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05 Mar 2007 10:22 pm
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well here is the live version

kind of annoying at first
because the guy asks them to stop
and keeps yelling stop

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05 Mar 2007 10:24 pm
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I think the whites are the most descriminates against...I mean come on we call everyone colored and us white and the compair every human being agaist a white....We are caucasian, there are black people, mexicans, and so on. Blacks are not better then whites...whites arent better then blacks.

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if you like the song i could email it too you

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05 Mar 2007 10:27 pm
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Aaron McKay wrote:
Online Predator wrote: 1. It is giving colored people extra points and such in college and has caused some white people that have worked hard and gotten good grades to be rejected to make room for some colored person who didn’t have better grades and such.

2. They should go to the bottom of the problem, which is in early elementary school and is the individual, NOT the race. They should teach them and support them correctly instead of just lowering standards for them.

3. By lowering standards for certain races it is flat out racism. Lifting one above the other like such is racism.

4. Lowering standards for somebody because of their race is bullshit.

5. College needs to go by minds and brains, NOT race.

6. Jobs need to go by who is better fit, NOT by race.

7. By giving the colored people a boost and lowering the standards for them it saying they are stupid. Bullshit.



I so agree with you. Why do freaking black people get scholorships just because of their race. We dont owe black people shit! YEs their ancesters were treated badly but they are dead now this is a new generation I dident own slaves, my dad dident, my grandpa dident, my great grandpa dident, my great great grandpa dident, and my great great great grandpa dident. That almost two century’s ago so I dont know what they are yelling about...hell black people made white people into slaves in Africa. I think it is racist for them to get money from the government solely for the fact that they are black.



There is my two cents.


If I had doubts before, I don’t have any anymore. Aaron, not to flat-out call you dumb, but did you ever think that just maybe, there are actually some schools where if not forced to, a black person who actually had HIGHER grades than the white person might not get in simply because of his skin color? Or do you think that any black young male who gets into college with the aid of affirmative action is a dumbshit who shouldn’t be going there? While there are cases where colored people may be getting in simply because of the color of their skin... this doesn’t even happen that often!

And about your other comment... while I as a black person do agree that black people who are still up in arms over slaver should stop whining about the past and start focusing on the future, THERE are PLENTY of things for black people to grope about RIGHT NOW. Whether it be the dirt-poor industrial slums that are known as the Bronx or the “suburban” hell-hole that is East Saint Louis, there are many, many black people living FAR below the poverty line. It’s almost as if their being transported back in time (in terms of acceptable living conditions).

There are countless systems which exclude people based on race, including jury duty in the case of a minority. While people say that a black jury would obviously be prejudiced in the case of a black felon, do they ever stop and think about how its normal for an entirely white jury to preside over a WHITE felon?

moral questions like this hamper the system, and education is no exception.

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05 Mar 2007 10:27 pm
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car dice13 wrote: if you like the song i could email it too you


Not that bad a song just not my taste though.

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05 Mar 2007 10:28 pm
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yeah not really mine either
but it has a good message

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05 Mar 2007 10:29 pm
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car dice13 wrote: yeah not really mine either
but it has a good message


Yep.

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05 Mar 2007 10:30 pm
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Weird____Guy wrote:
Aaron McKay wrote:
Online Predator wrote: 1. It is giving colored people extra points and such in college and has caused some white people that have worked hard and gotten good grades to be rejected to make room for some colored person who didn’t have better grades and such.

2. They should go to the bottom of the problem, which is in early elementary school and is the individual, NOT the race. They should teach them and support them correctly instead of just lowering standards for them.

3. By lowering standards for certain races it is flat out racism. Lifting one above the other like such is racism.

4. Lowering standards for somebody because of their race is bullshit.

5. College needs to go by minds and brains, NOT race.

6. Jobs need to go by who is better fit, NOT by race.

7. By giving the colored people a boost and lowering the standards for them it saying they are stupid. Bullshit.



I so agree with you. Why do freaking black people get scholorships just because of their race. We dont owe black people shit! YEs their ancesters were treated badly but they are dead now this is a new generation I dident own slaves, my dad dident, my grandpa dident, my great grandpa dident, my great great grandpa dident, and my great great great grandpa dident. That almost two century’s ago so I dont know what they are yelling about...hell black people made white people into slaves in Africa. I think it is racist for them to get money from the government solely for the fact that they are black.



There is my two cents.


If I had doubts before, I don’t have any anymore. Aaron, not to flat-out call you dumb, but did you ever think that just maybe, there are actually some schools where if not forced to, a black person who actually had HIGHER grades than the white person might not get in simply because of his skin color? Or do you think that any black young male who gets into college with the aid of affirmative action is a dumbshit who shouldn’t be going there? While there are cases where colored people may be getting in simply because of the color of their skin... this doesn’t even happen that often!

And about your other comment... while I as a black person do agree that black people who are still up in arms over slaver should stop whining about the past and start focusing on the future, THERE are PLENTY of things for black people to grope about RIGHT NOW. Whether it be the dirt-poor industrial slums that are known as the Bronx or the “suburban” hell-hole that is East Saint Louis, there are many, many black people living FAR below the poverty line. It’s almost as if their being transported back in time (in terms of acceptable living conditions).

There are countless systems which exclude people based on race, including jury duty in the case of a minority. While people say that a black jury would obviously be prejudiced in the case of a black felon, do they ever stop and think about how its normal for an entirely white jury to preside over a WHITE felon?

moral questions like this hamper the system, and education is no exception.


YEah but white people dont have the same scholorship as black people. There is alot of white people in poverty too and for them to deny them because they are not black is wrong.

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05 Mar 2007 10:31 pm
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Weird____Guy wrote:
Aaron McKay wrote:
Online Predator wrote: 1. It is giving colored people extra points and such in college and has caused some white people that have worked hard and gotten good grades to be rejected to make room for some colored person who didn’t have better grades and such.

2. They should go to the bottom of the problem, which is in early elementary school and is the individual, NOT the race. They should teach them and support them correctly instead of just lowering standards for them.

3. By lowering standards for certain races it is flat out racism. Lifting one above the other like such is racism.

4. Lowering standards for somebody because of their race is bullshit.

5. College needs to go by minds and brains, NOT race.

6. Jobs need to go by who is better fit, NOT by race.

7. By giving the colored people a boost and lowering the standards for them it saying they are stupid. Bullshit.



I so agree with you. Why do freaking black people get scholorships just because of their race. We dont owe black people shit! YEs their ancesters were treated badly but they are dead now this is a new generation I dident own slaves, my dad dident, my grandpa dident, my great grandpa dident, my great great grandpa dident, and my great great great grandpa dident. That almost two century’s ago so I dont know what they are yelling about...hell black people made white people into slaves in Africa. I think it is racist for them to get money from the government solely for the fact that they are black.



There is my two cents.


If I had doubts before, I don’t have any anymore. Aaron, not to flat-out call you dumb, but did you ever think that just maybe, there are actually some schools where if not forced to, a black person who actually had HIGHER grades than the white person might not get in simply because of his skin color? Or do you think that any black young male who gets into college with the aid of affirmative action is a dumbshit who shouldn’t be going there? While there are cases where colored people may be getting in simply because of the color of their skin... this doesn’t even happen that often!

And about your other comment... while I as a black person do agree that black people who are still up in arms over slaver should stop whining about the past and start focusing on the future, THERE are PLENTY of things for black people to grope about RIGHT NOW. Whether it be the dirt-poor industrial slums that are known as the Bronx or the “suburban” hell-hole that is East Saint Louis, there are many, many black people living FAR below the poverty line. It’s almost as if their being transported back in time (in terms of acceptable living conditions).

There are countless systems which exclude people based on race, including jury duty in the case of a minority. While people say that a black jury would obviously be prejudiced in the case of a black felon, do they ever stop and think about how its normal for an entirely white jury to preside over a WHITE felon?

moral questions like this hamper the system, and education is no exception.


They should should make standards for all races equal and fine those damned racist bastards that reject people for their color.

AA does not do that, it only switches the colored people with the white people.

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05 Mar 2007 10:32 pm
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Online Predator wrote: 1. It is giving colored people extra points and such in college and has caused some white people that have worked hard and gotten good grades to be rejected to make room for some colored person who didn’t have better grades and such.

2. They should go to the bottom of the problem, which is in early elementary school and is the individual, NOT the race. They should teach them and support them correctly instead of just lowering standards for them.

3. By lowering standards for certain races it is flat out racism. Lifting one above the other like such is racism.

4. Lowering standards for somebody because of their race is bullshit.

5. College needs to go by minds and brains, NOT race.

6. Jobs need to go by who is better fit, NOT by race.

7. By giving the colored people a boost and lowering the standards for them it saying they are stupid. Bullshit.



this is alot like getting a scholarship to be a teacher where i live...if your any onther race but white, your more likely to get to be teacher.......man....the system sucks......

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05 Mar 2007 10:34 pm
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Silent Pyramid wrote:
Online Predator wrote: 1. It is giving colored people extra points and such in college and has caused some white people that have worked hard and gotten good grades to be rejected to make room for some colored person who didn’t have better grades and such.

2. They should go to the bottom of the problem, which is in early elementary school and is the individual, NOT the race. They should teach them and support them correctly instead of just lowering standards for them.

3. By lowering standards for certain races it is flat out racism. Lifting one above the other like such is racism.

4. Lowering standards for somebody because of their race is bullshit.

5. College needs to go by minds and brains, NOT race.

6. Jobs need to go by who is better fit, NOT by race.

7. By giving the colored people a boost and lowering the standards for them it saying they are stupid. Bullshit.



this is alot like getting a scholarship to be a teacher where i live...if your any onther race but white, your more likely to get to be teacher.......man....the system sucks......


Yeah, hopefully it will be fixed soon.

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05 Mar 2007 10:36 pm
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Not to burst your bubble, but its not like there’s a shortage of white college students. Black students, on the other hand... while the college attendance rate has improved, it is FAR below the rate of white people. So, maybe the government actually has good reasons to boost it up?

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Online Predator wrote:
Zirnitra wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
Zirnitra wrote: How you can see the racism in one thing and not another is beyond me.


White man>>>>Gate is not lowered for him, he must get through himself.>>>>Succeeds.

Black man>>>>Gate is lower for him because he is black.>>>>Succeeds but soon fails later on because one day the it is not lowered for him.

White man>>>>Gate is not lowered and he is not allowed in to make room for a black man just because the man is black.>>>>Fails because they won’t let him in.


black man>gets his degree>does not get hired because the man in charge doesn’t want a black man.

Or is that what you want you racist sow?


AA turns that around so the white man is rejected and the black man accepted for race.

Now if someone wants to go by race they should be sued and what ever else is needed, NOT have AA passed so that black and whites switch places.


White people still get accepted because employers usually favor white people. What part of that do you not get?

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Same goes for diversity of teachers. Your average teacher is straight & white.

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Zirnitra wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
Zirnitra wrote:
Online Predator wrote:
Zirnitra wrote: How you can see the racism in one thing and not another is beyond me.


White man>>>>Gate is not lowered for him, he must get through himself.>>>>Succeeds.

Black man>>>>Gate is lower for him because he is black.>>>>Succeeds but soon fails later on because one day the it is not lowered for him.

White man>>>>Gate is not lowered and he is not allowed in to make room for a black man just because the man is black.>>>>Fails because they won’t let him in.


black man>gets his degree>does not get hired because the man in charge doesn’t want a black man.

Or is that what you want you racist sow?


AA turns that around so the white man is rejected and the black man accepted for race.

Now if someone wants to go by race they should be sued and what ever else is needed, NOT have AA passed so that black and whites switch places.


White people still get accepted because employers usually favor white people. What part of that do you not get?


Then sue and pass a law that heavily fines their goddam asses. What part of that do you not get?

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05 Mar 2007 10:39 pm
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Weird____Guy wrote: Not to burst your bubble, but its not like there’s a shortage of white college students. Black students, on the other hand... while the college attendance rate has improved, it is FAR below the rate of white people. So, maybe the government actually has good reasons to boost it up?


No, they should teach them at an early age about where they can get with school and so on. They need to support then in that way. Then they will get better grades over time and more will be in college.

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whatever system is thrown at people, i suppose not every one will like it, i’m just sick of this racism crap going around and how african americans(not all, only a few) still go on about how their ancestors were treated...grow up people, we don’t have slaves anymore(legally) so why bother hating...i feel bad that people did that in the past, but thats what happened, besides not every white person owned a slave and not all slaves were coloured, this hate for the past is just stupid and people need to live in the present....

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I agree.

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yeah that was my two-bit....

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Online Predator wrote:
Weird____Guy wrote: Not to burst your bubble, but its not like there’s a shortage of white college students. Black students, on the other hand... while the college attendance rate has improved, it is FAR below the rate of white people. So, maybe the government actually has good reasons to boost it up?


No, they should teach them at an early age about where they can get with school and so on. They need to support then in that way. Then they will get better grades over time and more will be in college.


if only it were that simple... many black children who grow up in poverty-stricken neighborhoods are not taught the value of education by their parents because the parents themselves never had a reason to develop that value. As such, the children follow in the footsteps of their parents and as soon as their out of high-school, dismiss school as having been a waste of their youth. This is partly due to the fact that our culture tells them that all a black male can do to stand out is to become a rapper, gangster, etc.

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