shigmonty wrote:
Kyle Z wrote:
shigmonty wrote:
Actually mystic Gohan wasn’t as powerful as ssj3 Goku because Gohan got thrashed by super Buu and Goku ssj3 could have beaten kid Buu (who is the strongest of the Buu’s). Though he is stronger than ssj3 Gotanks. Who has a very durable body might I add.
...i wont even start this...ok ok SSJ3 Goku was strong but he could bearly fend of Fat Buu (Who could also fight Kid Buu), Grey Buu wooped Fat Buus ass undoubtably worse than Goku and then became the new and improved Super Buu (witc was stronger than Kid but not by a huge amount).
Now at this point Piccolo says Buu would anialate Gotenks and they had never wittnessed a power like his before, (bare in mind Gotenks SSJ was enough to beat Fat Buu) in the Time Chamber Trunks sates that they wernt even half as strong as they were now when they started that training meaning they had more than doubled there strenth in every form.
But witch made a superior Fushion 2 Buus or Goten and Trunks...Buu, so naturally normal state Gotenks was pathetic (Fat Buu thrashed it) SSJ would have beat Fat Buu no doubt and SSJ3 equald them out they dident even struggle with SSJ3 like Goku did it almost seemed natural to them.
The only thing they lacked was the Experiance witch showed in there fighting and lead to there downfall with there childish attitude, now when Gohan showed up he beat the shit out of Super Buu flawlessly he dident even break a sweat (he even said how Buu required alot more power if he ever hoped to beat him) Gohan was way beyond Buu in every sence.
The only thing that beat him was Super Buu with a Fused SSJ3 and Piccolo (who knew Gohans fighting style well) inside him, notice how Buu knew exactly what to say to crush Gohans Confidence “your brother dousent look up to you infact he wonders why you let me take him, and Trunks thinks your a cowardly diserter just like your farther” i for one wouldent be able to fight with a straight head with all the taunts he was throwing around.
Now if Goku could beat Buu why dident he if Kid Buu was the strongest he would have no problem with Super Buu so why say after getting rid of Mystic Buu “if we go out there now he is probably going to kill us” it makes no sence Goku had SSJ3 and Vegeta as back up he surely would have won if what your saying is true.
But it isnt because Goku can fight Kid Buu on equal terms from what we have seen even in SSJ2 so Kid Buu is far from the strongest of the Buus, and another thing why would Goku even suggest that Vegetas plan was to summon Gohan and Gotenks to fight Buu when he knows full well he culdent even do it.
Its quight clear by the way Goku and Vegeta react to Kid Buu and are so confident about fighting him that they think they have a shot even without Fushion (somethin Goku suggests they use on Super Buu).
so there you have it a full fleged fact file on why Super Buu pwns Kid Buu if you dont belive me please be my guest and prove me wrong, the info is all true and even consider Super Buu knew how to fight and seemed somewhat intelligent compeared to Kid lol.
(Kid is the most Dangerouse Buu he is Pure Evil has no morals or perception of right or wrong he destroys worlds without thinking witch makes him all the more deadly).
Ok first off kid buu is the strongest because goku and vegeta say he’s getting stronger after they leave his body.
yes they do that is with the Buff Buu Form witch can be seen in Wiki under his list of tranceformations, notice how it says nothing about Kid Buu being the strongest but most dangerouse, in any case Goku and Vegeta arnt sceared in the least when he reverts into Kid Buu Form.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majin_Buu#Forms_and_transformations
He’s also a little less held back. Kabeto kai was scared. And goku wasn’t fighting seriously with the fat buu.
Kabeto Kai was sceared because this Buu was pure evil with no remorse plus he watched his fellow Kais get slaughterd by this perticular Buu, he says he is the worst not strongest.
As i remember it yes Goku was stronger than Fat Buu (but he still had trouble with him and couldent deliver any major damage remember Gohan smashed Super Buu and maneged to remain untouched) and he said he probably could have beaten him probably.
Remember Majin Buu was getting stronger and he could regenerate fom every attack and wasnt nearly tierd he was haveing fun, think about it Goku only had enough power to go SSJ3 for about 10 seconds max when he showed Goten and Trunks so in that fight were Buu seemed unfazed Goku would not have lasted the distance mabe if he had really tried but we will never know.
Goku was merely trying to buy some time for the younger generation to save the world.
Actually he was allowing Trunks to collect the radar he really did not want to go SSJ3, but your quight right he wanted th boys to save the day as he wouldent be there in the future for them.
Ssj3 gotanks was only warm up for gohan. Which means gohan was a lot more powerful than gotaks ssj3. Gohan was beating the crap out of super buu. Until buu absorbed piccolo and gotanks then he got his ass handed to him.
This i already know but consider they can go SSJ3 without strain or tire, theres there advantage if they arnt wasting vital energy staying in that state then they were indeed more powerful (instead of energy loss they had time loss they could only stay like that for 5 minutes but they rechive all there power).
The best way to explain the powers is remember when Goku gos SSJ3 Piccolo says “amazing how is he generateing that much power”, then when Super Buu shows up he says “we have never wittnessed a power like this he would aniallate Gotenks”, then when Gohan shows up “Ive never experianced a power like this its outragiously strong” its setting boundrys Super Buu above Goku and Gohan ubove Buu basicaly backing what i said about Gotenks being more powerful aswell.
Now Ghan toyed with Buu without even trying he picked him apart, why couldent Goku do that to Fat Buu i mean not beat him but surely Buu wouldent have even touched him if thats the case.
Now Gotenks as i have proven is stronger than Goku merged with Buu and Piccolo was unstopable without fushion in the manga he woops Gohans ass hard but he maneges to doge deflect and escape some of his moves, in the Anime he actually fights him 1 on 1 untill his confidence is struck and he cant fight properly from then on its like the manga.
Then goku came in and held his own against the gotanks buu. While gohan was looking for the earring. But then the fusion wore off and they got complacent, then gohan got absorbed.
there are two sides to this Manga Goku craps it he really wants to merge with Gohan its the only way Buu attacks and deforms in mid flight to a petrified Goku who says “we dont need fushion Gohan could beat you now”, Anime Goku craps it really wants to fuse Buu attacks (the dumbest mistake in Z history Goku powers into SSJ3 in 1 second flat) Goku gets womped badly he couldent even hit Buu when he was trying and ends with him deforming.
Then stuff happened and when vegeta and goku left buu. They said he’s getting stronger how can this be or something to that nature. Then they had to high tale it out of there.
Buff Buu dude Buff Buu watch again there fine when they see Kid Buu, also notice how inside Buus head Super Buu kicked both thee asses together yet Goku on his own could fight Kid Buu in SSJ2?.
And they ran cus the planet was going to explode Vegeta wanted to fight him.
And goku did very well against kid buu. He could have beaten him with out the spirit bomb because goku was as strong as kid buu was. And vegeta said that “kakorot you’re a ssj3 you should have more than enough power to take him out.” something like that.
I completely agree with all of that
Now you see kid buu is the strongest buu of them all. kabeto kai even says so.
No not really now you see he isnt, i mean come on how much more proof do you need remember Gohans Mystic Goku craps it when he powers up and wonders if it can be surpassed???, and Kabito Kai never said that man.
And goku could have taken him down. The reason goku didn’t kill buu before is because each time he fought buu he was holding back to give vegeta and the others a chance to save the world. Watch the kid buu saga goku kind of says it himself. Vegeta does to.
unfortunatly despite what Goku could have done Goku dident and without Vegeta steping in to give him breaks and Fat Buu he would have died, just like he never beat Fat Buu he told Piccolo “mabe i dident stand a chance at all, i mean youve got to remember that Majin Buu is no ordinary opponent”.
Vegeta even came up with the plan to save them all, as i remember Kid Buu dident even tire from all of those fights and Goku was exhausted being in a living body so due to the energy loss situation Goku was surverely pwnd.
And as for why goku suggested vegetas plan was to bring back the boys and all them was to give them a chance to save the world.
Goku had already given them there shot he knew they were stronger and thought Vegetas plan was to overwelm Kid Buu, but Vegeta knew it would take more energy than any of them had to completely anialate Kid Buu and his constant regen and never ending stamina the Spirit Bomb.
this is for the question below, they thought it would be a fair fight cus Buu wasnt fused (neither was super Buu but Goku still wanted to fuse) and there powers wernt so far apart.
They were filled with pride and anger that’s why they didn’t fuse. So prove me wrong plz.
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