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[Quote] #21
12 Apr 2007 07:48 pm
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new cradle would fall under death metal...but their old shit is black and lol ya i know Opeth is melodic but ya they also have a different sound and can be described as progressive death metal i guess but hey lol that dumb fuck DrumIntoTheNight didnt know that Cradle was black metal haha he though they were “power and symphonic extreme” what a fucking idiot!\m/

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let us consult the all mighty wikipedia...

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12 Apr 2007 08:20 pm
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the oracle (wikipedia) states the following:


Cradle of Filth’s “true” black metal status has been in debate since near the time they became popular.[30] Dani, in a 1998 interview for BBC Radio 5 for example, said “I use the term heavy metal, rather than black metal, because I think that’s a bit of a fad now. Call it what you like: death metal, black metal, any kind of metal...",[31] while Gavin Baddeley’s 2006 Terrorizer interview states that “few folk, the band included, call Cradle black metal these days.“[32]

Their format differs from most black metal, and they have thus, at one time or another, been labeled symphonic black metal;[33] extreme gothic metal;[34] melodic black metal;[35] satanic metal;[36] vampyric metal;[37] speed metal;[38] death metal;[39] brutal death metal;[40] melodic death metal;[41] and horror metal,[42] some of which are regarded by critics and fans alike as entirely apocryphal categories. They are often dismissed for a perceived lack of credibility, along with bands such as Dimmu Borgir whose mainstream success followed in Cradle’s wake,[43] and it is arguably the band’s mischievous, self-aware humour that divides opinions and causes much of the controversy; black metal is not known for its jokes.

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oooh, heres a good one...


In a 2006 interview with Terrorizer magazine, current guitarist Paul Allender said “We were never a black metal band. The only thing that catered to that was the make-up. Even when The Principle of Evil Made Flesh came out — you look at Emperor and Burzum and all that stuff — we didn’t sound anything like that. The way that I see it is that we were, and still are now, an extreme metal band."

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12 Apr 2007 08:23 pm
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so ya i was right huh..early cradle was black metal...just their new stuff like their Thornography album was so not black metal.

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12 Apr 2007 08:26 pm
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but... what? how?

there are band members saying they weren’t black metal... they just borrowed from the style

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12 Apr 2007 08:27 pm
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not that something is true just because a band member says it... I mean... the guys from system said that they’re not mainstream... go figure

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12 Apr 2007 08:29 pm
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well no not really thats just Dani saying that...ofcourse he wont say what genre cradle was and is now...he wants people to think that CoF is way different from any other band...which they kinda are thet have a very different unique sound to them.

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12 Apr 2007 08:36 pm
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unique... yeah... just like every body else


*cough* dimmu borjir *cough*


it could be worse though I guess..

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12 Apr 2007 08:40 pm
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haha not a fan of dimmu borjir i take it?

*i dont like em that much*

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12 Apr 2007 08:41 pm
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nyeh, they’re so-so... not spectacular

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12 Apr 2007 08:44 pm
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4 some reason their fucking massive in Candada...i have no idea why lol ya they not good

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12 Apr 2007 08:49 pm
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if you can find anything by them On Thorns I Lay are a pretty good jazz/prog/death metal band...

extremely underground Italian band with a female vocalist, the musics not very exciting, its more like a series of heavy metal lullabies.. but I like it, its alright.

If you can find anything by them, check it out... they are VERY underground though... for a long time I thought the band name was Orama, which is the name of their most recent album

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12 Apr 2007 08:52 pm
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ok will do mann they sound killer\m/ hey i have to go to my friends house 4 a bit so i will talk to u later then....peace

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12 Apr 2007 08:55 pm
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coolies.

you know, your alright when we’re not arguing over drummers

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12 Apr 2007 11:58 pm
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hey thanx and ur alright to, dumb joey jordison causes fights lol

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13 Apr 2007 04:46 am
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livingdeadgirl wrote:
DrumIntoTheNight wrote:
D.V.D.A. wrote: both r sick but i like the whole melodic death metal genre better anyways.
in terms of death/melodic metal nothing beats bands like Opeth,In Flames,Soilwork,and Amorphis\m/

*CoF is probably my favorite black metal band though*


Cradle aren’t Black metal, they’re power and symphonic extreme. Opeth aren’t melodic, they’re progressive.

yeah, cradle isnt black metal, lol.... and dude opeth is melodic


Opeth is nowhere near melodic, it’s progressive death metal.

I wouldn’t question my knowledge of metal if I was you kid.

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Last edited 13 Apr 2007 04:48 am by DrumIntoTheNight
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D.V.D.A. wrote: new cradle would fall under death metal...but their old shit is black and lol ya i know Opeth is melodic but ya they also have a different sound and can be described as progressive death metal i guess but hey lol that dumb fuck DrumIntoTheNight didnt know that Cradle was black metal haha he though they were “power and symphonic extreme” what a fucking idiot!\m/


Aww, he got pwnd in the Joey thread, and now he has to bitch about me to feel like a big man. I was right, asshole, what the hell are you on about? I said they aren’t black, apart from their older stuff. Jesus titty-fucking christ.

Ahahahaha, new Cradle is absolutely nowhere near Death Metal. Have you ever even listened to full on Death Metal? Not that In Flames melodic shit, actual Death Metal?

Cradle aren’t even close. They’re symphonic.

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Last edited 13 Apr 2007 05:07 am by DrumIntoTheNight
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13 Apr 2007 09:55 am
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can you read my dumb dumb friend?? i said their old shit was back and ya look IT UP u idiot Cradle’s old stuff was Black metal! fuck ur so frustrating because of ur lack of knoweldge in metal! god damn u didnt think cradle was ever black metal!
that alone shows your totally new at metal!

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13 Apr 2007 10:11 am
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Jesus fucking christ, learn to read.

YOU said Cradle was Black.

I said it isn’t, but their old stuff is.

So how am I wrong?

Talk abut frustrating.

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Last edited 13 Apr 2007 10:12 am by DrumIntoTheNight
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