I actually think there was a “what if” comic of this. IIRC hell happened until Thor stopped him. I’ve never read the comic itself, just about it so if anyone could back this up please do.
ok the hulk is about equal to superman right? and thor is less than superman correct? now if you add venom to the hulk. Then how in the hell did he stop him? makes no sense to me.
--- OH the dragon was ablazin' as I stepped into its cage. so I cut his fu*king cockles, with a long and shinny blade.
so. if you put the hulk in his prime i believe that he would a good match vs super even with his full power. (not precrises).
if you added venom to that then his strength would more than double.
--- OH the dragon was ablazin' as I stepped into its cage. so I cut his fu*king cockles, with a long and shinny blade.
shigmonty wrote:
so. if you put the hulk in his prime i believe that he would a good match vs super even with his full power. (not precrises).
if you added venom to that then his strength would more than double.
Why venom though? That’s like the weakest symbote in the marvel universe, why not use a strong one like Carnage, Toxin, Scream, Phage, Riot, Lasher or Agony?
shigmonty wrote:
so. if you put the hulk in his prime i believe that he would a good match vs super even with his full power. (not precrises).
if you added venom to that then his strength would more than double.
Why venom though? That’s like the weakest symbote in the marvel universe, why not use a strong one like Carnage, Toxin, Scream, Phage, Riot, Lasher or Agony?
I think venom is popular, but you are right Derek, there is a whole slew of symbiotes out there that were introduced in the separation anxiety story arc.
I have been trying to track down the hulk-venom what it book, but have had no luck finding either a Scan of a hard copy. It does exist and apparently the hulk was in a weakened state and that is how the symbiote managed to possess the hulk.
shigmonty wrote:
so. if you put the hulk in his prime i believe that he would a good match vs super even with his full power. (not precrises).
if you added venom to that then his strength would more than double.
Why venom though? That’s like the weakest symbote in the marvel universe, why not use a strong one like Carnage, Toxin, Scream, Phage, Riot, Lasher or Agony?
I think venom is popular, but you are right Derek, there is a whole slew of symbiotes out there that were introduced in the separation anxiety story arc.
I have been trying to track down the hulk-venom what it book, but have had no luck finding either a Scan of a hard copy. It does exist and apparently the hulk was in a weakened state and that is how the symbiote managed to possess the hulk.
Most of those spawned from Venom, and they all have Venom’s powers along with added powers that they gained from others that they bonded with.
Why venom though? That’s like the weakest symbote in the marvel universe, why not use a strong one like Carnage, Toxin, Scream, Phage, Riot, Lasher or Agony?
because the only two that i knew of were venom and carnage. and i thought that venom was the strongest. but since there are a bunch more pick a strong one and we’ll go with that one.
and another thing can they take over the same dude?
--- OH the dragon was ablazin' as I stepped into its cage. so I cut his fu*king cockles, with a long and shinny blade.
derdev789 wrote:
Why venom though? That’s like the weakest symbote in the marvel universe, why not use a strong one like Carnage, Toxin, Scream, Phage, Riot, Lasher or Agony?
because the only two that i knew of were venom and carnage. and i thought that venom was the strongest. but since there are a bunch more pick a strong one and we’ll go with that one.
and another thing can they take over the same dude?
I suppose it’s possible? But basicly every symbote hates eachother. I’d say Carnage is one of the strongest, but his children are also rediculously overpowered.
WHAT IF vol 2 #4 What if the Alien Costume had Possessed Spider-Man?
The story starts with Spidey and Black Cat making out after he returned from Beyonder’s planet. They both realize Peter isn’t very well, and Peter goes to Fantastic 4’s H.Q. searching for Reed, but he finds nobody. Going to Curt Connors, he does some physical tests, but he finds no reason to Spidey’s fatigue. Days later, Spidey returns to the F4, to hear the bad news. But in this reality, the sonic blast doesn’t break the bond between the creature and the host. The Symbiotic Spider-Man’s mind is now controlled by the creature, and Reed has no other choice than to shoot it point blank with the sonic gun in its max power, which KO’s Spidey, but doesn’t split the bond.
Science and magic fail to sever the connection between Spidey and the symbiote, as both Reed Richards and Doctor Strange realise that their knowledge has been useless so far. The symbiote claims that he and Spider-Man are now one, and no power in the Universe can split them apart, and takes the opportunity to escape, as his captors are concerned with what to do next. Due to his Spider-Sense and the symbiote’s camouflage powers, the Symbiotic Spider-Man was able to remain undetected by Richards for days. Meanwhile, Peter tried to call Felicia Hardy, but the symbiote’s control kicked in while he was talking, informing her that Spider-Man was no more. She storms at Reed Richards for not searching for Spidey, and out of hate and spite, robs an auction house to give some gems to the poor... Huh?! Where did that come from? Anyone sees some sense in this?
Days later, the SHIELD agents die, as no Spidey is there to save them. A rampaging Hulk battles Thor while Strange tries to send him to an alternate plane, until they realise how to reverse the doing of Nightmare, Strange’s foe, who caused Hulk’s insanity. But before the Hulk falls through the dimensional gate, Symbiotic Spidey shows up, KO’s Strange and the symbiote leaves Spidey for the Hulk. As the Wasp approaches Peter, she sees the body of an 80-year old man pleading for help. The Avengers try to overwhelm the symbiotic Hulk, but since Hulk’s mind is weak, the symbiote quickly takes control over Hulk’s power, thwarts the Avengers and flees.
At the Avengers' mansion, Thor stands by Peter’s bed, while Peter explains that the symbiote feeds on human adrenalin, specially from super-beings. That’s why it always kept Spidey on the move. When the adrenalin source was almost depleted, it abandoned him for the Hulk. Black Cat says that they must kill the monster, and Thor reasons that doing so would kill Bruce Banner. While Black Cat claims it doesn’t matter, justice should be done, Peter isn’t giving much thought to that. He has lost 50 years of his life.
A week later, Peter visits his his aunt’s house. He introduces as Harrison, from the Bugle, and says that Peter talks a lot about her, that he loves her very much, and that Peter will return, to have faith. Then he leaves, as May and MJ hold each other. MJ realises that one of Spider-Man’s enemies must have finally achieved his goal.
Next morning, in the Avengers mansion, Reed knocks on Peter’s door, to compare their notes on the symbiote. He finds Peter Parker lying on the floor, dead of old age. The World’s greatest heroes grieve at Spider-Man’s funeral, with Johnny Storm speeching, Black Cat watches over at the grave’s feet, and while all the heroes are sad, Thor is down on one knee, apparently crying. As everybody leaves, Black Cat remains. Hours pass, and the Kingpin arrives, to pay his respect to a valuable Man. Then, they leave together.
At the F4 H.Q., after examining Peter’s notes for the last days, Reed concludes that Peter was a genius, who could have had a great future ahead. Adding them to his own, he built a tracking device and a weapon to kill the entity. The Avengers, the F4 and Doctor Strange trace the signal to Mount Rushmore, where they split to find the symbiotic Hulk. It’s Thor that finds him, and after they fight, the symbiote leaves Banner’s body, and overtakes Thor, claiming to have all the powers of his hosts. Thor’s attempts to resist only weaken him, and the heroes watch symbiotic Thor enter a cave, to complete the binding, promising that he’ll exit it to kill them soon. Richards has one last plan before using the weapon. He summons Blackbolt, the leader of the Inhumans, who enters the cave, and while a desperate symbiotic entity attacks in fear, he screams. When the dust settles, there is no more Mount Rushmore, and Thor rises battered, with the symbiote lying on the floor. It was still vulnerable to sound. The symbiote was still alive, though, and while Strange was trying to send him to the same dimension he tried to send the Hulk, Black Cat shows up, with a gun identical to Reed’s, and she kills the creature. She vents her anger on the heroes, telling them that they’ll never know the price she paid to have justice being done.
She had given a copy of Peter and Reed’s notes about the weapon, and gave them to the Kingpin. She got her weapon, in exchange for a life of criminal service...
shigmonty wrote:
then how come when they fought supes couldn’t take the hulk out? they were pretty much even in there fight.
...what’re you talking about hen they made hulk and superman fight super beat him, he said he got mad then when hulk went to pucnh him superman didn’t even move, then he knocked the hulk out. even batmans has beaten the hulk (spread sleeping gas around then kicked hulk in the stomach so he would breathe it in)
shigmonty wrote:
what would happen if the hulk was engulfed by the entity that created venom?
Doesn’t exist, but if it did... Yeah sorry but Venom was actually a mutant from a parasidic species. It was the first of it’s kind to evolve into a symbiote. Definately not created by an entity. Unless you mean the god’s of DC who created all life.
shigmonty wrote:
what would happen if the hulk was engulfed by the entity that created venom?
Doesn’t exist, but if it did... Yeah sorry but Venom was actually a mutant from a parasidic species. It was the first of it’s kind to evolve into a symbiote. Definately not created by an entity. Unless you mean the god’s of DC who created all life.
umm Venom was originally found on a world called “Battleworld” created by the Beyonder, in The Secret Wars series.....
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