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[Quote] #81
06 Jul 2008 04:56 am
Ryo Ketchum
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Darth Nihilus wrote:
Ryo Ketchum wrote:
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Ryo Ketchum wrote:
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Apile-Li wrote:
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Trackz wrote:
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Mr.White wrote: The Flash would win in a race but in a fight,he is dead meat!!!!


One punch from Superman (even by holding back) would kill the Flash!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that the thing...flash caan simply phase through the punch, or move fast enoug hto deliver sveral IMPs which would ko superman


Your forgeting Superman also has super speed like
the Flash,anyway I doubt Flash’s punches would hurt Superman.Remember Flash is punching solid steel here (and he can’t even punch through a solid or rather brick wall),Flash would break his
hands if punched Superman.


I don’t think so. Darkseid has punched Superman, so has Spiderman, and other heroes and villains. The Flash can hurt Superman.



Darkseid has super human strength-that’s why he has punched Superman

Spiderman and Superman in the DC/Marvel crossover
battled in an area were the sun was red (meaning making Superman weak in the process)-that’s why he was punched by Spiderman

Flash can’t damage Superman,he is only human.He can only win in a race,not a fight!!


If he is only a human, then why can he damage him? Spiderman punched him, he’s a human. Why can’t The Flash?


Excuse me how exactly is Flash going to damage Superman? He doesn’t exactly have super human strength,Superman is basically fighting a “human”
(get that) who just happens to run around then average people do.And by the way Spiderman is not
human,only an idiot would say that.


So a man who wears a spider outfit for a living is not human, while a man who can run at the speed of light is? That’s fail.


Dude he is “super human”,Flash is human.


Dude, Spiderman is just as “human” as The Flash.


Dude Spiderman is a mutant,Flash is not.


He does not have to be a mutant to be Superhuman. Blade’s not a mutant. Daredevil isn’t. Superman isn’t. Batman isn’t, and even he can move at superhuman speeds. So technically, The Flash is superhuman.



I never said he has to be,I’m fully aware that Daredevil and Blade are not mutants.Superman is an alien,Blade a vampire and Daredevil (like the Flash are human).Fine their both “super human” if
that makes you happy and as for Spiderman,he is a
mutant.
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06 Jul 2008 04:58 am
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Ryo Ketchum wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
Ryo Ketchum wrote:
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Ryo Ketchum wrote:
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Trackz wrote:
Apile-Li wrote:
Mr.White wrote: The Flash would win in a race but in a fight,he is dead meat!!!!


One punch from Superman (even by holding back) would kill the Flash!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that the thing...flash caan simply phase through the punch, or move fast enoug hto deliver sveral IMPs which would ko superman


Your forgeting Superman also has super speed like
the Flash,anyway I doubt Flash’s punches would hurt Superman.Remember Flash is punching solid steel here (and he can’t even punch through a solid or rather brick wall),Flash would break his
hands if punched Superman.


I don’t think so. Darkseid has punched Superman, so has Spiderman, and other heroes and villains. The Flash can hurt Superman.



Darkseid has super human strength-that’s why he has punched Superman

Spiderman and Superman in the DC/Marvel crossover
battled in an area were the sun was red (meaning making Superman weak in the process)-that’s why he was punched by Spiderman

Flash can’t damage Superman,he is only human.He can only win in a race,not a fight!!


If he is only a human, then why can he damage him? Spiderman punched him, he’s a human. Why can’t The Flash?


Excuse me how exactly is Flash going to damage Superman? He doesn’t exactly have super human strength,Superman is basically fighting a “human”
(get that) who just happens to run around then average people do.And by the way Spiderman is not
human,only an idiot would say that.


So a man who wears a spider outfit for a living is not human, while a man who can run at the speed of light is? That’s fail.


Dude he is “super human”,Flash is human.


Dude, Spiderman is just as “human” as The Flash.


Dude Spiderman is a mutant,Flash is not.


He does not have to be a mutant to be Superhuman. Blade’s not a mutant. Daredevil isn’t. Superman isn’t. Batman isn’t, and even he can move at superhuman speeds. So technically, The Flash is superhuman.



I never said he has to be,I’m fully aware that Daredevil and Blade are not mutants.Superman is an alien,Blade a vampire and Daredevil (like the Flash are human).Fine their both “super human” if
that makes you happy and as for Spiderman,he is a
mutant.


It doesn’t have to make me happy. I’m just wondering why you thought that The Flash is not superhuman, and only a regular human. I was not taking anything seriously. I mean come on. ^_^
[Quote] #83
06 Jul 2008 05:04 am
Borris from Voilent Storm
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Trackz wrote:
Borris from Voilent Storm wrote: Okay guys maybe I should join in here,this thing of Flash beating Superman in a fight is way beyond me.But this battle,Superman vs the Flash-it’s obvoius Superman would beat the Flash...plain and simple!!!! And I don’t know why some people in this thread bring Spiderman in this debate,
anyway as for Superman vs the Flash

Street Fight
Superman wins

Race
Flash wins

So both heroes win in there own way

....noooo very ppor examples

for one flash can move much faster than superman and punch with the force of stars 30 times in a second (imagine superman being hit with multiple stars before he can blink)

thats one way for falsh to KO superman

another would simply be stealing his speed

both heroes can beat each otehr in a straight fight


Nope,that doesn’t really tell me why the Flash would beat Superman in a fight.Yes I’m well aware
he is faster than Superman,but Superman’s speed is 99% to that of the Flash so for Flash being faster than Superman isn’t really going to be that useful.These two have raced and even though Flash has won,in some cases the race has become a
draw.

A draw? Now what does tell you? Exactly.Remember Flash isn’t fighting someone who is “almost” fast
as him,he is fighting an alien hard as freaking steel,has heat vision,ice breath,super human strength (the most important) and flight.So yeah the odds are against the Flash here...
[Quote] #84
06 Jul 2008 01:09 pm
Ryo Ketchum
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Darth Nihilus wrote:
Ryo Ketchum wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
Ryo Ketchum wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
Ryo Ketchum wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
Apile-Li wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
Apile-Li wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
Apile-Li wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Apile-Li wrote:
Mr.White wrote: The Flash would win in a race but in a fight,he is dead meat!!!!


One punch from Superman (even by holding back) would kill the Flash!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that the thing...flash caan simply phase through the punch, or move fast enoug hto deliver sveral IMPs which would ko superman


Your forgeting Superman also has super speed like
the Flash,anyway I doubt Flash’s punches would hurt Superman.Remember Flash is punching solid steel here (and he can’t even punch through a solid or rather brick wall),Flash would break his
hands if punched Superman.


I don’t think so. Darkseid has punched Superman, so has Spiderman, and other heroes and villains. The Flash can hurt Superman.



Darkseid has super human strength-that’s why he has punched Superman

Spiderman and Superman in the DC/Marvel crossover
battled in an area were the sun was red (meaning making Superman weak in the process)-that’s why he was punched by Spiderman

Flash can’t damage Superman,he is only human.He can only win in a race,not a fight!!


If he is only a human, then why can he damage him? Spiderman punched him, he’s a human. Why can’t The Flash?


Excuse me how exactly is Flash going to damage Superman? He doesn’t exactly have super human strength,Superman is basically fighting a “human”
(get that) who just happens to run around then average people do.And by the way Spiderman is not
human,only an idiot would say that.


So a man who wears a spider outfit for a living is not human, while a man who can run at the speed of light is? That’s fail.


Dude he is “super human”,Flash is human.


Dude, Spiderman is just as “human” as The Flash.


Dude Spiderman is a mutant,Flash is not.


He does not have to be a mutant to be Superhuman. Blade’s not a mutant. Daredevil isn’t. Superman isn’t. Batman isn’t, and even he can move at superhuman speeds. So technically, The Flash is superhuman.



I never said he has to be,I’m fully aware that Daredevil and Blade are not mutants.Superman is an alien,Blade a vampire and Daredevil (like the Flash are human).Fine their both “super human” if
that makes you happy and as for Spiderman,he is a
mutant.


It doesn’t have to make me happy. I’m just wondering why you thought that The Flash is not superhuman, and only a regular human. I was not taking anything seriously. I mean come on. ^_^


Yeah so was I
[Quote] #85
07 Jul 2008 10:43 am
Andy Condor
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Actually these 2 heroes have fought (not raced) each other before with Superman kicking Wally West’s ass 10 times over.It was when Superman went “Rogue” and in that process he took down the entire JLA himself (Flash included).What does that tell you? Superman would win this battle,pure and
simple
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07 Jul 2008 10:48 am
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[Quote] #87
07 Jul 2008 03:44 pm
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If its all out superman, because he will just destroy the planet, else it will be flash..
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[Quote] #88
08 Jul 2008 05:44 am
Hank Xavoiur
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Wonder if this can put things into perspective:

Superman:Man of Steel
Faster than a speeding bullet (running and flying)

More powerfull than a locamotive

Able to leap tall buildings in a single bound

Has heat vision,ice breath,infra-red and super hearing

Has X-ray vision,micro and telescopic vision

Hard as freakin steel


AGAINST:

The Flash:Fastest Man Alive
Has superhuman speed,can run through solid objects and can
vibrate himself....

(Sighn) Yes this is difficult
[Quote] #89
08 Jul 2008 05:47 am
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super man would win!
[Quote] #90
08 Jul 2008 01:33 pm
Ryo Ketchum
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Hank Xavoiur wrote: Wonder if this can put things into perspective:

Superman:Man of Steel
Faster than a speeding bullet (running and flying)

More powerfull than a locamotive

Able to leap tall buildings in a single bound

Has heat vision,ice breath,infra-red and super hearing

Has X-ray vision,micro and telescopic vision

Hard as freakin steel


AGAINST:

The Flash:Fastest Man Alive
Has superhuman speed,can run through solid objects and can
vibrate himself....

(Sighn) Yes this is difficult


Yes this is difficult (Sighn)
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08 Jul 2008 04:28 pm
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Hank Xavoiur wrote: Wonder if this can put things into perspective:

Superman:Man of Steel
Faster than a speeding bullet (running and flying)

More powerfull than a locamotive

Able to leap tall buildings in a single bound

Has heat vision,ice breath,infra-red and super hearing

Has X-ray vision,micro and telescopic vision

Hard as freakin steel


AGAINST:

The Flash:Fastest Man Alive
Has superhuman speed,can run through solid objects and can
vibrate himself....

(Sighn) Yes this is difficult


You forgot about several other powers Flash has.
[Quote] #92
08 Jul 2008 06:52 pm
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Borris from Voilent Storm wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Borris from Voilent Storm wrote: Okay guys maybe I should join in here,this thing of Flash beating Superman in a fight is way beyond me.But this battle,Superman vs the Flash-it’s obvoius Superman would beat the Flash...plain and simple!!!! And I don’t know why some people in this thread bring Spiderman in this debate,
anyway as for Superman vs the Flash

Street Fight
Superman wins

Race
Flash wins

So both heroes win in there own way

....noooo very ppor examples

for one flash can move much faster than superman and punch with the force of stars 30 times in a second (imagine superman being hit with multiple stars before he can blink)

thats one way for falsh to KO superman

another would simply be stealing his speed

both heroes can beat each otehr in a straight fight


Nope,that doesn’t really tell me why the Flash would beat Superman in a fight.Yes I’m well aware
he is faster than Superman,but Superman’s speed is 99% to that of the Flash so for Flash being faster than Superman isn’t really going to be that useful.These two have raced and even though Flash has won,in some cases the race has become a
draw.

A draw? Now what does tell you? Exactly.Remember Flash isn’t fighting someone who is “almost” fast
as him,he is fighting an alien hard as freaking steel,has heat vision,ice breath,super human strength (the most important) and flight.So yeah the odds are against the Flash here...

no, I know exactly what scan your etalking baout

flash doesnt state superman has 99% of his speed, he states superman is 99% speed of light, which is nothing to flash who can move many times faster than light (as can superman, not in combat though)

and flash losing to superman is:
1.PIS to make both fans happy with the outcome
2. it happened pre-crisis which is non-canon to both current versions of the characters
3. laser vision wouldnt be able to touch flash, flash has even outran it on occasion
4. flash could just as easily steal supermans speed making him a living statue
5. 50 infinite mass punches would KO suprman


the fight is even
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[Quote] #93
09 Jul 2008 01:39 pm
Borris from Voilent Storm
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Trackz wrote:
Borris from Voilent Storm wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Borris from Voilent Storm wrote: Okay guys maybe I should join in here,this thing of Flash beating Superman in a fight is way beyond me.But this battle,Superman vs the Flash-it’s obvoius Superman would beat the Flash...plain and simple!!!! And I don’t know why some people in this thread bring Spiderman in this debate,
anyway as for Superman vs the Flash

Street Fight
Superman wins

Race
Flash wins

So both heroes win in there own way

....noooo very ppor examples

for one flash can move much faster than superman and punch with the force of stars 30 times in a second (imagine superman being hit with multiple stars before he can blink)

thats one way for falsh to KO superman

another would simply be stealing his speed

both heroes can beat each otehr in a straight fight


Nope,that doesn’t really tell me why the Flash would beat Superman in a fight.Yes I’m well aware
he is faster than Superman,but Superman’s speed is 99% to that of the Flash so for Flash being faster than Superman isn’t really going to be that useful.These two have raced and even though Flash has won,in some cases the race has become a
draw.

A draw? Now what does tell you? Exactly.Remember Flash isn’t fighting someone who is “almost” fast
as him,he is fighting an alien hard as freaking steel,has heat vision,ice breath,super human strength (the most important) and flight.So yeah the odds are against the Flash here...

no, I know exactly what scan your etalking baout

flash doesnt state superman has 99% of his speed, he states superman is 99% speed of light, which is nothing to flash who can move many times faster than light (as can superman, not in combat though)

and flash losing to superman is:
1.PIS to make both fans happy with the outcome
2. it happened pre-crisis which is non-canon to both current versions of the characters
3. laser vision wouldnt be able to touch flash, flash has even outran it on occasion
4. flash could just as easily steal supermans speed making him a living statue
5. 50 infinite mass punches would KO suprman


the fight is even


My man Superman uses his super speed in running and in combat (like the Flash)-and oh add I’ll add flight while I’m at it.Yes I know Flash is faster than Superman,which explains why he can run through solid walls and Superman can’t.Batman
has actually punched the Flash making him dizzy and no it’s not to say Batman has speed or something,he just took the Flash off guard.If a punch from Batman can make Flash dizzy (yes Wally
West),imagine what a punch from Superman can do to the Flash.IT WOULD KILL HIM.One punch from Superman will end this battle and if Superman wants to deliver 50 punches a second,he could.
But that won’t be neccessary
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09 Jul 2008 06:23 pm
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Borris from Voilent Storm wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Borris from Voilent Storm wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Borris from Voilent Storm wrote: Okay guys maybe I should join in here,this thing of Flash beating Superman in a fight is way beyond me.But this battle,Superman vs the Flash-it’s obvoius Superman would beat the Flash...plain and simple!!!! And I don’t know why some people in this thread bring Spiderman in this debate,
anyway as for Superman vs the Flash

Street Fight
Superman wins

Race
Flash wins

So both heroes win in there own way

....noooo very ppor examples

for one flash can move much faster than superman and punch with the force of stars 30 times in a second (imagine superman being hit with multiple stars before he can blink)

thats one way for falsh to KO superman

another would simply be stealing his speed

both heroes can beat each otehr in a straight fight


Nope,that doesn’t really tell me why the Flash would beat Superman in a fight.Yes I’m well aware
he is faster than Superman,but Superman’s speed is 99% to that of the Flash so for Flash being faster than Superman isn’t really going to be that useful.These two have raced and even though Flash has won,in some cases the race has become a
draw.

A draw? Now what does tell you? Exactly.Remember Flash isn’t fighting someone who is “almost” fast
as him,he is fighting an alien hard as freaking steel,has heat vision,ice breath,super human strength (the most important) and flight.So yeah the odds are against the Flash here...

no, I know exactly what scan your etalking baout

flash doesnt state superman has 99% of his speed, he states superman is 99% speed of light, which is nothing to flash who can move many times faster than light (as can superman, not in combat though)

and flash losing to superman is:
1.PIS to make both fans happy with the outcome
2. it happened pre-crisis which is non-canon to both current versions of the characters
3. laser vision wouldnt be able to touch flash, flash has even outran it on occasion
4. flash could just as easily steal supermans speed making him a living statue
5. 50 infinite mass punches would KO suprman


the fight is even


My man Superman uses his super speed in running and in combat (like the Flash)-and oh add I’ll add flight while I’m at it.Yes I know Flash is faster than Superman,which explains why he can run through solid walls and Superman can’t.Batman
has actually punched the Flash making him dizzy and no it’s not to say Batman has speed or something,he just took the Flash off guard.If a punch from Batman can make Flash dizzy (yes Wally
West),imagine what a punch from Superman can do to the Flash.IT WOULD KILL HIM.One punch from Superman will end this battle and if Superman wants to deliver 50 punches a second,he could.
But that won’t be neccessary

I know...superman is very fast, however he isnt as fast as flash

and flash getting dazed by batmans punch is what we call PIS, read the rules for threads in the vs debate suggestions topic

regardless yes a punch from superman could beat flash, similarly and infinite mass punch from flash would take out superman, youre assuming flash will just seem like a blur to superman, thats where you make an error, flash has moved so fast even superman didnt realize flash was in his presence since flash was fighting so fast

the fight is pretty even
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[Quote] #95
10 Jul 2008 05:41 am
Borris from Voilent Storm
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Trackz wrote:
Borris from Voilent Storm wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Borris from Voilent Storm wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Borris from Voilent Storm wrote: Okay guys maybe I should join in here,this thing of Flash beating Superman in a fight is way beyond me.But this battle,Superman vs the Flash-it’s obvoius Superman would beat the Flash...plain and simple!!!! And I don’t know why some people in this thread bring Spiderman in this debate,
anyway as for Superman vs the Flash

Street Fight
Superman wins

Race
Flash wins

So both heroes win in there own way

....noooo very ppor examples

for one flash can move much faster than superman and punch with the force of stars 30 times in a second (imagine superman being hit with multiple stars before he can blink)

thats one way for falsh to KO superman

another would simply be stealing his speed

both heroes can beat each otehr in a straight fight


Nope,that doesn’t really tell me why the Flash would beat Superman in a fight.Yes I’m well aware
he is faster than Superman,but Superman’s speed is 99% to that of the Flash so for Flash being faster than Superman isn’t really going to be that useful.These two have raced and even though Flash has won,in some cases the race has become a
draw.

A draw? Now what does tell you? Exactly.Remember Flash isn’t fighting someone who is “almost” fast
as him,he is fighting an alien hard as freaking steel,has heat vision,ice breath,super human strength (the most important) and flight.So yeah the odds are against the Flash here...

no, I know exactly what scan your etalking baout

flash doesnt state superman has 99% of his speed, he states superman is 99% speed of light, which is nothing to flash who can move many times faster than light (as can superman, not in combat though)

and flash losing to superman is:
1.PIS to make both fans happy with the outcome
2. it happened pre-crisis which is non-canon to both current versions of the characters
3. laser vision wouldnt be able to touch flash, flash has even outran it on occasion
4. flash could just as easily steal supermans speed making him a living statue
5. 50 infinite mass punches would KO suprman


the fight is even


My man Superman uses his super speed in running and in combat (like the Flash)-and oh add I’ll add flight while I’m at it.Yes I know Flash is faster than Superman,which explains why he can run through solid walls and Superman can’t.Batman
has actually punched the Flash making him dizzy and no it’s not to say Batman has speed or something,he just took the Flash off guard.If a punch from Batman can make Flash dizzy (yes Wally
West),imagine what a punch from Superman can do to the Flash.IT WOULD KILL HIM.One punch from Superman will end this battle and if Superman wants to deliver 50 punches a second,he could.
But that won’t be neccessary

I know...superman is very fast, however he isnt as fast as flash

and flash getting dazed by batmans punch is what we call PIS, read the rules for threads in the vs debate suggestions topic

regardless yes a punch from superman could beat flash, similarly and infinite mass punch from flash would take out superman, youre assuming flash will just seem like a blur to superman, thats where you make an error, flash has moved so fast even superman didnt realize flash was in his presence since flash was fighting so fast

the fight is pretty even


I never said Superman is fast as the Flash,I know
Flash is faster than him BUT Superman’s speed makes 99% to that of Flash.If Superman wants to do things Flash does,he could-no problem.Yes there are things Flash can do and Superman can’t,
like running through solid walls or vibrating through ice like he did in the Animated Series of
Superman.


Batman punching Flash? My man theres nothing wrong with that.Flash may be “super” human but he
can get hurt like a normal human (AND I MEAN A NORMAL HUMAN) can which then proves one punch from Superman will end this battle.
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10 Jul 2008 08:17 pm
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Borris from Voilent Storm wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Borris from Voilent Storm wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Borris from Voilent Storm wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Borris from Voilent Storm wrote: Okay guys maybe I should join in here,this thing of Flash beating Superman in a fight is way beyond me.But this battle,Superman vs the Flash-it’s obvoius Superman would beat the Flash...plain and simple!!!! And I don’t know why some people in this thread bring Spiderman in this debate,
anyway as for Superman vs the Flash

Street Fight
Superman wins

Race
Flash wins

So both heroes win in there own way

....noooo very ppor examples

for one flash can move much faster than superman and punch with the force of stars 30 times in a second (imagine superman being hit with multiple stars before he can blink)

thats one way for falsh to KO superman

another would simply be stealing his speed

both heroes can beat each otehr in a straight fight


Nope,that doesn’t really tell me why the Flash would beat Superman in a fight.Yes I’m well aware
he is faster than Superman,but Superman’s speed is 99% to that of the Flash so for Flash being faster than Superman isn’t really going to be that useful.These two have raced and even though Flash has won,in some cases the race has become a
draw.

A draw? Now what does tell you? Exactly.Remember Flash isn’t fighting someone who is “almost” fast
as him,he is fighting an alien hard as freaking steel,has heat vision,ice breath,super human strength (the most important) and flight.So yeah the odds are against the Flash here...

no, I know exactly what scan your etalking baout

flash doesnt state superman has 99% of his speed, he states superman is 99% speed of light, which is nothing to flash who can move many times faster than light (as can superman, not in combat though)

and flash losing to superman is:
1.PIS to make both fans happy with the outcome
2. it happened pre-crisis which is non-canon to both current versions of the characters
3. laser vision wouldnt be able to touch flash, flash has even outran it on occasion
4. flash could just as easily steal supermans speed making him a living statue
5. 50 infinite mass punches would KO suprman


the fight is even


My man Superman uses his super speed in running and in combat (like the Flash)-and oh add I’ll add flight while I’m at it.Yes I know Flash is faster than Superman,which explains why he can run through solid walls and Superman can’t.Batman
has actually punched the Flash making him dizzy and no it’s not to say Batman has speed or something,he just took the Flash off guard.If a punch from Batman can make Flash dizzy (yes Wally
West),imagine what a punch from Superman can do to the Flash.IT WOULD KILL HIM.One punch from Superman will end this battle and if Superman wants to deliver 50 punches a second,he could.
But that won’t be neccessary

I know...superman is very fast, however he isnt as fast as flash

and flash getting dazed by batmans punch is what we call PIS, read the rules for threads in the vs debate suggestions topic

regardless yes a punch from superman could beat flash, similarly and infinite mass punch from flash would take out superman, youre assuming flash will just seem like a blur to superman, thats where you make an error, flash has moved so fast even superman didnt realize flash was in his presence since flash was fighting so fast

the fight is pretty even


I never said Superman is fast as the Flash,I know
Flash is faster than him BUT Superman’s speed makes 99% to that of Flash.If Superman wants to do things Flash does,he could-no problem.Yes there are things Flash can do and Superman can’t,
like running through solid walls or vibrating through ice like he did in the Animated Series of
Superman.


Batman punching Flash? My man theres nothing wrong with that.Flash may be “super” human but he
can get hurt like a normal human (AND I MEAN A NORMAL HUMAN) can which then proves one punch from Superman will end this battle.

....no...flash commented superman was 99% the speed of light (while running I believe) flash runs several times over th speed of light :\ if yo uwant to use that fine it just means flash is just that much faster than superman

....and the animated characters arent canon to the comics which is what we’re doing....and yes superman can vibrate though things to.

and yes there are several things wrong with batman hitting flash...you know one of them being flash reactants and moves lightyears ahead of batman and could basically make 1 second last one thousand years, batman should move in slow motion to flash, batman hitting flash is PIS
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[Quote] #97
11 Jul 2008 02:42 pm
Borris from Voilent Storm
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Trackz wrote:
Borris from Voilent Storm wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Borris from Voilent Storm wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Borris from Voilent Storm wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Borris from Voilent Storm wrote: Okay guys maybe I should join in here,this thing of Flash beating Superman in a fight is way beyond me.But this battle,Superman vs the Flash-it’s obvoius Superman would beat the Flash...plain and simple!!!! And I don’t know why some people in this thread bring Spiderman in this debate,
anyway as for Superman vs the Flash



Street Fight
Superman wins

Race
Flash wins

So both heroes win in there own way

....noooo very ppor examples

for one flash can move much faster than superman and punch with the force of stars 30 times in a second (imagine superman being hit with multiple stars before he can blink)

thats one way for falsh to KO superman

another would simply be stealing his speed

both heroes can beat each otehr in a straight fight


Nope,that doesn’t really tell me why the Flash would beat Superman in a fight.Yes I’m well aware
he is faster than Superman,but Superman’s speed is 99% to that of the Flash so for Flash being faster than Superman isn’t really going to be that useful.These two have raced and even though Flash has won,in some cases the race has become a
draw.

A draw? Now what does tell you? Exactly.Remember Flash isn’t fighting someone who is “almost” fast
as him,he is fighting an alien hard as freaking steel,has heat vision,ice breath,super human strength (the most important) and flight.So yeah the odds are against the Flash here...

no, I know exactly what scan your etalking baout

flash doesnt state superman has 99% of his speed, he states superman is 99% speed of light, which is nothing to flash who can move many times faster than light (as can superman, not in combat though)

and flash losing to superman is:
1.PIS to make both fans happy with the outcome
2. it happened pre-crisis which is non-canon to both current versions of the characters
3. laser vision wouldnt be able to touch flash, flash has even outran it on occasion
4. flash could just as easily steal supermans speed making him a living statue
5. 50 infinite mass punches would KO suprman


the fight is even


My man Superman uses his super speed in running and in combat (like the Flash)-and oh add I’ll add flight while I’m at it.Yes I know Flash is faster than Superman,which explains why he can run through solid walls and Superman can’t.Batman
has actually punched the Flash making him dizzy and no it’s not to say Batman has speed or something,he just took the Flash off guard.If a punch from Batman can make Flash dizzy (yes Wally
West),imagine what a punch from Superman can do to the Flash.IT WOULD KILL HIM.One punch from Superman will end this battle and if Superman wants to deliver 50 punches a second,he could.
But that won’t be neccessary

I know...superman is very fast, however he isnt as fast as flash

and flash getting dazed by batmans punch is what we call PIS, read the rules for threads in the vs debate suggestions topic

regardless yes a punch from superman could beat flash, similarly and infinite mass punch from flash would take out superman, youre assuming flash will just seem like a blur to superman, thats where you make an error, flash has moved so fast even superman didnt realize flash was in his presence since flash was fighting so fast

the fight is pretty even


I never said Superman is fast as the Flash,I know
Flash is faster than him BUT Superman’s speed makes 99% to that of Flash.If Superman wants to do things Flash does,he could-no problem.Yes there are things Flash can do and Superman can’t,
like running through solid walls or vibrating through ice like he did in the Animated Series of
Superman.


Batman punching Flash? My man theres nothing wrong with that.Flash may be “super” human but he
can get hurt like a normal human (AND I MEAN A NORMAL HUMAN) can which then proves one punch from Superman will end this battle.

....no...flash commented superman was 99% the speed of light (while running I believe) flash runs several times over th speed of light :\ if yo uwant to use that fine it just means flash is just that much faster than superman

....and the animated characters arent canon to the comics which is what we’re doing....and yes superman can vibrate though things to.

and yes there are several things wrong with batman hitting flash...you know one of them being flash reactants and moves lightyears ahead of batman and could basically make 1 second last one thousand years, batman should move in slow motion to flash, batman hitting flash is PIS


No it’s not “PIS”.Your forgeting something here, even though Flash is “super” human,he still can get hurt like a human.Batman’s punches can hurt the Flash-he is after all human.I find impossible
to believe Batman would move at slow motion if he
fought the Flash,your treating Flash like as if he his Spider-Man or something.Yes when Batman punched the Flash,they were not even fighting at all which is why I said Batman took Flash off guard.It’s like if you and I are in a cue line and all of a sudden I just punch you out of nowhere,that’s exactly what Batman did to Flash (meaning in other words he took a cheap shot).
If they were in battle,Flash would easly dodge Batman’s attacks like he did in the annual DC animated universe Justice League.

As for Superman vs Flash,I don’t know how many times I must tell you this.Flash is faster than Superman-I know that.I’m not saying Superman is faster,Flash is.But in a fight,Superman wins this
battle.
[Quote] #98
12 Jul 2008 06:18 am
Andy Condor
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Borris is right Trackz,theres just no way Flash would be able to beat Superman.I mean...seriously.Superman has beaton the Flash would ease,it was when he took down the entire Justice League.Superman beat Wonder Woman,Green Arrow,the Flash and I can’t remember who else.If Superman can take down Flash alongside with Wonder Woman and all, what’s going to be hard to take out Flash on 1on1 hand to hand combat?
[Quote] #99
12 Jul 2008 09:34 am
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Andy Condor wrote: Borris is right Trackz,theres just no way Flash would be able to beat Superman.I mean...seriously.Superman has beaton the Flash would ease,it was when he took down the entire Justice League.Superman beat Wonder Woman,Green Arrow,the Flash and I can’t remember who else.If Superman can take down Flash alongside with Wonder Woman and all, what’s going to be hard to take out Flash on 1on1 hand to hand combat?

everyone has had issues like that, I hope yo urealize:
green lantern has beaten the league
wonder woman has beaten the league

its nothing speical :/

and you guys dont know a lot about the flash here:

Wally outraces Superman and Jay Garrick, even though his speed was limited by Kadabra

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/kadabracwal.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/kadabracwal2.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/kadabracwal3.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/kadabracwal4.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/kadabracwal5.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/kadabracwal6.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/kadabracwal7.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/kadabracwal8.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/kadabracwal9.jpg


Absorbing the kinetic energy of a planet

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/kinteplanet.jpg

Wally Vs. Zoom (Round 2). They circle the Earth a dozen times and cover every inch of the world while fighting, and the fight lasts less than second (notice hes moving and fighting to fast ofr superman to even react to whats happening)
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/ROUNDtwoZom.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/ROUNDtwoZom2.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/ROUNDtwoZom3.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/ROUNDtwoZom4.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/ROUNDtwoZom5.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/ROUNDtwoZom6.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/ROUNDtwoZom7.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/ROUNDtwoZom8.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/ROUNDtwoZom9.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/ROUNDtwoZom10.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/ROUNDtwoZom11.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/ROUNDtwoZom12.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/ROUNDtwoZom13.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/ROUNDtwoZom14.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/ROUNDtwoZom15.jpg


During a car accident Wally’s powers kick in, everything around him appears to be frozen
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/timefre.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/timefre2.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/timefre3.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/timefre4.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/timefre5.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/timefre6.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/timefre7.jpg

he does see the world in slow motion, which is why batman hitting him shouldnt be brought up

Outraces Superman
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/supcatfla.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/supcatfla2.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/supcatfla3.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/supcatfla4.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/supcatfla5.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/supcatfla6.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/supcatfla7.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/supcatfla8.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/supcatfla9.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/supcatfla10.jpg


an example of what he can do when he steals someones speed:

Owns Inertia

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee305/Wally_Respect3/inerita.jpg
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee305/Wally_Respect3/inerita2.jpg
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee305/Wally_Respect3/inerita3.jpg
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee305/Wally_Respect3/inerita4.jpg
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee305/Wally_Respect3/inerita5.jpg
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee305/Wally_Respect3/inerita6.jpg
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee305/Wally_Respect3/inerita7.jpg
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee305/Wally_Respect3/inerita8.jpg
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[Quote] #100
12 Jul 2008 09:40 am
blizzardblaze
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superman wins this no question!flash can’t do no real damage to supes
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