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22 Mar 2007 05:42 pm
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We all have heard about evolution. I believe it happened, but the big bang, and all of that, no. I believe that god created earth, with the little orginisms he had in mind when he made earth. He set theses single celled orginisms to one day be man, and one day be what the world is. On Galapagos, there are several animals there, but no where else on earth. God made Galapagos happen, and he put the cells there to become the animals they are. God doesn’t just straight up create the animals and leave it that way, he makes the living creatures we have on earth with evolution of single celled orginisms. In this way, he makes our life less noticible of incredible happenings.

Evolution isn’t just little orginisms out of no where, that can’t happen. There would have to be a greater power out there to have made these animals, these plants, fungus, disease, he made them for a reason, to make earth our roaming grounds. He made earth, for us, it is a gift, we need to respect it. He wanted evolution for the fact of different stages on earth, to see what can live on what the earth is.

God may be the scientist, we might be his subjects. He might just want to see what a humans effects on earth is. Then, after the human race dies out, he might create another universe, with a different amount of galaxies, with different galaxies, elements, as the variable of the original single celled organisms we started out as.

I myself, never believed in evolution until i started to watch Gallapagos on the history channel. There is an evolution, and god wanted this evolution to happen.
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22 Mar 2007 05:45 pm
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Genesis 1:23-27
24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that [it was] good.
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
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22 Mar 2007 05:48 pm
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car dice13 wrote: Genesis 1:23-27
24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that [it was] good.
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

i never really understood the bible, but it has inspired for my own beliefs. God was the beginning of time and matter. God was the start of whats here but doesn’t exist. God is the beginning, only his creations will be the end.
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22 Mar 2007 05:53 pm
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car dice13 wrote: Genesis 1:23-27
24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that [it was] good.
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

What you’re saying is...since it’s in a book...it’s automatically true...?
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22 Mar 2007 05:55 pm
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well if he believes christianity then he should believe the bible
but if your atheist it means nothing
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22 Mar 2007 06:02 pm
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car dice13 wrote: well if he believes christianity then he should believe the bible
but if your atheist it means nothing

i was a baptised methodist, and i believe in god, i believe in jesus, i believe god created the earth, i believe god created us, but i don’t believe he created us the way we are now. He created us so evolution can take its toll.
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22 Mar 2007 06:05 pm
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ya, um, evelution is retarded. random mutations do not improve a race overall. it can make them slightly more adaptable, but its never a big change. also, there are always negatives. there is no way a single celled organism could become us. its just ridiculous to think that.
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22 Mar 2007 06:06 pm
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kev360 wrote: ya, um, evelution is retarded. random mutations do not improve a race overall. it can make them slightly more adaptable, but its never a big change. also, there are always negatives. there is no way a single celled organism could become us. its just ridiculous to think that.

not exaclty just single celled, but the single cells, combine and mate, to create another orginism, or to create a multi-cell. Then, an orginisme creates stem cells, causing what makes us, which can possibly lead to creation of humans.
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also, kev, cardice, don’t insult ones beliefs. I can say the same thing about believing that god just created humans, but i used to believe that, and either way, its possible.
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22 Mar 2007 06:10 pm
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Mariomaniac wrote:
kev360 wrote: ya, um, evelution is retarded. random mutations do not improve a race overall. it can make them slightly more adaptable, but its never a big change. also, there are always negatives. there is no way a single celled organism could become us. its just ridiculous to think that.

not exaclty just single celled, but the single cells, combine and mate, to create another orginism, or to create a multi-cell. Then, an orginisme creates stem cells, causing what makes us, which can possibly lead to creation of humans.

ok, you still have the problem of having an organism that has about 5 cells becoming human. look, you get to a point when adding cells isn’t changing anything. also, according to evolution, through most of it it is random mutations that are somehow overall positive and through natural selection we gradually change.
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22 Mar 2007 06:11 pm
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Mariomaniac wrote: also, kev, cardice, don’t insult ones beliefs. I can say the same thing about believing that god just created humans, but i used to believe that, and either way, its possible.

all i said was it was ridiculous, and that is honestly what i think.
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22 Mar 2007 06:12 pm
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kev360 wrote:
Mariomaniac wrote:
kev360 wrote: ya, um, evelution is retarded. random mutations do not improve a race overall. it can make them slightly more adaptable, but its never a big change. also, there are always negatives. there is no way a single celled organism could become us. its just ridiculous to think that.

not exaclty just single celled, but the single cells, combine and mate, to create another orginism, or to create a multi-cell. Then, an orginisme creates stem cells, causing what makes us, which can possibly lead to creation of humans.

ok, you still have the problem of having an organism that has about 5 cells becoming human. look, you get to a point when adding cells isn’t changing anything. also, according to evolution, through most of it it is random mutations that are somehow overall positive and through natural selection we gradually change.

im not a full blown evolutionist, i just think that god made relations of humans being created by smaller cells, and everything that lives, and at a point, he made the changing stop. for all we know, god made his evolution changing from simple orginisms stop, and we may not change that much anymore.
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22 Mar 2007 06:14 pm
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yeah i think its pretty ridiculous also
because i believe in the BIBLE
and it said he created man in his image
not he created organisms that would eventually evolve into man
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22 Mar 2007 06:16 pm
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Mariomaniac wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Mariomaniac wrote:
kev360 wrote: ya, um, evelution is retarded. random mutations do not improve a race overall. it can make them slightly more adaptable, but its never a big change. also, there are always negatives. there is no way a single celled organism could become us. its just ridiculous to think that.

not exaclty just single celled, but the single cells, combine and mate, to create another orginism, or to create a multi-cell. Then, an orginisme creates stem cells, causing what makes us, which can possibly lead to creation of humans.

ok, you still have the problem of having an organism that has about 5 cells becoming human. look, you get to a point when adding cells isn’t changing anything. also, according to evolution, through most of it it is random mutations that are somehow overall positive and through natural selection we gradually change.

im not a full blown evolutionist, i just think that god made relations of humans being created by smaller cells, and everything that lives, and at a point, he made the changing stop. for all we know, god made his evolution changing from simple orginisms stop, and we may not change that much anymore.

and i believe that there is no way that organisms evolved. but, hey, to each his own....but, ya, even if evolution is true, its so out there, there would have to be something guiding it. especially becouse some of the steps from monkey to human are negative (like us using two legs. we slow down, and it makes birthing almost impossible. we have an eventual payoff of being able to use our hands well, but for the first mutations, that would be a very bad thing to walk on two legs.)
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22 Mar 2007 06:25 pm
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car dice13 wrote: yep
you might as well believe in santa

lol.
I could just as easily say, “If you believe in God, you might as well believe in Santa” just as easily.
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22 Mar 2007 06:28 pm
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22 Mar 2007 06:37 pm
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kev360 wrote:
Mariomaniac wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Mariomaniac wrote:
kev360 wrote: ya, um, evelution is retarded. random mutations do not improve a race overall. it can make them slightly more adaptable, but its never a big change. also, there are always negatives. there is no way a single celled organism could become us. its just ridiculous to think that.

not exaclty just single celled, but the single cells, combine and mate, to create another orginism, or to create a multi-cell. Then, an orginisme creates stem cells, causing what makes us, which can possibly lead to creation of humans.

ok, you still have the problem of having an organism that has about 5 cells becoming human. look, you get to a point when adding cells isn’t changing anything. also, according to evolution, through most of it it is random mutations that are somehow overall positive and through natural selection we gradually change.

im not a full blown evolutionist, i just think that god made relations of humans being created by smaller cells, and everything that lives, and at a point, he made the changing stop. for all we know, god made his evolution changing from simple orginisms stop, and we may not change that much anymore.

and i believe that there is no way that organisms evolved. but, hey, to each his own....but, ya, even if evolution is true, its so out there, there would have to be something guiding it. especially becouse some of the steps from monkey to human are negative (like us using two legs. we slow down, and it makes birthing almost impossible. we have an eventual payoff of being able to use our hands well, but for the first mutations, that would be a very bad thing to walk on two legs.)

if evolution is out there, there is something that guides it. That something is god controlling evolution to be what the “image god saw in man” in his mind.

and the whole thing that made me believe this is the Galapagos. These islands are 600 miles away from any other land, so how are animals on it? it’s just lava created land. in geological terms, this land is very new, and no where near dates back to when god created earth. So it is in the middle of the ocean, 600 miles away from land. It would take at least 2 weeks for a reptile to float there and survive without drinkable water. and so, if a reptile did float there, how come no where else on earth can you see these reptiles? its all a matter of the existance of something in a place as far away as the Galapagos.
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mariomaniac OL wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Mariomaniac wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Mariomaniac wrote:
kev360 wrote: ya, um, evelution is retarded. random mutations do not improve a race overall. it can make them slightly more adaptable, but its never a big change. also, there are always negatives. there is no way a single celled organism could become us. its just ridiculous to think that.

not exaclty just single celled, but the single cells, combine and mate, to create another orginism, or to create a multi-cell. Then, an orginisme creates stem cells, causing what makes us, which can possibly lead to creation of humans.

ok, you still have the problem of having an organism that has about 5 cells becoming human. look, you get to a point when adding cells isn’t changing anything. also, according to evolution, through most of it it is random mutations that are somehow overall positive and through natural selection we gradually change.

im not a full blown evolutionist, i just think that god made relations of humans being created by smaller cells, and everything that lives, and at a point, he made the changing stop. for all we know, god made his evolution changing from simple orginisms stop, and we may not change that much anymore.

and i believe that there is no way that organisms evolved. but, hey, to each his own....but, ya, even if evolution is true, its so out there, there would have to be something guiding it. especially becouse some of the steps from monkey to human are negative (like us using two legs. we slow down, and it makes birthing almost impossible. we have an eventual payoff of being able to use our hands well, but for the first mutations, that would be a very bad thing to walk on two legs.)

if evolution is out there, there is something that guides it. That something is god controlling evolution to be what the “image god saw in man” in his mind.

and the whole thing that made me believe this is the Galapagos. These islands are 600 miles away from any other land, so how are animals on it? it’s just lava created land. in geological terms, this land is very new, and no where near dates back to when god created earth. So it is in the middle of the ocean, 600 miles away from land. It would take at least 2 weeks for a reptile to float there and survive without drinkable water. and so, if a reptile did float there, how come no where else on earth can you see these reptiles? its all a matter of the existance of something in a place as far away as the Galapagos.

if life started there, how did it get off? originally the landscape of the earth was totally different. you know, the supercontinent? all land masses used to be a lot closer to each other.
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