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#41
10 Jul 2007 03:24 am
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The next warning results in his ban like any other member.

#42
10 Jul 2007 03:30 am
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Cid wrote: Wolfy, did you even read the idea of the 5 strikes?

Yes, but 5 strikes is more than any other member gets.

Who’s to say that Bjarne would even listen?

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#43
10 Jul 2007 06:30 am
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MVC reminds me too much of Lord Of The Flies.

All the little divisions, the power struggles, the path towards destruction, etc.

Great care needs to be taken before tweaking with Moderator rules/abilities.

I’m all for moderator transparency among themselves, but Moderators should always be set up as a type of council, rather than a heirachy of command.

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11 Jul 2007 11:15 pm
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I agree with Wolfies decision, but in my opinion, the real problem here stems from Bjarne’s overall lack of involvement in this site. If Bjarne had merely been around to notice what Weeman had done, he might have taken action against him, but instead he was gone, like he always is, unable or unwilling to do anything pro-actively for the site. What I personally feel should happen, and I believe that I have stated this before, is that another rank, one above that of moderator, should be implemented, a rank that gives them even more powers, possibly the ability to mess with some of the sites code. This rank would be below Bjarne, but above the rest of the moderating team and would have the ability to demote or ban the moderators on the site.

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11 Jul 2007 11:20 pm
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i agree with derdev, and i also think that that should be pretty much the honer of honers. looking at every member of this sight, i only see gr being qualified. maybe firewolf eventualy, but for now, he is still to new. i also think that there should be a lower rank that can edit posts, move topics, ban for at the most a week (and maybe not even that), justa few things like that. that could be a good place for peole who want to become mods so the current mod team can sort of evaluate them and see how they work under pressure without having to give them full power yet.

but, ya, i agree with the first post. a few mods seem to have done this a little, but i think it should be standard.

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firewolf81 wrote:
car dice13 wrote: *looks at your avy*

Ah huh, where lies the problem, no nudity, no explictness just one furry bouncing on another furry....bit hard to have sex if you have all your clothes on now isn’t it.


Dude firewolf I don’t care how You try and cut it. That AVY is VERY borderline. I’ve seen people get bitched at for pretty much the same thing. But it doesn’t bother me much. Just kinda disturbing. lol And you can have sex with all Your clothes on. Its called dry humping. Or maybe he just unziped his zipper, Stuck his didey out and slipped it under her skirt. So idk. Whatever.

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13 Jul 2007 08:35 pm
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Brutus Kicks Ass wrote:
firewolf81 wrote:
car dice13 wrote: *looks at your avy*

Ah huh, where lies the problem, no nudity, no explictness just one furry bouncing on another furry....bit hard to have sex if you have all your clothes on now isn’t it.


Dude firewolf I don’t care how You try and cut it. That AVY is VERY borderline. I’ve seen people get bitched at for pretty much the same thing. But it doesn’t bother me much. Just kinda disturbing. lol And you can have sex with all Your clothes on. Its called dry humping. Or maybe he just unziped his zipper, Stuck his didey out and slipped it under her skirt. So idk. Whatever.

Same goes for your sig my friend.

People oftan smoke after sexual fulfillment and Bruce’s hand is at the right angle and the right area for him to be masturbating, but you cant see what he is holding onto...very borderline...very borderline indeed!

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13 Jul 2007 09:27 pm
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firewolf81 wrote:
Brutus Kicks Ass wrote:
firewolf81 wrote:
car dice13 wrote: *looks at your avy*

Ah huh, where lies the problem, no nudity, no explictness just one furry bouncing on another furry....bit hard to have sex if you have all your clothes on now isn’t it.


Dude firewolf I don’t care how You try and cut it. That AVY is VERY borderline. I’ve seen people get bitched at for pretty much the same thing. But it doesn’t bother me much. Just kinda disturbing. lol And you can have sex with all Your clothes on. Its called dry humping. Or maybe he just unziped his zipper, Stuck his didey out and slipped it under her skirt. So idk. Whatever.

Same goes for your sig my friend.

People oftan smoke after sexual fulfillment and Bruce’s hand is at the right angle and the right area for him to be masturbating, but you cant see what he is holding onto...very borderline...very borderline indeed!


lmao, srry firewolf nice try. He has a gun under his arm. And hes checking his clip to see how many bullets there are in it. You can even see the clip.

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Yippie Kai Aye, Motherf*cker!! [size=1]post[/post]: Yea: posting just for the sake of posting is wrong, Now posting to get your post count up is a totally different story.
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18 Jul 2007 05:35 am
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OH MY..........No matter what, a mod could go crazy and shut down MVC and rid it of its history forever.......O.o

I mean, you could spend the time before it opening up all the topics to the point of deletion and then just click delete one after the other and MVc would disappear forever.


(this reply refers to page 1 of the topic)

Thought of this a long time ago. And actually I’m already guarding against this. When a message or a topic is deleted it isn’t really “deleted” as in “gone forever”, but, basically, just made invisible (backed up). I can undelete stuff if necessary.... Also I can see exactly which mod did what and when (logging).

Regading the idea of giving moderators, in essense two seperate accounts. One normal and one for moderation I’ll say this:
*Right now they can just register for a second normal user account and use that for posting - and then only use their moderator account when they need to moderate something. This normal account can be banned and whatnot by other mods.
*Currently it’s not possible to have two accounts by the same name (I assume this is more or less what is requested) and it will not be enabled. HOWEVER: At some time the user type/permissions system will be improved and when this happens I think it may actually be perfectly possible to ban a moderator and whatnot (permissions will be seperate from the user account itself). (Actually right now this is how it goes: members/guests < moderators < me : I can ban and moderate posts made by moderators if necessary)

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Last edited 18 Jul 2007 05:38 am by Bjarne
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18 Jul 2007 05:45 am
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Regarding moderators and when they act biased, abuse their powers or otherwise, in your opinion deserve demotion or some other form of punishment please keep in mind that while I’m on the site almost every day, I rarely have the time to actually read everything (or even a fraction) of what is posted. Therefore do this:
PM me including links to posts/topics. Describe what has happened and why you think a moderator deserves demotion/punishment.


What a moderator can do to you, I can do to a moderator...

Moderators are NOT AND MUST NOT BE allowed to abuse their power and relative immunity to do things that break the rules. The same rules must apply to all (including moderators and I)

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Last edited 18 Jul 2007 05:52 am by Bjarne
#51
22 Jul 2007 02:17 pm
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My personal opinion is that our moderators are too damn lenient on this site. On any other site for some of the actions members have taken here would get perma bans in the matter of seconds. Such as the whole controversy between myself and 21 as of late. I can tell you on any other forum I and 21 would have been temp banned immediately and his OP account would have been perma banned.

I think the problems are our mods think that they have to get assurance from others to do their job. They are afraid if they make a mistake people will hate them or the admin, you Bjarne, will demote them for our actions. They shouldn’t have to worry about that. They should do their job accordingly keeping the forum strict but free. Not run a dictatorship but not let people simply do what they want. I think only SA-X has done that right and that’s why he’s built up the most hate cause people are too damn used to getting off easy.

But that’s the problem I’m seeing. I think we need our mods to be more strict and they need to have without fear or regret of their decisions. That’s my personal look on this.

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22 Jul 2007 07:59 pm
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You would have been permanently banned for upholding Nazi-like opinions. wink
Why is discriminating against Nazis against the rules? That’s bullshit.

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22 Jul 2007 08:01 pm
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For the love of pete let’s not get that started up again...>.<

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22 Jul 2007 08:02 pm
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Online Predator wrote: You would have been permanently banned for upholding Nazi-like opinions. wink
Why is discriminating against Nazis against the rules? That’s bullshit.


yea!!

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Yippie Kai Aye, Motherf*cker!! [size=1]post[/post]: Yea: posting just for the sake of posting is wrong, Now posting to get your post count up is a totally different story.
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Tyreaus wrote: For the love of pete let’s not get that started up again...>.<


yea

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Yippie Kai Aye, Motherf*cker!! [size=1]post[/post]: Yea: posting just for the sake of posting is wrong, Now posting to get your post count up is a totally different story.
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22 Jul 2007 08:03 pm
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Zucas was the one that brought it up again. I know for a fact he would have been permanently banned for supporting what Ram said.
Oh yeah, and why are people allowed to discriminate against religion?
I can’t discriminate against Nazis and yet people can discriminate against religion. That makes no sense.

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22 Jul 2007 08:04 pm
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Online Predator wrote: Zucas was the one that brought it up again. I know for a fact he would have been permanently banned for supporting what Ram said.
Oh yeah, and why are people allowed to discriminate against religion?
I can’t discriminate against Nazis and yet people can discriminate against religion. That makes no sense.


yea!!

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Yippie Kai Aye, Motherf*cker!! [size=1]post[/post]: Yea: posting just for the sake of posting is wrong, Now posting to get your post count up is a totally different story.
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OP, both of you were warned for prolonging the entire thing and spamming/excessive flamming. As I see it, what you were warned for, he was.
Either way, what you said before is just ingrediants to start up the initial problem all over again...

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What he said before my post was. I thought it was over but no, he hates me so much he has to try and get me banned. I was warned for discrimination against other people’s beliefs or in other words Zucas support of Ram’s Nazi-like quote.

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22 Jul 2007 08:20 pm
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Tyreaus wrote: OP, both of you were warned for prolonging the entire thing and spamming/excessive flamming. As I see it, what you were warned for, he was.
Either way, what you said before is just ingrediants to start up the initial problem all over again...


yea

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Yippie Kai Aye, Motherf*cker!! [size=1]post[/post]: Yea: posting just for the sake of posting is wrong, Now posting to get your post count up is a totally different story.
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