2. hmm you know the same thing could be said about anyone in DBZ lol.
3. why so little answers.
4. hmmm and how do we know its a fraction, in any case blowing a whole in the moon and wipeing out half a planet...thats like a billionth of Gohan Goku Gotenks or many members of the Z force Roshi did it for crying out load.
5. you know something ill look myself and as for the whole anyone votes for DBZ thing mabe some people have a differance in oppinion, like i see it as Tenchi god bless his soul could never and i mean NEVER scratch let alone touch Gohan with such little power, u realize Roshi wiped out the moon power level 130 bp thats the moon kk now the last known power level would be Freizas who in second form was over 1 million bp obviously double his preiviouse form then 3rd is 2 million and 4rth is 4 million he says hes only been fighting Goku at 1 percent of his maximum and powers up to 50 percent witch is 200 Million then 100 percent witch is 400 Million bp can u see the increase then theres Trunks who beat an improved Freiza Goku who was even more powerful than Trunks and so forth through 4yrs more training and 7yrs his potentiol being unlocked u get the picture.
6. so why not Anime DBZ weres the Manga Tenchi OVA second Season?
7. i proved they have the powers of creation what more do u need and if not the Kais (who dont appear in the Manga and could quight easily have that sort of power due to Supream Kais lack of Knolage) dident do it who did lol, still awaiting the rift.
Shadow Master wrote:
2. hmm you know the same thing could be said about anyone in DBZ lol.
Except in DBZ Goku needs a ki signal.Don’t know about the kais.
Shadow Master wrote:
3. why so little answers.
What are you talking about?I always answer your questions.
Shadow Master wrote:
4. hmmm and how do we know its a fraction, in any case blowing a whole in the moon and wipeing out half a planet...thats like a billionth of Gohan Goku Gotenks or many members of the Z force Roshi did it for crying out load.
Look at him.Does that look like the face of a person trying.He did it with a fraction of his power and without even trying.
Shadow Master wrote:
5. you know something ill look myself and as for the whole anyone votes for DBZ thing mabe some people have a differance in oppinion, like i see it as Tenchi god bless his soul could never and i mean NEVER scratch let alone touch Gohan with such little power, u realize Roshi wiped out the moon power level 130 bp thats the moon kk now the last known power level would be Freizas who in second form was over 1 million bp obviously double his preiviouse form then 3rd is 2 million and 4rth is 4 million he says hes only been fighting Goku at 1 percent of his maximum and powers up to 50 percent witch is 200 Million then 100 percent witch is 400 Million bp can u see the increase then theres Trunks who beat an improved Freiza Goku who was even more powerful than Trunks and so forth through 4yrs more training and 7yrs his potentiol being unlocked u get the picture.
I mean thats good and all but you do realize that most of this is human Tenchi:He is both an anomaly and a manifestion of a hyperdimensional being superior to the Choushins (the 3 greatest goddess of the universe). In his human form he is capable of material conversion with his Ko-Oh-Yuko (Light Hawk Wings)
-Because Material conversion he is truly inmortal. He can recreate himself as many times as he want.
-He can transform energy to matter and viceversa at will.
-He can control the Ko-Oh-Yuko...the most powerful energy of the universe.
-He can pretty much cancel any injure (Kagato cut him by half and he regenerate in an instant.
-In Ova 11 or 12 he changed the gravitational constant of the universe to destroy a Black Hole....Screw Hulk who open a black hole....Tenchi cancelled a Black Hole changing the physical laws of the whole universe.
-In the new ovas he transformed in Kami-Sama Tenchi....an allpowerful being superior to the 3 choushins....He easily stoped the choushin war....(the initial clash between Tsunami and Tokimi, two choushin destroyed thousand of galaxies...then they reset the time and bring back of the universe to the normally.....Kami Tenchi stoped both of them easily.
Kami Sama Tenchi can do anything.Infact why am I debating this?I saw a thread with Kami Sama Tenchi vs Vegito and pretty much everyone said Tenchi.
Shadow Master wrote:
6. so why not Anime DBZ weres the Manga Tenchi OVA second Season?
Thats the thing though.Tenchi anime is canon because the manga is adapted from it.This isn’t the case with DBZ.
Shadow Master wrote:
7. i proved they have the powers of creation what more do u need and if not the Kais (who dont appear in the Manga and could quight easily have that sort of power due to Supream Kais lack of Knolage) dident do it who did lol,
The big bang?I don’t know you have to prove it.He recreated his planet compare a planet to the universe.
this kinda settles it those so called creators wiped out a section of a galaxy pretty fast but they did not however wipe out the whole galaxy like Brolly hence any of the people you have placed Z against could pretty mutch obliterate him in terms of power.
you can ignore it all u like but its sad but true ^
Shadow Master wrote:
this kinda settles it those so called creators wiped out a section of a galaxy pretty fast but they did not however wipe out the whole galaxy like Brolly hence any of the people you have placed Z against could pretty mutch obliterate him in terms of power.
Do you not understand that Brolly is non-canon.Also they did that from just their FIST colliding.Brolly had to fire a blast.Tell me when has someone in DBZ showed themselves to be so strong a mere movement could cause a rift?
Shadow Master wrote:
you can ignore it all u like but its sad but true ^
Whatever if you want to live in your world where DBZ is the strongest fine with me.
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3. not really hes doing it out of spite i dunno about trying but he could probably nail Tenchi with less power than he used there so what douse it matter.
4. Z is a god??? and were douse he or anyone in that series think someone out of existence...and yeah your reply says alot you could have just said yes they are way more powerful.
5. u use Manga ill use Manga u use Anime ill use Anime if your so confident its the same it shouldent make a diffeance.
6. thats kinda all he needed and what about he makes it bigger of Grand Kais Planet witch has a Galaxy in his house he uses for a stadium?
1. Brolly was obviously not trying he still was being controlled by his father peragus and hadent turned Legendery yet that just shows how mutch more powerful the Z fighters have become, and riple or shock wave?
Shadow Master wrote:
1. i was on about prefering to fly lol
And while they can fly they haven’t shown to be able to fly as fast as Z.
Shadow Master wrote:
2. well what did i origenaly ask u here lol
Zs powers,the powers of the Chousin,the rift thing,etc.
Shadow Master wrote:
3. not really hes doing it out of spite i dunno about trying but he could probably nail Tenchi with less power than he used there so what douse it matter.
No he’s doing it just for the hell of it.He wants to kill Tenchi who has the same powers as him.
Shadow Master wrote:
4. Z is a god??? and were douse he or anyone in that series think someone out of existence...and yeah your reply says alot you could have just said yes they are way more powerful.
Z is an anomaly meaning he surpasses the Chousin and therefore was a candidate to become a god.When I said that I was referring to Tenchi.As for the thinking out of existence do you know what an omnipotent is?Its a person with so much power they can do whatever they want,Tenchi becomes that in the end.
Shadow Master wrote:
5. u use Manga ill use Manga u use Anime ill use Anime if your so confident its the same it shouldent make a diffeance.
Uhh,whats so hard to understand?The DBZ anime isn’t canon and is an adaption with changes the Tenchi anime came first so it is the official canon the manga is an adaption with alot of changes.
Shadow Master wrote:
6. thats kinda all he needed and what about he makes it bigger of Grand Kais Planet witch has a Galaxy in his house he uses for a stadium?
Grand Kai,South Kai,East Kai,and West Kai are non-canon.Same for most of the Kaoishins.
?The sisters were fighting,their fists collided and from a mere collision they destroyed a large portion of the Milky way they were going to keep on fighting but the third sister told them to stop because it would cause a rift in the universe.
Shadow Master wrote:
1. Brolly was obviously not trying he still was being controlled by his father peragus and hadent turned Legendery yet that just shows how mutch more powerful the Z fighters have become, and riple or shock wave?
Prove it.I’ve heard from alot of others we didn’t even see Brolly destroy the galaxy.Yet again it doesn’t matter since movies don’t count.
Shadow Master wrote:
2. wellll it is true thats the score
DBZ is far from the strongest.Saint Seiya has characters that can beat them,Tenchi verse beats them,Space Runaway Ideon beats them, and so many others.
Shadow Master wrote:
1. true but they dont breath in space do they lol and Gotenks probably could if you saw how fast he moved in SSJ1 then picture 3.
The Gotenks thing I don’t like to use.He said he circled the globe a couple dozen times and took a nap without us actually getting an accurate time or anything.
Shadow Master wrote:
2. and what do i get...
I don’t know.
Shadow Master wrote:
3. its still kinda way below DBZ power tho
Uh,why is it that you think this?I’ve talked to even die hard DBZ fans about this and they even agree DBZ loses.
Shadow Master wrote:
4. once again im forced to ask for a link of some sort dear god any will do, Tenchi all Obnipitent and Z stronger than those creator chicks.
Shadow Master wrote:
5. well in that Case so is GT to the Manga
GT ain’t canon.
Shadow Master wrote:
6. ignored i see dousent change the truth
WTF are you saying?They aren’t canon so the events your using aren’t either.
Shadow Master wrote:
7. cool thats nice.
Whatever.
Shadow Master wrote:
8. Ignored
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RsmcpzmXQ0
well that shows Brolly wiped out the Galaxy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoiVJYoJ6bQ
this clearly shows Brolly not even Legendary till the end Fight hows that for obnipatence.
One you don’t really have any proof he did it with one blast.It could have taken him mouths to do it.Two you didn’t even see him so you don’t know what form he was in.Three you obviously have no idea what omnipotence is.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnipotent
Shadow Master wrote:
9. mwha i never said DBZ was all powerfull im just saying the people youve chosen to fight Z are far beyind him in power.
3. obviously they a, arnt true fans b, have compeared Powers
4. nothing about all powerful God in there?
5. but it exists dam i hate that i just sed that forget it
6. u know im going to use the Anime so why even bother lol
7. ...
8. annnnnnnnd what douse that have to do with Tenchi you have to show someone saying hes Obnipitent, also the brolly thing did happen all at once King Kai was worried that theres was next he wouldent have been that worried if it was 1 planet at a time hell Goku could do that, and you wanna talk about using a fraction of 1s power remember that puny Ki Blast Brolly shot at that planet and it went BOOM thats no effort takeing the whole thing.
Shadow Master wrote:
3. obviously they a, arnt true fans b, have compeared Powers
So just because they don’t think DBZ is the strongest they aren’t true fans.Maybe they just can see the light.Z moves faster than them,is stronger than him,can take more than them(his LHWs negate all damage to 0)and so much more.
Shadow Master wrote:
4. nothing about all powerful God in there?
I guess you missed where I told you he was an ANOMLY which means he surpasses the three.
Shadow Master wrote:
6. u know im going to use the Anime so why even bother lol
If thats the case your vote is null. But whatever even if you do it doesn’t help.
Shadow Master wrote:
8. annnnnnnnd what douse that have to do with Tenchi you have to show someone saying hes Obnipitent,
Where does the B come from?
Shadow Master wrote:
also the brolly thing did happen all at once King Kai was worried that theres was next he wouldent have been that worried if it was 1 planet at a time hell Goku could do that, and you wanna talk about using a fraction of 1s power remember that puny Ki Blast Brolly shot at that planet and it went BOOM thats no effort takeing the whole thing.
No I don’t because I stopped liking DBZ years ago.Whatever Brolly could fire a galaxy destroying blast it doesn’t matter since LHWs negate all damage to 0.
whats to stop a good old Kamehameha straight to the face with all that power i think the power to wipe out a galaxy and more would go straight through the LHW like Zs attacks go through those Spaceships may i ask from instant Translo or Goku teliporting next to him and punching him in the face ouch Tenchis good but his enderance is pretty mutch human.
Shadow Master wrote:
whats to stop a good old Kamehameha straight to the face
The fact that the LWHS negate all damage to 0.
Shadow Master wrote:
with all that power i think the power to wipe out a galaxy and more would go straight through the LHW like Zs attacks go through those Spaceships
The only thing that can counter LHWs are LHWs.
Shadow Master wrote:
may i ask from instant Translo or Goku teliporting next to him and punching him in the face ouch Tenchis good but his enderance is pretty mutch human.
What part of negates all damage to 0 do you not understand?
This is not really fair... ...You’re expecting them to fight a fucking omnipotent being who’s more powerful than the trio. Make it Goku, Vegeta, Supes, MM, Naruto, Sauske, Aang, The Emporer, and Hulk against this guy to make it fair or you could just use Bastard!
ok ok after mutch research ive decided...the light Hawke wings reduce all dameage to 0 and reduce all defence to 0 no matter what so strenth and endurance mean nothing plus speed obviously dousent because the LHW arm before an attack can be made plus Tenchi cant really die due to being able to recreate himself as many times as he wants, if this is the same for Z in all aspects then i concur the match to Z...But take away the whole Damage and deffence aspect and the Z fighters own.
Shadow Master wrote:
ok ok after mutch research ive decided...the light Hawke wings reduce all dameage to 0 and reduce all defence to 0 no matter what so strenth and endurance mean nothing plus speed obviously dousent because the LHW arm before an attack can be made plus Tenchi cant really die due to being able to recreate himself as many times as he wants, if this is the same for Z in all aspects then i concur the match to Z...But take away the whole Damage and deffence aspect and the Z fighters own.
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