iraqi military and get out of their. It is not our problem ever what happens in that country. Why should we continue to do that. Many people will start bringing up the bullshit of how awful these dictators are to their people but is that really any of our business to tell the how to rule their country. I mean from their point of view they think we are awful for how we run our country and when we hear that then obviously oh my god they hate America they are obviously in the wrong.

But even more hypocritical is that we go and intervene in countries with awful dictators like Iraq yet we don’t do it to other countries with these same problems. Reasons. No resources to protect, nothing to gain politically, and just can’t do anything about it. I mean why don’t we go help all those dying people in Africa who have suffered for so long. I’ll tell ya why there is no political, economical, or military reason too. There’s not natural resource to protect or gain or no military strategy in it. Yet it’s even worse there than in the Middle East. So much for trying to be humane and help everyone else. If they don’t help us out we won’t help them and when you think about it it’s terrible and hypocritical. Personally I think it’s none of our business what happens in other countries cause it would be hypocritical to do so. It’s not a decision of one country to change another’s. Should be a coalition of many to decide upon.

So also why don’t we say those chinese rulers are jsut awful and go and overthrow their goverment. I’ll tell you why we’d get our asses kicked. Why not NOrth Korea. Will get our asses nuked. America only messes with countries with natural resources and ones that can’t strike back. Cowardly yet somewhat smart.

But above the point train the Iraqi military and ensure they can run their government and return home.
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13 Feb 2007 11:57 pm
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Zucas wrote: We need to stop playing police work in Iraq and start letting them run their own country. I mean at first it was none of our business at all to intervene in the affairs of another country. I mean we overthrew a government and installed a new one. I mean that is not only morrally wrong yet politically wrong. Think how many people have died just to take out a dictator who was threatening outside resources. And what we used a speculative attack by whoever on America as a reason to do this. Like while we there might as well do that as well.

This adminastration has oversteppd their boundaries and there will be some awful consequences in the decades to come. We should have never gone over there and I still don’t think we should have gone to Afghanistan with no proof of who even really did make the attacks on 9/11.

But aside from that we need to train the Iraqi military and get out of their. It is not our problem ever what happens in that country. Why should we continue to do that. Many people will start bringing up the bullshit of how awful these dictators are to their people but is that really any of our business to tell the how to rule their country. I mean from their point of view they think we are awful for how we run our country and when we hear that then obviously oh my god they hate America they are obviously in the wrong.

But even more hypocritical is that we go and intervene in countries with awful dictators like Iraq yet we don’t do it to other countries with these same problems. Reasons. No resources to protect, nothing to gain politically, and just can’t do anything about it. I mean why don’t we go help all those dying people in Africa who have suffered for so long. I’ll tell ya why there is no political, economical, or military reason too. There’s not natural resource to protect or gain or no military strategy in it. Yet it’s even worse there than in the Middle East. So much for trying to be humane and help everyone else. If they don’t help us out we won’t help them and when you think about it it’s terrible and hypocritical. Personally I think it’s none of our business what happens in other countries cause it would be hypocritical to do so. It’s not a decision of one country to change another’s. Should be a coalition of many to decide upon.

So also why don’t we say those chinese rulers are jsut awful and go and overthrow their goverment. I’ll tell you why we’d get our asses kicked. Why not NOrth Korea. Will get our asses nuked. America only messes with countries with natural resources and ones that can’t strike back. Cowardly yet somewhat smart.

But above the point train the Iraqi military and ensure they can run their government and return home.

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13 Feb 2007 11:58 pm
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World War three will be with Iran, Iraq, and North Korea, and Syria, and Isrial, and the United States, and the United Kingdom.
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14 Feb 2007 12:01 am
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We can only help so many countries at once. We are only 1 country and if women are being raped, children abused, athletes having their feet cut off for losing we have every goddam right to do something. If we have the power to help and we don’t use it for what is right then we are just as much at fault.

Also, so what if we don’t get much benefit from Iraq? Does it really matter? No.

We had to go to the Middle East to fight terrorists because unlike in the U.S. terrorist attacks are everyday things in Europe and they are overrun with them so they can’t do shit about them.

It’s a part of life. Sometimes you just need to do something you don’t want to do.

Spiderman may be a movie but the phrase, “With great power comes great responsibility” is 100% true. If we walk pass an ally way and a guy is getting mugged what are we supposed to do? We are supposed to help the guy. Walking off is just like committing the crime yourself.
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14 Feb 2007 12:02 am
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Atta boiiii!
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14 Feb 2007 12:05 am
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How man times do I have to say that WE BOYCOTT ALL IRAQI OIL. There is no oil to take and the prices are proof. The oil companies have already been checked out among other related things and nothing has been found. We all know oil companies are greedy but the war has nothing to do with getting more oil.
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14 Feb 2007 12:06 am
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the21gamer wrote: We can only help so many countries at once. We are only 1 country and if women are being raped, children abused, athletes having their feet cut off for losing we have every goddam right to do something. If we have the power to help and we don’t use it for what is right then we are just as much at fault.

Also, so what if we don’t get much benefit from Iraq? Does it really matter? No.

We had to go to the Middle East to fight terrorists because unlike in the U.S. terrorist attacks are everyday things in Europe and they are overrun with them so they can’t do shit about them.

It’s a part of life. Sometimes you just need to do something you don’t want to do.

Spiderman may be a movie but the phrase, “With great power comes great responsibility” is 100% true. If we walk pass an ally way and a guy is getting mugged what are we supposed to do? We are supposed to help the guy. Walking off is just like committing the crime yourself.


Wait, I take that back. We have no goddam right to do something. We are OBLIGATED to do something.
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14 Feb 2007 12:07 am
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the21gamer wrote: How man times do I have to say that WE BOYCOTT ALL IRAQI OIL. There is no oil to take and the prices are proof. The oil companies have already been checked out among other related things and nothing has been found. We all know oil companies are greedy but the war has nothing to do with getting more oil.


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the21gamer wrote: How man times do I have to say that WE BOYCOTT ALL IRAQI OIL. There is no oil to take and the prices are proof. The oil companies have already been checked out among other related things and nothing has been found. We all know oil companies are greedy but the war has nothing to do with getting more oil.



Because we are not at war with Iraq anymore. But we still get killed over there. Technically the war ended in 2003.
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14 Feb 2007 12:10 am
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the21gamer wrote: How man times do I have to say that WE BOYCOTT ALL IRAQI OIL. There is no oil to take and the prices are proof. The oil companies have already been checked out among other related things and nothing has been found. We all know oil companies are greedy but the war has nothing to do with getting more oil.


You’re are blind!


Nope, I stated a fact and you don’t believe it. You prefer your government conspiracy theories. You sound like one yourself right now. We’re experimenting with new kind of energy. It’d be a waste for the government to waste time and men on oil when it becomes useless when new types of energy are used.
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14 Feb 2007 12:12 am
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Deathspartan117 wrote: I hear alot of crap about people wanting to take the troops out of Iraq. Thats bullshit... i mean first of all if you start a war, you finish it. And second of all, we came to Iraq with a purpose. We got rid of Saddam Hussein, replaced him with a new government, and now we are helping the new Iraqi government stabilize itself by training the Iraqi soldiers and police force.

Plus we have nukes, terrorists, and all kinds of shit out there that will easily screw up Israel. Backing out of the Middle East might save some lives, but in the long run its going to completely screw everything up.

If we leave the Middle East alot more innocent people in Iraq and in Israel will die because U.S. and British forces are no longer there to keep things stable until the government can handle the violence...

But i dont know really, there are many other reasons why i think we should keep our troops in there and maybe add more. We cant just leave insurgents and militants to blow everything up...

anyways what do you guys think. im interested to hear. if i am incorrect on anything above correct me.


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14 Feb 2007 12:14 am
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We’re wasting our time in Iraq though. Pulling out won’t do shit unless since we are just sitting there instead of actually helping put the government back together. Why don’t we give them our constitution and let them change anything they don’t like?
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14 Feb 2007 12:16 am
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Because they dont have religion tolerance. It would never work.
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14 Feb 2007 12:18 am
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We should have just giving it to them and then go one from there. The Shiites and Sunnis need to unite.
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the21gamer wrote:
ramunematt wrote: You know if we just nuke them like we did to Japan then this would probably be over by now.


lol

Nuking would mean a full scale war, not an operation.


Please, what are they going to do to us if there is a war? We have tons of nukes and troops at our disposal, not to mention new tech.
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14 Feb 2007 12:22 am
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ramunematt wrote:
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ramunematt wrote: You know if we just nuke them like we did to Japan then this would probably be over by now.


lol

Nuking would mean a full scale war, not an operation.


Please, what are they going to do to us if there is a war? We have tons of nukes and troops at our disposal, not to mention new tech.


lol

Too many innocents would be in the crossfire. Our morals are too high for something like that. A war needs to be between armies as much as possible.
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