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26 Jul 2007 06:31 am
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You people get what they are saying? We, at this moment, have the power to have free/nearly free, unlimited energy. and yet the Government, the power hungry men of the world, take order and dispose of anyone who tries something like this.

My friends father worked on stuff like this, about 2 years ago the SWAT team kicked down his door and took him away, my friend still hasn’t seen his father yet.

I don’t know if what all these people said is true, but i do know stuff like this does in fact happen.

The US government went to war for materials that we didn’t even need! do you know how messed up that is/ getting in a big war, innocents killed, just to get something we have unlimited amount of...

Give me a moment...
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26 Jul 2007 06:39 am
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Conspiracy theory. Although the oil companies do have too much power, they don’t run governments, nor do they hunt down and kidnap people (mistakenly) working towards 'free energy' machines.

There’s no such thing as an unlimited, free energy source. The closest you’ll ever get is solar panels, wind turbines and tidal generators.

There’s no way to magically tap into energy floating around the universe. Once energy has been transferred, it dissipates, leaving the 'background' energy of the universe as so unimaginably weak and dilute, it’s impossible to use.

Free energy is a fantasy.
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26 Jul 2007 06:40 am
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I heard about the water engine be for but. I herd that the oil companies Burt the right to it and the guys silents for moor money then most of us well ever see. That guy well never have to work again.

But I can well believe that the oil companies wouled kill. Where ever you got big money like that you got corruption.
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^^^ this really works, i’ve tried it. (Twas Da Vinci’s idea)

All perpetual are said to not work as a machine cannot make something out of nothing, such as energy.

But the breaking variable is gravity, unlike magnetism (like on of my previous ideas) gravity doesn’t just wear off after a while, Gravity is the big key to unlimited energy.
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26 Jul 2007 06:42 am
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DrumIntoTheNight wrote: Conspiracy theory. Although the oil companies do have too much power, they don’t run governments, nor do they hunt down and kidnap people (mistakenly) working towards 'free energy' machines.

There’s no such thing as an unlimited, free energy source. The closest you’ll ever get is solar panels, wind turbines and tidal generators.

There’s no way to magically tap into energy floating around the universe. Once energy has been transferred, it dissipates, leaving the 'background' energy of the universe as so unimaginably weak and dilute, it’s impossible to use.

Free energy is a fantasy.


To a certain degree, yes, but not completely.
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26 Jul 2007 06:44 am
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DrumIntoTheNight wrote: Conspiracy theory. Although the oil companies do have too much power, they don’t run governments, nor do they hunt down and kidnap people (mistakenly) working towards 'free energy' machines.

There’s no such thing as an unlimited, free energy source. The closest you’ll ever get is solar panels, wind turbines and tidal generators.

There’s no way to magically tap into energy floating around the universe. Once energy has been transferred, it dissipates, leaving the 'background' energy of the universe as so unimaginably weak and dilute, it’s impossible to use.

Free energy is a fantasy.


I believe the oil companies wouled do all that. Its a fantasy to think that there wouled not. Why would it be inposerbol to have a water engine.
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26 Jul 2007 06:48 am
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Oh come off it. Any physics student, or person with a reasonable understanding of the real world will tell you that perpetual motion machines are impossible. That would imply that a machine is over 100% efficient; an impossibility that would break the law of conservation of energy.
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26 Jul 2007 06:53 am
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I certainly think there’s other ways of powering engines and hower homes free of harmful fossils.

But when you have that much money involved and the government makes a mint out of all the taxers as well its never going to happen because of them reasons
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DrumIntoTheNight wrote: Oh come off it. Any physics student, or person with a reasonable understanding of the real world will tell you that perpetual motion machines are impossible. That would imply that a machine is over 100% efficient; an impossibility that would break the law of conservation of energy.




This is my point, gravity is the x Variable in the equation, you let gravity give you back more energy and work then what your machines uses up, and thusly more energy.
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26 Jul 2007 06:56 am
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pluto wrote: I certainly think there’s other ways of powering engines and hower homes free of harmful fossils.


Of course. But the dream of extracting energy for nothing from the universe itself, or from a machine that can continue a movement forever, will always remain a dream.

It’s actually probably quite likely that Oil companies keep renewable energy firms under wraps.
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26 Jul 2007 07:05 am
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Ok, here is an idea.

You put a small generator in space, make sure there is no air in the chamber, you have a machine spin the magnet inside the generator (the magnet must be free floating and not attached to anything because friction would slow it down and stop it)

The magnet spins forever inside the chamber, creating electricity, and on the rare occasions it free floats out of position, a small machine moves it back into place, and this machine will use nearly no energy as objects weigh nothing.

just thoughts, not saying they would work.
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26 Jul 2007 07:08 am
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NEREVAR117 wrote: Ok, here is an idea.

You put a small generator in space, make sure there is no air in the chamber, you have a machine spin the magnet inside the generator (the magnet must be free floating and not attached to anything because friction would slow it down and stop it)

The magnet spins forever inside the chamber, creating electricity, and on the rare occasions it free floats out of position, a small machine moves it back into place, and this machine will use nearly no energy as objects weigh nothing.

just thoughts, not saying they would work.


Generators need a power input because the magnetic forces created by the induced current resist the motion of the magnet, thereby slowing the motor down.

Wouldn’t work.
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26 Jul 2007 07:21 am
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NEREVAR117 wrote:
DrumIntoTheNight wrote: Oh come off it. Any physics student, or person with a reasonable understanding of the real world will tell you that perpetual motion machines are impossible. That would imply that a machine is over 100% efficient; an impossibility that would break the law of conservation of energy.




This is my point, gravity is the x Variable in the equation, you let gravity give you back more energy and work then what your machines uses up, and thusly more energy.


Read my post again. It’s impossible. It would break the fundamental laws of physics.
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26 Jul 2007 07:42 am
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because gravity acts on the whole thing, not just the bit you want it to.
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None of this is possible.

Energy has to come from somewhere.

And the 2 perpetual motion devices wouldn’t work because friction would eventually eat all kinetic energy.
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26 Jul 2007 08:14 am
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I’m waiting for zero point energy module powered ipods...
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26 Jul 2007 09:00 am
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Water works, but what I would want would be super compressed o2. That could also work, its not perpetual, but it is viable.

But then, if it did work, in 100 years guess what... Big Oxygen.
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26 Jul 2007 07:32 pm
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what about a inverter - i own one it converts a car batterys 12volt dc power into 110volt ac 400 watt household current - it may not be free but couldnt they make a larger one that could drasticly improve a power plants performance - i dont see why not
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how do you think power lines work?
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26 Jul 2007 08:46 pm
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SO the government has control over the energy companies, but the companies could just shut off anytime they feel like doing so and corrupt the whole country. Scary. sad
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