I’m busy wondering here... just what is the hoopla over the DS? I myself used to own one, and the experience was, well... underwhelming, to say the least. This may be because I got my PSP before the DS, but it was somewhat sad how badly the PSP creamed the DS for me...
To me, the PSP has so many awesome, defining games that the Nintendo fanboy’s cry of, “no games!" sounds like complete bullshit. That may have been true on day 1, but it’s been 2 years, and since then Sony has amassed a truly awesome and respectable list of great games. Here are the ones I think are truly great and utilize the PSP very well:
Daxter
Ratchet and Clank: Size Matters
Syphon Filter: Dark Mirror
Lumines (1&2)
Tekken 5: Dark Ressurection
Gitaroo Man
Killzone: Liberation
GTA: LCS
GTA: VCS
Wipeout Pure
Loco Roco
Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops
Ace Combat X: Skies of Deception
Metal Gear Acid
For the DS, here’s what I see:
Metroid Prime: Hunters
New Super Mario Bros.
Super Mario 64 DS
Mario Kart DS
Nintendogs
Meteos
Yoshi’s Island
Kirby Canvas Curse
Advance Wars: Dual Strike
Brain Age
Trauma Center
Phoenix Wright
I know there are more, but these are the ones I’ve personally experienced.
Weird____Guy wrote:
I’m busy wondering here... just what is the hoopla over the DS? I myself used to own one, and the experience was, well... underwhelming, to say the least. This may be because I got my PSP before the DS, but it was somewhat sad how badly the PSP creamed the DS for me...
To me, the PSP has so many awesome, defining games that the Nintendo fanboy’s cry of, “no games!" sounds like complete bullshit. That may have been true on day 1, but it’s been 2 years, and since then Sony has amassed a truly awesome and respectable list of great games. Here are the ones I think are truly great and utilize the PSP very well:
Daxter
Ratchet and Clank: Size Matters
Syphon Filter: Dark Mirror
Lumines (1&2)
Tekken 5: Dark Ressurection
Gitaroo Man
Killzone: Liberation
GTA: LCS
GTA: VCS
Twisted Metal: Head On
Wipeout Pure
Loco Roco
Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops
Ace Combat X: Skies of Deception
Metal Gear Acid
For the DS, here’s what I see:
Metroid Prime: Hunters
New Super Mario Bros.
Super Mario 64 DS
Mario Kart DS
Nintendogs
Meteos
Yoshi’s Island
Kirby Canvas Curse
Advance Wars: Dual Strike
I know there are more, but these are the ones I’ve personally experienced.
Same thing happend to me, like the PSP with the big screen and practicly console games really did it for me, with DS it became annoying having to look at two damn screens and having to adjust to the stylas in multiple ways, and thats why I know FPS are not for DS!!!
You know, a lot of the games you mentioned I, and many others, would not consider defining games. Defining games would be a bit more important than Twisted Metal...Which, BTW, wasn’t that great to me.
Also, I’d remove from the DS list Super Mario 64 DS, Yoshi’s Touch n' Go (I don’t think the actual Yoshi' Story has come out yet), Advance Wars, and Kirby.
Games that define the DS are games such as Brain Age, Big Brain Academy, Elite Beat Agents, the games you listed exempt the ones I mentioned above, Trauma Center, Final Fantasy III, and that’s about all I can really think of.
See, you just like those games. Doesn’t mean they define the system. It defines the system when it stands out. And the Touch Generations series stands out.
RageOverdose wrote:
You know, a lot of the games you mentioned I, and many others, would not consider defining games. Defining games would be a bit more important than Twisted Metal...Which, BTW, wasn’t that great to me.
Also, I’d remove from the DS list Super Mario 64 DS, Yoshi’s Touch n' Go (I don’t think the actual Yoshi' Story has come out yet), Advance Wars, and Kirby.
Games that define the DS are games such as Brain Age, Big Brain Academy, Elite Beat Agents, the games you listed exempt the ones I mentioned above, Trauma Center, Final Fantasy III, and that’s about all I can really think of.
See, you just like those games. Doesn’t mean they define the system. It defines the system when it stands out. And the Touch Generations series stands out.
just as I wouldn’t consider FFIII a “defining game” as its a direct port from a game that’s nearly 20 years old!!
God, do you people want me to make f-ing descriptions of each PSP game and say why it deserves its place?
Daxter - proving that the PSP could look as good as a PS2 game while not sacrificing the core gameplay, Daxter was one of the earliest showcases for the system, and still is.
Ratchet and Clank: Size Matters - While it isn’t as pronounced of a leap from its original series as Daxter was in terms of gameplay, it didn’t have to be, as this game was a full-on sequel to the last PS2 Ratchet game, Deadlocked. What’s remarkable about this game is that it not only manages to look just as good as it’s PS2 brethren, it also manages to play as well.
Syphon Filter: Dark Mirror - While this series may have declined over the years, Dark Mirror lifted Syphon Filter way over the top as THE best Syphon Filter game ever. It has everything; graphics, gameplay, sound and multiplayer, each executed with finesse which I think few expected to see on the PSP less than one year after its release.
Lumines (1&2) - Anybody who knows about the PSP has heard about this game; it has been revered as THE most addicting puzzler since Tetris.
I’m sorry, but I’m getting sick of writing my reasons at 4 in the morning. lol
RageOverdose wrote:
You know, a lot of the games you mentioned I, and many others, would not consider defining games. Defining games would be a bit more important than Twisted Metal...Which, BTW, wasn’t that great to me.
Also, I’d remove from the DS list Super Mario 64 DS, Yoshi’s Touch n' Go (I don’t think the actual Yoshi' Story has come out yet), Advance Wars, and Kirby.
Games that define the DS are games such as Brain Age, Big Brain Academy, Elite Beat Agents, the games you listed exempt the ones I mentioned above, Trauma Center, Final Fantasy III, and that’s about all I can really think of.
See, you just like those games. Doesn’t mean they define the system. It defines the system when it stands out. And the Touch Generations series stands out.
just as I wouldn’t consider FFIII a “defining game” as its a direct port from a game that’s nearly 20 years old!!
God, do you people want me to make f-ing descriptions of each PSP game and say why it deserves its place?
Daxter - proving that the PSP could look as good as a PS2 game while not sacrificing the core gameplay, Daxter was one of the earliest showcases for the system, and still is.
Ratchet and Clank: Size Matters - While it isn’t as pronounced of a leap from its original series as Daxter was in terms of gameplay, it didn’t have to be, as this game was a full-on sequel to the last PS2 Ratchet game, Deadlocked. What’s remarkable about this game is that it not only manages to look just as good as it’s PS2 brethren, it also manages to play as well.
Syphon Filter: Dark Mirror - While this series may have declined over the years, Dark Mirror lifted Syphon Filter way over the top as THE best Syphon Filter game ever. It has everything; graphics, gameplay, sound and multiplayer, each executed with finesse which I think few expected to see on the PSP less than one year after its release.
Lumines (1&2) - Anybody who knows about the PSP has heard about this game; it has been revered as THE most addicting puzzler since Tetris.
I’m sorry, but I’m getting sick of writing my reasons at 4 in the morning. lol
You dont need to write your reasons man because you and I both know those are all games on the PSP that define them, I mean only we would know(Ultimate PSP Owners)
I really don’t know that games there are that could really define the PSP. I mean if it is all under a standard control the DS can do then the DS can do that and make use of its touch screen.
The DS has great games that work well for it. MPH is a great hand held FPS and online makes it great. Looking between the two screens becomes second nature and it won’t annoy you after you get used to it. The same goes for many other games. Usually most of the games have you focusing on one screen at a time, mainly where the action takes place so you only check the other screen when you need to.
just as I wouldn’t consider FFIII a “defining game” as its a direct port from a game that’s nearly 20 years old!!
God, do you people want me to make f-ing descriptions of each PSP game and say why it deserves its place?
Daxter - proving that the PSP could look as good as a PS2 game while not sacrificing the core gameplay, Daxter was one of the earliest showcases for the system, and still is.
Ratchet and Clank: Size Matters - While it isn’t as pronounced of a leap from its original series as Daxter was in terms of gameplay, it didn’t have to be, as this game was a full-on sequel to the last PS2 Ratchet game, Deadlocked. What’s remarkable about this game is that it not only manages to look just as good as it’s PS2 brethren, it also manages to play as well.
Syphon Filter: Dark Mirror - While this series may have declined over the years, Dark Mirror lifted Syphon Filter way over the top as THE best Syphon Filter game ever. It has everything; graphics, gameplay, sound and multiplayer, each executed with finesse which I think few expected to see on the PSP less than one year after its release.
Lumines (1&2) - Anybody who knows about the PSP has heard about this game; it has been revered as THE most addicting puzzler since Tetris.
I’m sorry, but I’m getting sick of writing my reasons at 4 in the morning. lol
Aside from Lumines, why am I playing the PSP? Why should I spend money on a PSP? I’ve played those games before and they aren’t enough for me to buy another system.
If they get a landmark Final Fantasy game (another installment in the FFVII series doesn’t count, the other 2 projects I experienced were dried cash cows) that’s a new installment, a new and awesome new series, maybe an awesome game coming from the minds of Ico, or something noteworthy, maybe I’ll buy it. As far as I’m concerned, me, myself, I COULD GIVE A FUCK ABOUT ANY OF THE GAMES IN THOSE SERIES!
I love Mario. I love Metroid. I love Pokemon. The Touch Generation games are NEW and FUN! If I was a fan of the Jak series, if I was a fan of the Ratchet and Clank series, if I was a SOCOM fan, or if I even cared about GTA, maybe I’d have a PSP. But I’m not and I don’t. I didn’t buy a PS2 for those games, why would I purchase a PSP for them? These games weren’t really major landmarks before (aside from GTA, both of which came to the PS2 anyway). I may miss MGS, but I’m still more interested in 4, so I’ll live without it. I never buy a system for ONE game.
Oh, and BTW, Final Fantasy III is a defining game because, guess what!? Those in the Western nations didn’t get to play it when it came out and this is our first time.
I’m not, by any means, saying the PSP is bad. But I don’t see how it is a defining game system. Its just a decent product. I wouldn’t spend time on it because I’m too busy going online in MP:H and Mario Kart DS or screwin' around in something like Meteos or Brain Age to really go to another handheld.
Look, I haven’t heard of a killer app on the PSP, a game that I must own aside from Lumines. DS already has Pokemon, and God knows people want their Pokemon. Best selling RPG to date. There’s a killer app. Then you have Mario and Metroid. You now have Final Fantasy III, a game never-before-released in the US. Definitely something for the FF fans. I’d say any Touch Generation game is close to a killer app, just being they’re so fun.
I know you feel cheated that your precious PSP isn’t more popular and you can’t understand why, but that’s just because you can’t see that people don’t want those games. Killzone Liberation may be fun (I think so) but Killzone was trashy and has a pretty lame reputation, so why would someone buy a PSP if they see that? It also didn’t help because of its price at launch and the shoddy battery life, along with one of its big selling points (or Sony tried to advertise it as such), the UMD movies, have been less than stellar. Added were the Memory Sticks which were a bit expensive and the fact games nearly cost the same as a console game all around, along with many games suffering from bad load times and things that distracted from the portable idea.
I won’t buy it because I spend too much time on consoles to spend anymore on games I’m half-interested in. I think the DS is more appealing. You probably think the PSP is. Fine. But most consumers don’t. There you have it.
Good lord, if Ramunematt was ever this articulate and thoughtful, I would have actually considered his request (stop acting as a propaganda machine for the PSP). I’ll meet you half-way; I’ll stop trying to convert you DS owners to the fold, but if the PSP gets a great game or killer app, nothing you say will stop me from speaking my mind. fair enough?
Weird____Guy not logged in wrote:
Good lord, if Ramunematt was ever this articulate and thoughtful, I would have actually considered his request (stop acting as a propaganda machine for the PSP). I’ll meet you half-way; I’ll stop trying to convert you DS owners to the fold, but if the PSP gets a great game or killer app, nothing you say will stop me from speaking my mind. fair enough?
Oh man all you were doing is giving credit when credit is do, feel free to speak your mind of any PSP game all the time!!!!
Weird____Guy not logged in wrote:
Good lord, if Ramunematt was ever this articulate and thoughtful, I would have actually considered his request (stop acting as a propaganda machine for the PSP). I’ll meet you half-way; I’ll stop trying to convert you DS owners to the fold, but if the PSP gets a great game or killer app, nothing you say will stop me from speaking my mind. fair enough?
Pokemon hasn’t been out in the U.S. long enough to define the system. When it sells more than Nintendogs (if it does, which since its Pokemon, it most likely will) then it will be the main defining game.