4.48 million PS3's sold, Sony aiming for 14.5 Million by March 08!!!

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It still says 5.5 million shipped from a while back. So if a past report says 5.5 million shipped something doesn’t add up with this whole conspiracy theory you guys have put together with less than 5.5 million being shipped.

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It says that 5.5 million were produced and shipped to Sony’s warehouse. Why do you think this financial report came out to make the statement that they are no longer using the method of counting production shipments and instead are using recorded sales.

And as I stated recorded sales is exactly how it sounds. Sony’s recorded data on how many PS3’s it’s sold. And simple knowledge of knowning how to read a financial report would easily tell the simplest of minds that Sony, like every company, sales units to retailers. That’s why they call them sold... sold to retailers. But that’s actually shipments. Just not to them. Sony doesn’t comment on sold to consumers cause financially it doesnt' affect them at all. They’ve already sold them.

It’s 4.28 million shipped and 5.5 million produced.

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You’re bullshitting. I think PROFESSIONAL sites understand this better than you do because everything you say regarding this contradicts everything they say.
You say that the report of past said 5.5 million was produced and that was from May. Now if 5.5 million PS3’s were produced then why is it still at 5.5 million produced now? That makes no sense.

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Believe what you want but I’m right. There is a reason why VGCharts didn’t change their numbers to 4.28 million with the release of that financial report because the owner of the site is smart enough to know how to read financial reports.

But I’ve explained this as thorougly as possible. If ya dont' believe me ask GG and he’ll tell you the exact same thing as I said. Ask him if Sony says in their financial report that 4.28 milllion units of PS3 have been sold does that mean sold to consumers or sold to retailers. He’ll tell you exactly what I said becuase Sony, like all companies, sale their products to retailers directly not to comsumers.

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go 2 VG charts.......it wasnt a while bak. Sony’s shipped 4.5 million but they haven’t sold that many.

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Why would it be the same number between quarters? Easy. Sony discontinued the 60gb remember.

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Don’t rely on those sites. It’s 5.5 million shipped. I already posted the links.

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But just on a side note gentlement it’s not 4.5 million shipped. It’s 4.28 million haha. I really don’t know where these people are getting 4.5 million from. Wehther you know the difference between shipped and actually sold you can easily add 3.57 and .71 and get 4.28. I mean it’s in that link to Sony’s financial report. If ya don’t know anything else at least know that it’s 4.28 and not 4.5. I want to know that people can do simple addition.

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They just discontinued it and they already have the 80 gigs being produced unless you are saying Sony spent the past few months producing nothing, which wouldn’t happen if they expect to sell the product.

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yea but Zucas’s link is up to date and shows Sony sales, ect.

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And the past financial port I posted shows that 5.5 million were 'shipped' or in Zucas' case 'produced'.
Now why would the number stay at 5.5 million for the past couple months?

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No they just announced discontinued it. They probably discontinued it otherwise that 5.5 million would have been noted as being higher this quarter.

So they produced no 60gb this quarter. Now good question with well they have been producing 80gb. Good question but once again another easy answer. Sony doesnt' produce the units. A manufactorer does. And then once they are produced they are shipped to Sony warehouses. It’s obvious none of these were shipped to Sony warehouses yet. Probably something done purposely. Why you ask? Well if they were shipped Sony would have to include all those shipments to their warehouses in their financial report. Meaning they would have lost millions having to include that in there. Something they didn’t want to do as that would have ended their record profits for this quarter.

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dunno....,,nut NPD sales show PS3 less than 4 million sold.

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Then that means all the Sony reports are unreliable and they the shipments had to be 5.5 million but they lied by saying the shipments were lower in that last report, if that was read correctly, to make it look like the estimate of 4.5 million was higher. It makes it look like the machine is selling so the real shipments have to be 5.5 million.

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Well this might start to get confusing but there’s a difference between production shipments and regular shipments. Production shipments are the number of units shipped from the manufactorer to Sony. While shipments is the number of units shipped from Sony to the retailers and those units are sold by the way. So far sold to consumers has yet to come out cuase Sony nor any company comments on that kinda stuff in a financial report. Why you ask? Another easy answer. Sony already sold them to the retailers meaning how many are sold to consumers has no affect financially on them. It’s 4.28 million shipped and 5.5 million produced.

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I remember 5.5 million being shipped as of January, which explains why so many PS3’s filled the shelves but if it was less than that then where did all those PS3’s filling the shelves come from.
I know wikipedia is unreliable but its a substitute for now until I can look through past articles.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ps3#Sales_and_pricing

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Well whether or not we discuss what it means the 5.5 million number was announced in Sony’s end of the fiscal year 2007, which is the end of March 2007.

You know I think we had an arguement about that fiscal report along somethinf of the lines of this. Hmm let me see if I can find that old topic cuase I think I posted something where Sony had massively overshipped but then found another thing that said only 3.6 million of those had made it to retailer. That would put strong support on my case of the 5.5 million number being produced.

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Now that is what does not make sense. First there is the over shipping and all the extra PS3s and now there is overshipping with numbers less then before. Both stories contradict each other greatly, especially with all the extra PS3s that were lying around and weren’t selling.

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Oh I found it. These were for the financial report as of the end of March 2007 for Sony:

Only 3.6 Million PS3’s Actually in Retailer’s Hands

However, investors were in for a nasty surprise on May 16: Sony failed to hit its own PS3 sales targets, Chief Financial Officer Nobuyuki Oneda said. Although the company had forecast global shipments of 6 million machines by the Mar. 31 end of its fiscal year, its factories made and sent off just 5.5 million. Worse, the actual number of PS3s in stores was closer to 3.6 million. The remaining 1.9 million were either sitting in warehouses or en route to stores, leaving as much as $1.1 billion in inventory. Perhaps that’s why the company chose to stick to a more conservative sales forecast of 11 million units this year.



I think this should better explain what I’m trying to say with the difference of produced and shipped.

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By that the 5.5 million was still there and that would mean that the claimed number 'produced' you said earlier has to be wrong.

Last edited 28 Jul 2007 01:21 am by the21gamer