oh and btw the law of gravity or any other law is verrry diffrent from evolution because evolution deals with life. if it is a law then its probably the only law that governs life, scientifically.
ramunematt wrote:
Creationism, Jesus, Noah’s Ark, etc.
creationism. i take it u find that earth being created in six days is ridiculous. well it wasnt created in six 24 hour days. the word day means an era. just like when someone says back in shakespeares day they dont mean one 24 hour day. so yes creationism is a belief that earth was made in six 24 hour days and i dont believe that. i believe it was made in six stages those stages lasting between thousands and millions of years.
i cant guess what u find ridiculous about jesus and noahs ark.
Dude, the Earth took literally millions of years to create. The belief that it was created in six days or stages is ridiculous. The scientific method clearly states that the Earth is 4.5 billions years old. There is no evidence to suggests otherwise, nor is there evidence that would support Noah’s Ark ever happened or that Jesus was supernatural.
uh.....thats what i said. stages that lasted millions of years.
about noahs ark that was thousands of years ago. and noah’s ark was made of wood it wasnt some aircraft carrier. what are tha chances of finding a wooden ark made thousands of years ago. hell people thought troy didnt exist until they found it.
how do u expect people to find evidence that jesus did miracles? its highly unlikely.
Which is why neither of them are believable. They are about the supernatural and there is no verifiable evidence that it ever happened. What reason could you possibly have to believe in this?
ok, so your saying if something lacks evidence then it is unreasonable to believe in it. well then i guess it is unreasonable to be an atheist because they have NO proof that God doesnt exists. it is unreasonable to believe in evolution because evolution has not been proven. it is unreasonable to believe in what anybody says until you have found evidence that what they say is true.
Through observation we have actually found that the chances of god existing are very small. You know that “Boeing 747” argument creationists try to use against evolution? Well God is the ultimate Boeing 747. Just because something can’t be disproven doesn’t mean it exists or even probably that it exists. You can’t disprove that there isn’t a flying spaghetti monster somewhere in the universe. You can’t disprove that there is a two headed invisible green elephant that can go through walls somewhere in your house. Believing in something just because you can’t disprove it is not only irrational, but insane. The burden of proof is left to the believers, not the atheists. They are the ones who believe, not us. And BTW evolution is pretty much proven. We have mountains of evidence that support evolution. It is known as a scientific fact and is the only workable answer that explains how we got here.
how exactly did we find the chances of Gods existence to be small when we cant observe him?
we believe in many things that we dont need to prove. but not for no reason. it has to make sense. and God creating life is more reasonable than life being created by nothing. evolution doesnt think, its an idea not a person, its dumb. imagine that? us being created by dumb luck. knowledge does not come from dumb luck.
evolution has not been proven. if in fact if there are mountains of evidence why dont u tell me a few?
Well I’m no biologist so I can’t tell you every single piece of evidence that we have of evolution. For now I’m just going to tell you that we have transitional fossils, genetic evidence and have observed natural selection at work. These are huge pieces of irrefutable evidence that support evolution. Your welcome to look it up for yourself if you want, because from your post it seems you think evolution is random or accidental. If you know about evolution you would know that it is far from random or accidental. Evolution is a law, like gravity. It doesn’t need to be able to think in order to work, and it is very accepted among the scientific community as opposed to creationism.
And BTW, you think God creating life is more reasonable than us getting here from evolution? Creationism creates a bigger problem than it solves, which is, “who created god”? Creationism ultimately results in infinite regress, thus explaining nothing of how we got here.
BTW, here is a little video about evolution
first off i am not a creationist. creationists believe that the world was created in six days. i dont believe that. however i do believe that we were created by God but that still does not make me a creationist.
can u give me more details on how these “evidence” support evolution? i know i can look it up myself but i want to know what YOU know about it. tell me in your own words.
evolution is a law like gravity? hmm. sounds interesting but how does it work? gravity is easier to understand because i can see it work. but i cant see evolution working and so i need evidence just as you need evidence to believe in God.
the concept of God not being created may be very hard to grasp. but you can liken it to many things in this world. like time. time does not end and it has no beginning. that is not proven but we accept it as fact. astronomers find no begining or end to space. talk about infinity huh?
thanks for the video. ill watch it but i have dial up so it may take a while.
If you believe we were created by God then your a creationist. There different types of creationists such as the ones that believe the Earth is 6000 years old, and the ones that believe God created evolution. Either way if you believe god created us then your a creationist. And I’m sure you can look on the Internet for yourself about all the evidence of evolution, you would be surprised how much evidence we have. If I put all of it in my own words you might be reading for awhile. It baffles me how some people ignore the evidence completely in favor of Bronze Age myths. And yes, we have observed evolution on ALL levels. These levels are new biosynthetic pathways, speciation, and variation of a feature in a population due to environmental pressure. And like gravity, you can see evolution at work too. If you have a dog, then your looking at a product of selective breeding, which is part of evolution. The concept of god is nothing more than a lazy hypothesis. When asked a question such as and they answer, “god did it”, they’re basically saying “I don’t know”.
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the21gamer wrote:
fuck that load of bullshit. i dont care if the enemy dies. not fighting back is stupid
I agree with your statement, most religion people are close minded people,Christians or any kind of religion are far more likely to be ignorant than most, for example evolution most scientist think we involve from monkeys into man, and there’s actually evidence in the fossils records, and the other hand Christianity mostly would ignore any evidence so and so.
ramunematt wrote:
If you believe we were created by God then your a creationist. There different types of creationists such as the ones that believe the Earth is 6000 years old, and the ones that believe God created evolution. Either way if you believe god created us then your a creationist. And I’m sure you can look on the Internet for yourself about all the evidence of evolution, you would be surprised how much evidence we have. If I put all of it in my own words you might be reading for awhile. It baffles me how some people ignore the evidence completely in favor of Bronze Age myths. And yes, we have observed evolution on ALL levels. These levels are new biosynthetic pathways, speciation, and variation of a feature in a population due to environmental pressure. And like gravity, you can see evolution at work too. If you have a dog, then your looking at a product of selective breeding, which is part of evolution. The concept of god is nothing more than a lazy hypothesis. When asked a question such as and they answer, “god did it”, they’re basically saying “I don’t know”.
“The term creationism is generally used to describe the belief that creation occurred literally as described in the book of Genesis."
u cant just look on the internet for evidence. for example, u are trying to solve a murder, how do u gather evidence? only by looking on the internet? are u gonna buy blood samples on ebay? or guns or bullets? thats not evidence.
plus theres always the possibility that an “evidence” is just another hoax.
dogs dont prove that all life forms are related. sure they vary alot but a chihuahua is still a dog and a german shepherd is still a dog.
i wonder where most evolutionists gather their information. i wonder how many of these “evidence” have they seen and examined personally. funny how they can believe in them without seeing them yet when it comes to God they absolutely have to see evidence.
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ramunematt wrote:
people dont hold debates about the existence of gravity or atoms.
there is more dispute about evolution. why teach something that has not been established and commonly accepted? it only creates conflict.
10. evolution has nothing to do with the origin of life? thats odd. so where did the first single celled organisms come from? i feel that evolutionist dont like discussing about the origin of life because they have no idea how life came to be so they say it has nothing to do with evolution. if evolution exists then the origin of life will be the foundation of evolution. how can the foundation be unimportant?
and the example they used was really biased. they said “music when they shouldve said “performance. if they couldnt get to the concert hall then there wouldnt be a performance.
9. i didnt really get that reason so.....yeah.
8. transitional fossils? most of what they showed were drawings! drawings are not fossils. and the ones that were fossils were just skulls. skulls that couldve been owned by chimps and apes. and in the end they said “just to name a few”, well compared to every species that lived on this planet, that is not even a few. thats almost nothing.
7. what is the probability of something that doesnt think creating a purpose filled planet?
also the illustration had only six balls. imagine how long it would take to get them in order if there was a hundred.
natural selection keeps the good and discards the bad? then why are there so many bad things going on in this world? the bible has the answer to that question evolution does not.
6. im not an eye expert but i know that they dont have a shred of evidence that thats what happened to the eye.
5. just because a fossil or a new specie is discovered doesnt mean it supports evolution.
this is all i have for now. i was working on it but i had to leave and when i tried watching it again it had to load from the beginning and i have dial up which means itll take a while before i can watch all of it again.
I use to think that god left us because man has broken many promises to god but we had a choice to breakem or not freewill is whst he gave us angels dont have it now hes watching to see if we will bring our own demise at least that is what i used to think were just smart apes with a nack for destruction
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