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[Quote] #101
27 Feb 2007 10:41 pm
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My governement was not involved for if they were me and other people would storm Washing DC and kill the President and congress and the whole government and the United States would cease to exist and we would be tooken over hopfully by Canada but most likely Europe. If the United States fell then Canada, Mexico would fall too for over half of CAnada’s resources comes from the USA.

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27 Feb 2007 11:20 pm
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goldenraptor wrote: The main problem I see with the 9/11 conspiracy theory is getting thousands to agree on it. What I believe is that we were wrong all along; there was no proof Islamic extremists did that.

I believe it was planned, with years of planning, and on the final days somebody had initiated it.



The thing is tho GR that you don’t need thousands in on it to be able to get it done. People just do their jobs. Chain of command, in the US govt, military, intel is a very sacred thing. So even if people questioned their commanders why, they would be told, stuff like, “youre not here to think soldier” or “that’s an order”.

But, to get to your question. The thing is, when huge operations like this have to be planned, it’s only the highmost people in the Govt, CIA, etc who would know. They break down an operation into jobs, those jobs are broken down into roles and those into tasks. So you could have a particular job which requires arabs to be allowed into the airports. The people working the airports arent in on it. They’re just told from their supervisors (who arent in on it either) to go do this and that. The jet fighters stationed in virginia, only miles away from the plane heading to the pentagon, one of their commanders tells them stuff like 'we’ve got a directive from the chief of staff to fly north and east over the ocean, looking for this and that', the commanders and pilots arent in on it. They just follow orders. Also, the point is that they get hundreds of people to do the one role, or task, or they split the task into multiple pieces so that 5 different people are only pieces to the end task and dont have all the knowledge of what the end task is. Etc.

If anyone knows about military and intel, there are many really high officials and commanders and generals who aren’t in on everything, there’s a lot of levels of security classifications where only a very few people have access to certain info, and others have less, and others have even less etc.

So to get a big operation like this happening, you might only have a handful of politicians (bush, cheney, rumsfeld) in on it. You might have a handful of high secret op intel people who know about it, probably only a few military chiefs, the demolition team which may consist only of about 20 secret ops, and probably thats about all youd need. The thousands of people 'involved' or required to fullfil their tasks/roles/jobs would only see the one little jig-saw piece, theyd only have to just follow orders and the thing would go off.

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27 Feb 2007 11:27 pm
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Aaron McKay wrote: My governement was not involved for if they were me and othe people would storm to Washing DC and kill the President and congress and the whole government and the United Stated would cease to exist and we would be tooken over hopfully by Canada but most likely Europe. If the United States fell then Canada, Mexico would fall too for over half of CAnada’s resources comes from the USA.


Well thats what would happen sort of. Bring it on. Because it’s not America per se, or American people, or even a lot of American politicians, or officers etc who are guilty. It’s just this handful of neo-cons, worms in the apple, who are guilty.

Read back on your American history, not the stuff in books, but declassified documents etc, and you’ll find that conspiracies to commit murder, treason, etc within America by the US govt/intel, has happened plenty of times.

Pearl Harbor. Iran Contra. Watergate. Prescott Bush (CIA) funding Hitler/Nazis DURING ww2. Assassination of JFK and Bobby. WMD in Iraq. Etc.

Google operation northwoods. It was an operation devised in the 1960’s by the CIA to hijack American planes and fly them into American buildings, and trying to blame Castro on it, so that they could start a war with Cuba. It was denied for years. The documents classified etc. But it’s all been declassified and is on public records.

As far back as Jefferson and Franklin, when devising the Bill of Rights and the Constitution, often talked about creating a system that would protect Americans from Presidents guilty of Treason etc. Treason is not something new. There’s been lots of treason and conspiracy going on in American history since its earliest days.

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28 Feb 2007 12:06 am
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Even your history is abit misleadig and you know that
as well as i do.

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28 Feb 2007 12:20 am
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Here you go...video of the Pentagon strike....from two different camera angles.





Did you notice the missile?

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28 Feb 2007 12:28 am
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I never said it was a missile my Qustion still is
what happend to the plane because planes dont disitergrate.

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28 Feb 2007 01:02 am
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The NTSB, doing a report for the FBI, regarding the released flight recorder data from AA77 (that struck the pentagon) and released an animation detailing all its flight recorder data and its path.

This is a phone call to the NTSB regarding discrepancies in that data.



This is the flight animation and flight recorder data.



The discrepancies basically are....the official 9/11 commission said flight AA77 came in from the south side of the CITGO (now NEX) gas station, at an altitude of 40ft or so, therefore causing the light poles on that side to be downed. However, the NTSB official report to the FBI of the available AA77 flight recorder data, including animation, shows that AA77 actually was coming from the north side of the CITGO gas station, in a direction that was nowhere near the location of the downed light poles AND coming in at an altitude of 400ft or so.

Meaning...Flight AA77 never struck those poles, or any poles, because it was too high in the sky. Instead it flew over the pentagon and continued on across the Potamic River, escorted by a C-130 military water plane. The pilot of which has gone on record saying that’s what his orders were but wasn’t told why. Meanwhile, another craft, 40 feet low to the ground, coming from the south of the CITGO, was the one which struck the light poles and ...

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01 Mar 2007 06:13 am
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Another great and long video: 911 Mysteries



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01 Mar 2007 04:36 pm
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..cough....bullshit

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01 Mar 2007 07:33 pm
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Staring at you right in the face and your mind cannot deal with it. This is what happens when you put a political party ahead of seeking the truth.

You don’t even use your mind for what it’s intended for - thinking for itself, questioning what you’re told/sold. It’s like being a fanboy but worse, because it’s a serious thing.

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01 Mar 2007 07:37 pm
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Anyway, I’m not gonna debate you anymore, you carry on believing what you want (lies). But this thread and the information in it might help one or two or more people realize the truth. If I lose one (you) but help others, then that’s the point. Can’t enlighten them all.

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01 Mar 2007 07:51 pm
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You havent proven anything.

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01 Mar 2007 08:07 pm
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01 Mar 2007 08:16 pm
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And what comes out of that video after people watch it


“Fuck America”

“Burn the Americans”


I’m quoting this from the comment section.

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What about the people on board the hijacked planes?
If the passenger plane was not the one that hit the pentagon, wouldnt the passengers on that flight still be survivng?

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01 Mar 2007 10:41 pm
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Chykka Killer wrote: What about the people on board the hijacked planes?
If the passenger plane was not the one that hit the pentagon, wouldnt the passengers on that flight still be survivng?



Exactly I have looked everywhere for a pilot that lived and there wasent one. SO I dont know what gg is talking about.

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Terrorists still alive...you mustn’t be very good at Googling

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1559151.stm

http://www.welfarestate.com/911/

http://911myths.com/html/abdulaziz_al_omari_still_alive.html

http://911research.wtc7.net/disinfo/deceptions/identities.html

http://911review.org/Wiki/Flight77.shtml


And that’s just a few out of thousands of articles and news reports that you can find on the internet.

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Chykka Killer wrote: What about the people on board the hijacked planes?
If the passenger plane was not the one that hit the pentagon, wouldnt the passengers on that flight still be survivng?



No Boeing hit the Pentagon. The video above proves it. It’s like a missile/small craft. A boeing would be huge in that shot.

No Boeing crashed in Shanksville. Not one scrap of plane was found. Just a small hole in the ground. People reported hearing a missile. Every plane in America has serial number registration code identifiers on practically every piece of a plane. The serial number for Flight 93 (shanksville) is still active. Meaning it never crashed.

1. If it did crash, and they say it disintegrated into dust, then there would be no serial numbers left.

2. Even if there were any pieces/parts left they wouldn’t use those parts on other planes with all their own serial numbers. It defeats the purpose of that. Each plane has its own serial number. It’s still active.

3. An official US deaths registar says only 6 of the 50+ people on Flight 93 (Shanksville) are actually dead since 911. Meaning the other 45+ people are still alive....probably in witness protection, and scared/threatened not to talk or their family die.

4. This is a Fascist state. That’s what Fascism does. What GR’s excllent video is trying to tell you.

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02 Mar 2007 09:31 am
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gg wrote: Terrorists still alive...you mustn’t be very good at Googling

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1559151.stm

http://www.welfarestate.com/911/

http://911myths.com/html/abdulaziz_al_omari_still_alive.html

http://911research.wtc7.net/disinfo/deceptions/identities.html

http://911review.org/Wiki/Flight77.shtml


And that’s just a few out of thousands of articles and news reports that you can find on the internet.




First off half of those are bullshit sites...I mean come on Wikipedia..the only good site you listed was the BBC one.

Second off did you even read the article it says these “guys” claim to be those people and that their identy were mistaken for somebody else. How does that have to do with George Bush blowing up the twin towers? See my point exactly.

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gg, so u think that the passengers on board the flight that supposedly hit the pentagon are being threatened/silenced?

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