| 23 Mar 2007 03:46 pm |
Dr. Matt Rep: 48  Joined: 07 Jul 2006 Posts: 14,533 OFFLINE | car dice13 wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
car dice13 wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
car dice13 wrote:
DARKSLAYER07 wrote:
Huh? You don’t think that the Earth is 5000 years old?!
Anyway, fossil records prove that Evolution occurred. Also, Radiodating proves that the earth is well over 5000 years old. By constructing an “Evolutionary tree” you can clearly see the similarities between modern organisms and their ancestors. Also, the DNA is similar between species. These all add up to prove Evolution.
BTW, I’m tired of hearing that evolution is only a theory. A SCIENTIFIC theory is a SCIENTIFIC hypothesis (an answer that has endured repeated testing) that has been proven many times by many people, and has been accepted by most of the scientific community.
As far as I am concerend the world could be 4.5billion years old. Nowhere in my beliefs does it say otherwise.
Do your beliefs even say how old the Earth is?
Well in the Bible it doesn’t say how old the earth is. It is basically one long story. Now you might not believe this but this is what I know. In the bible there were the 7 days of creation, well when the Bible was translated from greek, the word day had three meanings.
1.A 12 hour period. Sunrise to Sunset.
2.A 24 hour period. Sunrsie to Sunrise the next day.
3.A long period of time.
So each of the 7 “days” could’ve have been much longer than what the English language considers to be a day.
I could use this as another example of why religion won’t progress us anywhere. Everything we know today is all thanks to science, religion doesn’t get us anywhere.
Well religion is about living a good life, and spreading god’s word, not finding technology.
If it’s not about science and tech then why does god always have to be brought into conversations about evolution? And why does religion have to try and explains things that are best left to science? Science has already disproved stories in the bible, and it’s doing a much better job on explaining how we got here than religion. And why spread god’s word? Nothing will ever come out of that except more people blindly denying science and logic in favor of abstract explanations that don’t have any sense and not even proof that it exists. It’s like those arrogant fools who spend their weekends going door to door waking people up early just to try and convert them to their religion.
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 | | 23 Mar 2007 03:58 pm |
Spammer Rep: 13 Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Posts: 21,866 OFFLINE | ramunematt wrote:
car dice13 wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
car dice13 wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
car dice13 wrote:
DARKSLAYER07 wrote:
Huh? You don’t think that the Earth is 5000 years old?!
Anyway, fossil records prove that Evolution occurred. Also, Radiodating proves that the earth is well over 5000 years old. By constructing an “Evolutionary tree” you can clearly see the similarities between modern organisms and their ancestors. Also, the DNA is similar between species. These all add up to prove Evolution.
BTW, I’m tired of hearing that evolution is only a theory. A SCIENTIFIC theory is a SCIENTIFIC hypothesis (an answer that has endured repeated testing) that has been proven many times by many people, and has been accepted by most of the scientific community.
As far as I am concerend the world could be 4.5billion years old. Nowhere in my beliefs does it say otherwise.
Do your beliefs even say how old the Earth is?
Well in the Bible it doesn’t say how old the earth is. It is basically one long story. Now you might not believe this but this is what I know. In the bible there were the 7 days of creation, well when the Bible was translated from greek, the word day had three meanings.
1.A 12 hour period. Sunrise to Sunset.
2.A 24 hour period. Sunrsie to Sunrise the next day.
3.A long period of time.
So each of the 7 “days” could’ve have been much longer than what the English language considers to be a day.
I could use this as another example of why religion won’t progress us anywhere. Everything we know today is all thanks to science, religion doesn’t get us anywhere.
Well religion is about living a good life, and spreading god’s word, not finding technology.
If it’s not about science and tech then why does god always have to be brought into conversations about evolution? And why does religion have to try and explains things that are best left to science? Science has already disproved stories in the bible, and it’s doing a much better job on explaining how we got here than religion. And why spread god’s word? Nothing will ever come out of that except more people blindly denying science and logic in favor of abstract explanations that don’t have any sense and not even proof that it exists. It’s like those arrogant fools who spend their weekends going door to door waking people up early just to try and convert them to their religion.
Where is proof that stories in the bible are wrong?
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 | | | 23 Mar 2007 03:59 pm |
Silence is Deafening Rep: 20 Joined: 04 Oct 2006 Posts: 7,080 OFFLINE | .....not another evolution theory.......
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 | | | 23 Mar 2007 04:01 pm |
Spammer Rep: 13Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Posts: 21,866 OFFLINE | meh im tired of this argument.
Its not going to get anywhere because in the end. I’m still going to believe that God created the universe and you are going to believe the big bang did.
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| | | 23 Mar 2007 04:04 pm |
Dr. Matt Rep: 48Joined: 07 Jul 2006 Posts: 14,533 OFFLINE | car dice13 wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
car dice13 wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
car dice13 wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
car dice13 wrote:
DARKSLAYER07 wrote:
Huh? You don’t think that the Earth is 5000 years old?!
Anyway, fossil records prove that Evolution occurred. Also, Radiodating proves that the earth is well over 5000 years old. By constructing an “Evolutionary tree” you can clearly see the similarities between modern organisms and their ancestors. Also, the DNA is similar between species. These all add up to prove Evolution.
BTW, I’m tired of hearing that evolution is only a theory. A SCIENTIFIC theory is a SCIENTIFIC hypothesis (an answer that has endured repeated testing) that has been proven many times by many people, and has been accepted by most of the scientific community.
As far as I am concerend the world could be 4.5billion years old. Nowhere in my beliefs does it say otherwise.
Do your beliefs even say how old the Earth is?
Well in the Bible it doesn’t say how old the earth is. It is basically one long story. Now you might not believe this but this is what I know. In the bible there were the 7 days of creation, well when the Bible was translated from greek, the word day had three meanings.
1.A 12 hour period. Sunrise to Sunset.
2.A 24 hour period. Sunrsie to Sunrise the next day.
3.A long period of time.
So each of the 7 “days” could’ve have been much longer than what the English language considers to be a day.
I could use this as another example of why religion won’t progress us anywhere. Everything we know today is all thanks to science, religion doesn’t get us anywhere.
Well religion is about living a good life, and spreading god’s word, not finding technology.
If it’s not about science and tech then why does god always have to be brought into conversations about evolution? And why does religion have to try and explains things that are best left to science? Science has already disproved stories in the bible, and it’s doing a much better job on explaining how we got here than religion. And why spread god’s word? Nothing will ever come out of that except more people blindly denying science and logic in favor of abstract explanations that don’t have any sense and not even proof that it exists. It’s like those arrogant fools who spend their weekends going door to door waking people up early just to try and convert them to their religion.
Where is proof that stories in the bible are wrong?
Noah’s Ark has been proven impossible to happen the way the bible tells it, creationism is on a slippery slope with Evolution progressing, there is strong evidence that shows the way the bible explained Jesus is untrue, and without any scientific evidence to show if god exists pretty much every story involving god, the devil, demons, angels, arfterlife etc. would be categorized as untrue.
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Sarah Palin wrote:
Interviewer wrote:
So what kind of magazines do you read?
Um... the ones that are in front of me?
| | | 23 Mar 2007 04:05 pm |
Dr. Matt Rep: 48Joined: 07 Jul 2006 Posts: 14,533 OFFLINE | car dice13 wrote:
meh im tired of this argument.
Its not going to get anywhere because in the end. I’m still going to believe that God created the universe and you are going to believe the big bang did.
This is supposed to be about evolution.
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Sarah Palin wrote:
Interviewer wrote:
So what kind of magazines do you read?
Um... the ones that are in front of me?
| | | 23 Mar 2007 04:14 pm |
Spammer Rep: 13Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Posts: 21,866 OFFLINE | Well whatever. After this i won’t believe in macro evolution and you will. That better?
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| | | 26 Mar 2007 08:27 am |
Senior member Rep: 10 Joined: 28 Mar 2006 Posts: 6,705 OFFLINE | car dice13 wrote:
DARKSLAYER07 wrote:
And please “All members” please don’t bring your religion bullshit in here, that’s not helping our questions, simply by saying god made us all-lol....
Well this topic started off with religion in it then it turned into a debate of weather God exists or not. At first I was arguing with mariomaniac and we both believed God exists so therefore i could use that in my argument.
The more advanced Science we have today the more has come to more religion has had to change its holy book to correspond with *sense*
If i said, “how did the world come together?"
and you say, “God made it, he is all powerful”
doesn’t that seem a little bit closed off?
It shows me that humans have an innate desire to worship something, and seeing as countless civilizations have worshipped their own multitude of gods makes me wonder why on earth christians believe in their 1 god, why muslims believe in allah and all that crap.
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pointless...Last edited 26 Mar 2007 08:53 am by DARKSLAYER07 | | | 26 Mar 2007 08:35 am |
Senior member Rep: 10Joined: 28 Mar 2006 Posts: 6,705 OFFLINE | car dice13 wrote:
DARKSLAYER07 wrote:
Huh? You don’t think that the Earth is 5000 years old?!
Anyway, fossil records prove that Evolution occurred. Also, Radiodating proves that the earth is well over 5000 years old. By constructing an “Evolutionary tree” you can clearly see the similarities between modern organisms and their ancestors. Also, the DNA is similar between species. These all add up to prove Evolution.
BTW, I’m tired of hearing that evolution is only a theory. A SCIENTIFIC theory is a SCIENTIFIC hypothesis (an answer that has endured repeated testing) that has been proven many times by many people, and has been accepted by most of the scientific community.
As far as I am concerend the world could be 4.5billion years old. Nowhere in my beliefs does it say otherwise.
Actually yes the world is about 4.6 billion years old.
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pointless... | | | 26 Mar 2007 08:58 am |
Senior member Rep: 10Joined: 28 Mar 2006 Posts: 6,705 OFFLINE | car dice13 wrote:
DARKSLAYER07 wrote:
And please “All members” please don’t bring your religion bullshit in here, that’s not helping our questions, simply by saying god made us all-lol....
Well this topic started off with religion in it then it turned into a debate of weather God exists or not. At first I was arguing with mariomaniac and we both believed God exists so therefore i could use that in my argument.
The theory of evolution does not involve god. I dont think the easter bunny or tooth fairy are real. Does that make me close minded? Unless you say god is a single cell organism or some kind of bacteria, religion has nothing to do with evolution.
Inform yourself about the topic before replying. Here Ill make it easy for you
In biology, evolution is the change in the heritable traits of a population over successive generations, as determined by changes in the allele frequencies of genes. Over time, this process can result in speciation, the development of new species from existing ones. All contemporary organisms on earth are related to each other through common descent, the products of cumulative evolutionary changes over billions of years. Evolution is thus the source of the vast diversity of life on Earth, including the many extinct species attested to in the fossil record.
According to the theory of evolution, the basic mechanisms that produce evolutionary change are natural selection (which includes ecological, sexual, and kin selection) and genetic drift; these two mechanisms act on the genetic variation created by mutation, genetic recombination, and gene flow.
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pointless... | | | 26 Mar 2007 09:07 am |
Senior member Rep: 10Joined: 28 Mar 2006 Posts: 6,705 OFFLINE | car dice13 wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
car dice13 wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
car dice13 wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
car dice13 wrote:
DARKSLAYER07 wrote:
Huh? You don’t think that the Earth is 5000 years old?!
Anyway, fossil records prove that Evolution occurred. Also, Radiodating proves that the earth is well over 5000 years old. By constructing an “Evolutionary tree” you can clearly see the similarities between modern organisms and their ancestors. Also, the DNA is similar between species. These all add up to prove Evolution.
BTW, I’m tired of hearing that evolution is only a theory. A SCIENTIFIC theory is a SCIENTIFIC hypothesis (an answer that has endured repeated testing) that has been proven many times by many people, and has been accepted by most of the scientific community.
As far as I am concerend the world could be 4.5billion years old. Nowhere in my beliefs does it say otherwise.
Do your beliefs even say how old the Earth is?
Well in the Bible it doesn’t say how old the earth is. It is basically one long story. Now you might not believe this but this is what I know. In the bible there were the 7 days of creation, well when the Bible was translated from greek, the word day had three meanings.
1.A 12 hour period. Sunrise to Sunset.
2.A 24 hour period. Sunrsie to Sunrise the next day.
3.A long period of time.
So each of the 7 “days” could’ve have been much longer than what the English language considers to be a day.
I could use this as another example of why religion won’t progress us anywhere. Everything we know today is all thanks to science, religion doesn’t get us anywhere.
Well religion is about living a good life, and spreading god’s word, not finding technology.
If it’s not about science and tech then why does god always have to be brought into conversations about evolution? And why does religion have to try and explains things that are best left to science? Science has already disproved stories in the bible, and it’s doing a much better job on explaining how we got here than religion. And why spread god’s word? Nothing will ever come out of that except more people blindly denying science and logic in favor of abstract explanations that don’t have any sense and not even proof that it exists. It’s like those arrogant fools who spend their weekends going door to door waking people up early just to try and convert them to their religion.
Where is proof that stories in the bible are wrong?
evolution proven the Bible wrong and been proven as scientific fact? Evolution is an accepted theory. The Bible was proven wrong when they told you a man could walk on water.
Yes again and again and again... but deeply religous people of judaism, christianity, and islam refuse to see it and deny these proven facts.... evidence to back it up?
According to the bible the earth is about 5000 years old... why then are their dinosaur fossils hundreds of millions of years old...
And to the the people overthinking the use of the word scientific THEORY-a scientific theory is a FACT proven by a community of scientists the reason it is called a theory is because it can be constantly updated, for example certain medicines were accepted in the 1950s as being useful where as today there are completely new medicines for the same sicknesses, they are constantly being updated
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pointless...Last edited 26 Mar 2007 09:16 am by DARKSLAYER07 | | | 26 Mar 2007 11:55 am |
bahaha-its me Guest | jus drop it guys, jus drop it. ur all wasting ur time and not only that, ur killing ur eyes too. so save it. go learn how to do a kickflip.
| | | 26 Mar 2007 04:33 pm |
Dr. Matt Rep: 48Joined: 07 Jul 2006 Posts: 14,533 OFFLINE | DARKSLAYER07 wrote:
car dice13 wrote:
DARKSLAYER07 wrote:
And please “All members” please don’t bring your religion bullshit in here, that’s not helping our questions, simply by saying god made us all-lol....
Well this topic started off with religion in it then it turned into a debate of weather God exists or not. At first I was arguing with mariomaniac and we both believed God exists so therefore i could use that in my argument.
The more advanced Science we have today the more has come to more religion has had to change its holy book to correspond with *sense*
If i said, “how did the world come together?"
and you say, “God made it, he is all powerful”
doesn’t that seem a little bit closed off?
It shows me that humans have an innate desire to worship something, and seeing as countless civilizations have worshipped their own multitude of gods makes me wonder why on earth christians believe in their 1 god, why muslims believe in allah and all that crap.
Exactly. What good has religion done for mankind anyway? All religion really does nowadays is cause segregation and violence. If it wasn’t for religion we would never have gone to war with Iraq, and the Twin Towers would still be there.
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Sarah Palin wrote:
Interviewer wrote:
So what kind of magazines do you read?
Um... the ones that are in front of me?
| | | 26 Mar 2007 04:40 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 4 Joined: 16 Feb 2007 Posts: 3,024 OFFLINE | ramunematt wrote:
DARKSLAYER07 wrote:
car dice13 wrote:
DARKSLAYER07 wrote:
And please “All members” please don’t bring your religion bullshit in here, that’s not helping our questions, simply by saying god made us all-lol....
Well this topic started off with religion in it then it turned into a debate of weather God exists or not. At first I was arguing with mariomaniac and we both believed God exists so therefore i could use that in my argument.
The more advanced Science we have today the more has come to more religion has had to change its holy book to correspond with *sense*
If i said, “how did the world come together?"
and you say, “God made it, he is all powerful”
doesn’t that seem a little bit closed off?
It shows me that humans have an innate desire to worship something, and seeing as countless civilizations have worshipped their own multitude of gods makes me wonder why on earth christians believe in their 1 god, why muslims believe in allah and all that crap.
Exactly. What good has religion done for mankind anyway? All religion really does nowadays is cause segregation and violence. If it wasn’t for religion we would never have gone to war with Iraq, and the Twin Towers would still be there.
Not true at all. If religion wasn’t around, people would just find something else to boss each other around for. People just love to fight, and nothing will stop that.
Right now religion has been fading away more and more and is now a dying horse. Scientists have been coming up with more theories that show more reasonable and supported answers as to how the Universe was made, and how we got here, which was largely what religion was first made to explain. Now the only thing that religion exists for anymore is for the idea of an afterlife and a system of rules suggested to live by.
However, I don’t see why things are continuously changed and called the same thing. Christianity, for example, now, is nothing like how it was when it first started. Nothing at all. The rules have changed, the punishments have changed, and the strictness has waned. I don’t see why they just don’t stop and then start from scratch. Either that or just call it something different. A puppy becomes a dog, because it grows and develops different traits. You don’t call a full-grown dog a puppy because it is a new thing. I think that they should do the same to religion.
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 | | | 26 Mar 2007 04:44 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 23 Joined: 24 Mar 2007 Posts: 1,685 OFFLINE | Zirnitra wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
DARKSLAYER07 wrote:
car dice13 wrote:
DARKSLAYER07 wrote:
And please “All members” please don’t bring your religion bullshit in here, that’s not helping our questions, simply by saying god made us all-lol....
Well this topic started off with religion in it then it turned into a debate of weather God exists or not. At first I was arguing with mariomaniac and we both believed God exists so therefore i could use that in my argument.
The more advanced Science we have today the more has come to more religion has had to change its holy book to correspond with *sense*
If i said, “how did the world come together?"
and you say, “God made it, he is all powerful”
doesn’t that seem a little bit closed off?
It shows me that humans have an innate desire to worship something, and seeing as countless civilizations have worshipped their own multitude of gods makes me wonder why on earth christians believe in their 1 god, why muslims believe in allah and all that crap.
Exactly. What good has religion done for mankind anyway? All religion really does nowadays is cause segregation and violence. If it wasn’t for religion we would never have gone to war with Iraq, and the Twin Towers would still be there.
Not true at all. If religion wasn’t around, people would just find something else to boss each other around for. People just love to fight, and nothing will stop that.
Right now religion has been fading away more and more and is now a dying horse. Scientists have been coming up with more theories that show more reasonable and supported answers as to how the Universe was made, and how we got here, which was largely what religion was first made to explain. Now the only thing that religion exists for anymore is for the idea of an afterlife and a system of rules suggested to live by.
However, I don’t see why things are continuously changed and called the same thing. Christianity, for example, now, is nothing like how it was when it first started. Nothing at all. The rules have changed, the punishments have changed, and the strictness has waned. I don’t see why they just don’t stop and then start from scratch. Either that or just call it something different. A puppy becomes a dog, because it grows and develops different traits. You don’t call a full-grown dog a puppy because it is a new thing. I think that they should do the same to religion.
Well it wouldn’t be humane to crucify criminals these days.
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I’ve been perma banned 36 times over all of my accounts. | | | 26 Mar 2007 04:45 pm |
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Silence is Deafening Rep: 20Joined: 04 Oct 2006 Posts: 7,080 OFFLINE | bant car dice wrote:
Zirnitra wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
DARKSLAYER07 wrote:
car dice13 wrote:
DARKSLAYER07 wrote:
And please “All members” please don’t bring your religion bullshit in here, that’s not helping our questions, simply by saying god made us all-lol....
Well this topic started off with religion in it then it turned into a debate of weather God exists or not. At first I was arguing with mariomaniac and we both believed God exists so therefore i could use that in my argument.
The more advanced Science we have today the more has come to more religion has had to change its holy book to correspond with *sense*
If i said, “how did the world come together?"
and you say, “God made it, he is all powerful”
doesn’t that seem a little bit closed off?
It shows me that humans have an innate desire to worship something, and seeing as countless civilizations have worshipped their own multitude of gods makes me wonder why on earth christians believe in their 1 god, why muslims believe in allah and all that crap.
Exactly. What good has religion done for mankind anyway? All religion really does nowadays is cause segregation and violence. If it wasn’t for religion we would never have gone to war with Iraq, and the Twin Towers would still be there.
Not true at all. If religion wasn’t around, people would just find something else to boss each other around for. People just love to fight, and nothing will stop that.
Right now religion has been fading away more and more and is now a dying horse. Scientists have been coming up with more theories that show more reasonable and supported answers as to how the Universe was made, and how we got here, which was largely what religion was first made to explain. Now the only thing that religion exists for anymore is for the idea of an afterlife and a system of rules suggested to live by.
However, I don’t see why things are continuously changed and called the same thing. Christianity, for example, now, is nothing like how it was when it first started. Nothing at all. The rules have changed, the punishments have changed, and the strictness has waned. I don’t see why they just don’t stop and then start from scratch. Either that or just call it something different. A puppy becomes a dog, because it grows and develops different traits. You don’t call a full-grown dog a puppy because it is a new thing. I think that they should do the same to religion.
Well it wouldn’t be humane to crucify criminals these days.
no, but killing eachother with guns in war isn’t humane either....though i salute all that go to fight.....
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| | | 26 Mar 2007 04:47 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 23Joined: 24 Mar 2007 Posts: 1,685 OFFLINE | Zirnitra wrote:
Did I ever say it would be
Well you said the punishments have changed, and we should start from scratch.
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I’ve been perma banned 36 times over all of my accounts. | | | 26 Mar 2007 04:50 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 4Joined: 16 Feb 2007 Posts: 3,024 OFFLINE | bant car dice wrote:
Zirnitra wrote:
Did I ever say it would be
Well you said the punishments have changed, and we should start from scratch.
The punishments of religion has changed. And when I said “start from scratch” I mean just rebuild a new system of morals and call it something else instead of constantly changing religions around.
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