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23 Mar 2007 06:41 am
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Apocalyptic Gladiator wrote:
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Apocalyptic Gladiator wrote: We de-eveolve. Look at Migits and Giants. Growth deformation, born with or without a Ressesive or Dominate Gene. Genes that took Humans millions of years to master and control. Our ancestors, from africa, will always look differen’t, because their human form hasn’t been developed yet, its still in process.

Really all I was trying to say is that we do De-evolve, we just need to think outside the box every now and then.


A few cases of people with abnormality isn’t devolution.


It could be. This is what I mean. Evolution didn’t play by the rules or go by a pattern that we think comes into play. Evolution is millions of years of unrecored history that is linked by hundreds of thousands of grids. We will never know why or how, but it happened and we’re here.

God found a way to create man, it just took a little time. What we might call deformity, God may call it deEvolution or even Evolution.

Its hard to understand, but its very reasonable and possible.


There is pretty much no evidence that humans were created by god, and therefore is not reasonable. However there is a lot of evidence that suggests we evolve. If your one of those people who think that just because our bodies are biologically complicated that the only way it could have been done is if some god did it, then your an idiot. Evolution has the potential to do amazing things, complicated things. There is a scientific explanation for everything, even the things we do not fully understand.

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23 Mar 2007 06:43 am
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car dice13 wrote:
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dark99 wrote: “ya, um, evelution is retarded."

right... from this statement alone it is obvious you do not understand what you speak of... and personally i am tired of arguing about it... so this is my only comment... research and figure it out on your own... if you actually look into it without such a biased view then you might learn something...

also since you seem to love to oversimplify evolution to make it seem rediculous I will do the same to Creationism...

yeah so one day God just decides to poof out of nowhere and then he decides that in all his glory he is just going to create the universe for no reason but his own entertainment... then he is going to make these things called humans for the sole purpose of worshiping him even though he is all powerful and doesn’t really need anything at all... (what a huge annoying ego huh...) finally he is also going to make a vast array of empty space in which he places nothing but fun things for us to look at during the night... yeah makes ALOT of sense huh... i see the light... or maybe i just see some dusty old pages constantly revived for no purpose other than to control us and inflate our already rediculous thoughts about how great we are... smiley

and one day humans just decided to make technology
we don’t need it but it makes our lives more enjoyable
same for god
now he has company when we die and go to heaven


One problem with that. We actually know for a fact that we have tech, only an idiot would deny that. But we don’t know for a fact that god exists, so your above post can’t really be applied to that.

then dark99s example can’t be used either since their isn’t proof of whether god exists


Dark99’s example of what? He never made an example of anything, he was just showing that he could just as easily make creationism sound ridiculous as some people try to make evolution sound.

and i was showing that creation could be plausible
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And what evidence do you have to prove that? May I remind you the Bible is considered as flimsy evidence.

god wrote: I exist. I can destroy you, as easily as I created you.


If that’s your last resort on trying to prove to me that god created man then you are lost. I find this attempt very pathetic.

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23 Mar 2007 08:43 am
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this is usually one of the most heated debates besides religion and politics in forums and life in general. it’s high time this debate section jumps into this topic and we get down and dirty...

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23 Mar 2007 08:46 am
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Huh? You don’t think that the Earth is 5000 years old?!

Anyway, fossil records prove that Evolution occurred. Also, Radiodating proves that the earth is well over 5000 years old. By constructing an “Evolutionary tree” you can clearly see the similarities between modern organisms and their ancestors. Also, the DNA is similar between species. These all add up to prove Evolution.

BTW, I’m tired of hearing that evolution is only a theory. A SCIENTIFIC theory is a SCIENTIFIC hypothesis (an answer that has endured repeated testing) that has been proven many times by many people, and has been accepted by most of the scientific community.

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car dice13 wrote: yeah i think its pretty ridiculous also
because i believe in the BIBLE
and it said he created man in his image
not he created organisms that would eventually evolve into man


I know that evolution is real because fossil. Because layers of rock, and because star. Pretty much because the world around me suggests it, and because I have never doubted the theory, really. I wish that everyone would stop trying to dissprove evolution because they think it would prove that their belief is false. If the fact that evolution is what happened is all it takes to prove what you know false, you didn’t really think it was true in the first place, IMO.

I leave you with this: Yes, all life evolved from bacteria (actually, mitochondria came first independently). This evolution took billions of years. But, if I traveled back to the beginning of the Earth, would I find primitive cells? Who’s to say. It’s how it happened, but... did it really happen? There’s really no better way to say it. Who’s to say that it didn’t take 5 minutes? Because there’s billions of years worth of change visible? But did that time actually pass? Time is relative, remember. You can never know...

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23 Mar 2007 11:14 am
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DARKSLAYER07 wrote: Huh? You don’t think that the Earth is 5000 years old? Crap. I mistook you for TEB again... FUCK!

Anyway, fossil records prove that Evolution occurred. Also, Radiodating proves that the earth is well over 5000 years old. By constructing an “Evolutionary tree” you can clearly see the similarities between modern organisms and their ancestors. Also, the DNA is similar between species. These all add up to prove Evolution.

BTW, I’m tired of hearing that evolution is only a theory. A SCIENTIFIC theory is a SCIENTIFIC hypothesis (an answer that has endured repeated testing) that has been proven many times by many people, and has been accepted by most of the scientific community.


I’m with you on that. Saying evolution doesn’t exist is like saying gravity doesn’t exist.

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23 Mar 2007 11:18 am
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DARKSLAYER07 wrote:
car dice13 wrote: yeah i think its pretty ridiculous also
because i believe in the BIBLE
and it said he created man in his image
not he created organisms that would eventually evolve into man


I know that evolution is real because fossil. Because layers of rock, and because star. Pretty much because the world around me suggests it, and because I have never doubted the theory, really. I wish that everyone would stop trying to dissprove evolution because they think it would prove that their belief is false. If the fact that evolution is what happened is all it takes to prove what you know false, you didn’t really think it was true in the first place, IMO.

I leave you with this: Yes, all life evolved from bacteria (actually, mitochondria came first independently). This evolution took billions of years. But, if I traveled back to the beginning of the Earth, would I find primitive cells? Who’s to say. It’s how it happened, but... did it really happen? There’s really no better way to say it. Who’s to say that it didn’t take 5 minutes? Because there’s billions of years worth of change visible? But did that time actually pass? Time is relative, remember. You can never know...


What I find sad is that there are aspects of evolution that religious people can choose to exploit with their beliefs. They try to use faith and opinion to disprove fact. Man kind will never progress further in understanding the universe by simply saying, “god did it” every time something pops up that they don’t understand. We need to accept science and logic or we’ll never get anywhere.

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23 Mar 2007 11:45 am
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I totally agree with you, there are examples of evolution all around us. Like whenever a bacteria becomes resistant to an antibiotic, that is evolution. All evolution is, like everyone else said, is random mutations in a species and the strongest survive to reproduce, so the bacteria that is resistant reproduces and passes that on to its offspring.

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23 Mar 2007 11:48 am
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And please “All members” please don’t bring your religion bullshit in here, that’s not helping our questions, simply by saying god made us all-lol....

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23 Mar 2007 11:52 am
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DARKSLAYER07 wrote: And please “All members” please don’t bring your religion bullshit in here, that’s not helping our questions, simply by saying god made us all-lol....


Just be glad that “someone who cares..." guy/girl isn’t here. He/she was way too into religion. They would come into the games section and preach how video games are the devil’s work.

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23 Mar 2007 01:20 pm
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DARKSLAYER07 wrote: Huh? You don’t think that the Earth is 5000 years old?!

Anyway, fossil records prove that Evolution occurred. Also, Radiodating proves that the earth is well over 5000 years old. By constructing an “Evolutionary tree” you can clearly see the similarities between modern organisms and their ancestors. Also, the DNA is similar between species. These all add up to prove Evolution.

BTW, I’m tired of hearing that evolution is only a theory. A SCIENTIFIC theory is a SCIENTIFIC hypothesis (an answer that has endured repeated testing) that has been proven many times by many people, and has been accepted by most of the scientific community.

As far as I am concerend the world could be 4.5billion years old. Nowhere in my beliefs does it say otherwise.

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DARKSLAYER07 wrote: And please “All members” please don’t bring your religion bullshit in here, that’s not helping our questions, simply by saying god made us all-lol....

Well this topic started off with religion in it then it turned into a debate of weather God exists or not. At first I was arguing with mariomaniac and we both believed God exists so therefore i could use that in my argument.

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23 Mar 2007 01:22 pm
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ramunematt wrote:
DARKSLAYER07 wrote: Huh? You don’t think that the Earth is 5000 years old? Crap. I mistook you for TEB again... FUCK!

Anyway, fossil records prove that Evolution occurred. Also, Radiodating proves that the earth is well over 5000 years old. By constructing an “Evolutionary tree” you can clearly see the similarities between modern organisms and their ancestors. Also, the DNA is similar between species. These all add up to prove Evolution.

BTW, I’m tired of hearing that evolution is only a theory. A SCIENTIFIC theory is a SCIENTIFIC hypothesis (an answer that has endured repeated testing) that has been proven many times by many people, and has been accepted by most of the scientific community.


I’m with you on that. Saying evolution doesn’t exist is like saying gravity doesn’t exist.

GRAVITY IS A FALSE THEORY!!! THE ARE ACTUALLY INVISIBLE STRINGS THAT WE CAN’T DETECT PULLING US TO THE GROUND!!!
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23 Mar 2007 02:28 pm
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car dice13 wrote:
DARKSLAYER07 wrote: Huh? You don’t think that the Earth is 5000 years old?!

Anyway, fossil records prove that Evolution occurred. Also, Radiodating proves that the earth is well over 5000 years old. By constructing an “Evolutionary tree” you can clearly see the similarities between modern organisms and their ancestors. Also, the DNA is similar between species. These all add up to prove Evolution.

BTW, I’m tired of hearing that evolution is only a theory. A SCIENTIFIC theory is a SCIENTIFIC hypothesis (an answer that has endured repeated testing) that has been proven many times by many people, and has been accepted by most of the scientific community.

As far as I am concerend the world could be 4.5billion years old. Nowhere in my beliefs does it say otherwise.


Do your beliefs even say how old the Earth is?

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23 Mar 2007 02:29 pm
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Weeman wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
DARKSLAYER07 wrote: Huh? You don’t think that the Earth is 5000 years old? Crap. I mistook you for TEB again... FUCK!

Anyway, fossil records prove that Evolution occurred. Also, Radiodating proves that the earth is well over 5000 years old. By constructing an “Evolutionary tree” you can clearly see the similarities between modern organisms and their ancestors. Also, the DNA is similar between species. These all add up to prove Evolution.

BTW, I’m tired of hearing that evolution is only a theory. A SCIENTIFIC theory is a SCIENTIFIC hypothesis (an answer that has endured repeated testing) that has been proven many times by many people, and has been accepted by most of the scientific community.


I’m with you on that. Saying evolution doesn’t exist is like saying gravity doesn’t exist.

GRAVITY IS A FALSE THEORY!!! THE ARE ACTUALLY INVISIBLE STRINGS THAT WE CAN’T DETECT PULLING US TO THE GROUND!!!
LOL




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ramunematt wrote:
car dice13 wrote:
DARKSLAYER07 wrote: Huh? You don’t think that the Earth is 5000 years old?!

Anyway, fossil records prove that Evolution occurred. Also, Radiodating proves that the earth is well over 5000 years old. By constructing an “Evolutionary tree” you can clearly see the similarities between modern organisms and their ancestors. Also, the DNA is similar between species. These all add up to prove Evolution.

BTW, I’m tired of hearing that evolution is only a theory. A SCIENTIFIC theory is a SCIENTIFIC hypothesis (an answer that has endured repeated testing) that has been proven many times by many people, and has been accepted by most of the scientific community.

As far as I am concerend the world could be 4.5billion years old. Nowhere in my beliefs does it say otherwise.


Do your beliefs even say how old the Earth is?

Well in the Bible it doesn’t say how old the earth is. It is basically one long story. Now you might not believe this but this is what I know. In the bible there were the 7 days of creation, well when the Bible was translated from greek, the word day had three meanings.
1.A 12 hour period. Sunrise to Sunset.
2.A 24 hour period. Sunrsie to Sunrise the next day.
3.A long period of time.
So each of the 7 “days” could’ve have been much longer than what the English language considers to be a day.

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car dice13 wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
car dice13 wrote:
DARKSLAYER07 wrote: Huh? You don’t think that the Earth is 5000 years old?!

Anyway, fossil records prove that Evolution occurred. Also, Radiodating proves that the earth is well over 5000 years old. By constructing an “Evolutionary tree” you can clearly see the similarities between modern organisms and their ancestors. Also, the DNA is similar between species. These all add up to prove Evolution.

BTW, I’m tired of hearing that evolution is only a theory. A SCIENTIFIC theory is a SCIENTIFIC hypothesis (an answer that has endured repeated testing) that has been proven many times by many people, and has been accepted by most of the scientific community.

As far as I am concerend the world could be 4.5billion years old. Nowhere in my beliefs does it say otherwise.


Do your beliefs even say how old the Earth is?

Well in the Bible it doesn’t say how old the earth is. It is basically one long story. Now you might not believe this but this is what I know. In the bible there were the 7 days of creation, well when the Bible was translated from greek, the word day had three meanings.
1.A 12 hour period. Sunrise to Sunset.
2.A 24 hour period. Sunrsie to Sunrise the next day.
3.A long period of time.
So each of the 7 “days” could’ve have been much longer than what the English language considers to be a day.


I could use this as another example of why religion won’t progress us anywhere. Everything we know today is all thanks to science, religion doesn’t get us anywhere.

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Screw Dick Cheney.

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ramunematt wrote:
car dice13 wrote:
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car dice13 wrote:
DARKSLAYER07 wrote: Huh? You don’t think that the Earth is 5000 years old?!

Anyway, fossil records prove that Evolution occurred. Also, Radiodating proves that the earth is well over 5000 years old. By constructing an “Evolutionary tree” you can clearly see the similarities between modern organisms and their ancestors. Also, the DNA is similar between species. These all add up to prove Evolution.

BTW, I’m tired of hearing that evolution is only a theory. A SCIENTIFIC theory is a SCIENTIFIC hypothesis (an answer that has endured repeated testing) that has been proven many times by many people, and has been accepted by most of the scientific community.

As far as I am concerend the world could be 4.5billion years old. Nowhere in my beliefs does it say otherwise.


Do your beliefs even say how old the Earth is?

Well in the Bible it doesn’t say how old the earth is. It is basically one long story. Now you might not believe this but this is what I know. In the bible there were the 7 days of creation, well when the Bible was translated from greek, the word day had three meanings.
1.A 12 hour period. Sunrise to Sunset.
2.A 24 hour period. Sunrsie to Sunrise the next day.
3.A long period of time.
So each of the 7 “days” could’ve have been much longer than what the English language considers to be a day.


I could use this as another example of why religion won’t progress us anywhere. Everything we know today is all thanks to science, religion doesn’t get us anywhere.

Well religion is about living a good life, and spreading god’s word, not finding technology.

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