| 12 Aug 2007 04:00 pm |
King of MVC Rep: 24  Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 8,475 OFFLINE |
 bAyBeE_ChRoNiC wrote:
derdev789 wrote:
bAyBeE_ChRoNiC wrote:
derdev789 wrote:
bAyBeE_ChRoNiC wrote:
The Phenom wrote:
what was it about?????????
The government is royally FUCKING us up the ass and its all true.
Everyones always talking shit like “oh those conspiracy people thinking the government is out to get us”
The government IS out to get us.
9/11 was a lie.
The war in Iraq is a lie.
World War 1 and 2 are lies.
Vietnam is a lie.
Pearl Harbour is a fucking lie.
Its all in this video http://zeitgeistmovie.com/ all the proof is there and it makes soooo much sense its scary how much sense it makes.
The new passports are equipped with micro chips containing ALL your personal information and used to track everything you do.
But thats only a small portion of the REAL plan.
bAyBeE_ChRoNiC wrote:
fuckyfuckerfuckingmcfuckfuck69 wrote:
Baybe, conspiracy people act as if everyone around them is either evil on a demonic level, or sheep. They act as if everyone else is blind, and that they and their friends are a brave force of freedom fighters. I guarantee those dudes are on some level holocaust deniers. Conspiracy buffs need something to rebel against for attention.
They menchin the holocaust in the video. Hitler used the same tactics to convince entire nations that the Jews needed to be exterminated.
Didn’t you learn anything in history?
Hitler himself wrote a book on exterminating the Jews while he served time in prison, and everyone blindly went about it like he was right.
That part isn’t even from the video, thats shit I remember from school.
If World War II didn’t happen, there weren’t nazi consentration camps, there was no Hitler and everything you said in your second statement is nothingness.
There would be no Holocaust to mention, because if what you say is correct we didn’t fight WWII, and even if a holocaust had happened, it would still be happening now, and the world would be none the wiser.
I didnt say it never happend. I meant it was a scam. The U.S government funded both sides of it.
Correct, we provided resources to Nazi germany until German U-Boats began attacking and sinking our ships off the coast of Brittain, once the German’s attacked us we stoped all supplies sent to Germany. It’s in every history book, you just have to crack the cover, how are they lieing about that?
The sunken ship off of Britain ? The Lucianiga or something like that ? Yes I remember my history class, finished with a 92% average might I add.
Anyways, you have to watch the video for me to explain, but the bombed ship of the coast of Britain was planned out. The video explains.
I’ll watch the video eventually, but can you give me a brief summary of how the bombed ships were planned? I know that a lot of people in these conspiracy theories promote that they are somehow “in the know” I’d like to know what angle this group is using, where do they get there information. And please don’t use the “evidence is all around us” crook.
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| 12 Aug 2007 04:00 pm |
*Mudafucken.Stunna* <3 Rep: 24 Joined: 27 Dec 2006 Posts: 9,698 OFFLINE | derdev789 wrote:
bAyBeE_ChRoNiC wrote:
derdev789 wrote:
fuckyfuckerfuckingmcfuckfuck69 wrote:
derdev789 wrote:
fuckyfuckerfuckingmcfuckfuck69 wrote:
derdev789 wrote:
Oh had to add a little bit in there about the holocaust.
what?
I edited my ownage to add something about the holocaust.
Ahh. See, most people like that are also holocaust deniers. Thats what I was telling baybe.
I’m kinda curious about watching this video now. I wana see what else I can prove wrong or what things counter other points that they make.
You didn’t prove fuck all wrong ?
You actually proved me right because I knew everyone would just call me a conspiracy freak.
Im someone who has to see something to believe it. When the video started about the whole religion thing, I wasnt paying much attention. |
Then the 9/11 thing came on and I was about to stop it but for some reason just kept watching as they brought fourth more and more evidence thats right in front of our fucking eyes and we’re too blind to see it.
Anyways, its definitley worth watching.
Oh okay man, I’m sorry for the fact that a however the hell long video is full of more fact than hundreds of years of history, most of which was lived out by our parents and grandparents. You seriously can believe whatever you want, that doesn’t make you RIGHT, but you can believe it if you want. I’ve seen enough of these video’s to get the gyst of it. Hello I’m in college, conspiracy is part of my daily life, from “The government is trying to kill all the animals on the planet” to “your soup is 90% human”, I’ve heard it all.
Its not like I believe EVERYTHING thats in it, but there are definite possibilities, we have no idea what teh F.B.I and the C.I.A are capable of, because we’re not supposed to know. Anything thats ever let out of the bag is quickly captured and put back in files by them to prevent “public hysteria”.
But just open your mind as you watch.
There are historians in the video backing up different parts. So dont tell me history proves it wrong because historians are in the video.
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| 12 Aug 2007 04:02 pm |
King of MVC Rep: 24Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 8,475 OFFLINE | mordecai wrote:
derdev789 wrote:
mordecai wrote:
derdev789 wrote:
mordecai wrote:
they aren’t saying things didn’t happen... they are saying there might be more that is going on that the government does not want to tell us. i mean, some of the things on the video is a bit ridiculous... like i don’t think the government actually is trying to make children stupid. but there are some things that the government does not tell the people so that they can do as they please without objection.
And if the government told us EVERYTHING? That would be a bit overwelming. Who the hell needs to know absolutely everything? If they told us there every motive and every plan it would take people who disliked our country about 10 seconds, to turn on the news and figure out exactly what we were planning. There’s a reason it’s illegal for the media to report on troop’s possitions, something things are better left unsaid.
no they don’t have to tell us where our troops are or every single thing... but they could answer some questions. even though there was video of the pentagon plane crash, why was all of it taken away and never shown? why was it denied to be shown? why couldn’t they tell us why it can’t be shown?
Because the guys who made this video are good at photoshop, do you seriously believe everything you see in this the age of technology? Have you even questioned maybe what they said is a fabrication to try to make the government look bad? I’m not going to continue this because your obviously not smart enough to see through the BS they are feeding you on this video, but I want you to know that your being a fool.
why am i always the one fed BS? no, i don’t blindly trust whatever they said in the video. i have my doubts on some of the things they said. but they do bring up some points that i am curious about and it is kind of weird how the goverment responds to it. but don’t you ever think that the government is feeding BS?
oh of course not, the US government is pure! they would never feed BS! not like in WWI when the government fed information to the people, through the media, to push them to want of war. same thing for vietnam. very fishy information was supplied to congress/the people which spurred the people to war.
no, i didn’t learn this in the video. i learned it in AP US history- a college course. you’re a college student, right? so you can’t exactly condescend on me there.
instead of acting like you know everything, why don’t you stop calling people stupid and ignorant? it is what i believe. i didn’t say you had to believe it. i was arguing my point. but then you called it BS and a fool and wrote me off as an idiot. getting off your fucking high horse.
Okay good, I thought you were just eating up everything that they said, but apparently you are at least a little discerning. And yes you are right about history being changed somewhat by the government. There is a saying among historians that “History is written by the winners” But that is why we have historians, to pick through the lies and the conspiracies for the truth behind them.
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| 12 Aug 2007 04:05 pm |
King of MVC Rep: 24Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 8,475 OFFLINE | I think before I keep debating this I should watch the video, and I have work to go to so maybe I will later tonight.
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| 12 Aug 2007 04:08 pm |
*Mudafucken.Stunna* <3 Rep: 24Joined: 27 Dec 2006 Posts: 9,698 OFFLINE | derdev789 wrote:
bAyBeE_ChRoNiC wrote:
derdev789 wrote:
bAyBeE_ChRoNiC wrote:
derdev789 wrote:
bAyBeE_ChRoNiC wrote:
The Phenom wrote:
what was it about?????????
The government is royally FUCKING us up the ass and its all true.
Everyones always talking shit like “oh those conspiracy people thinking the government is out to get us”
The government IS out to get us.
9/11 was a lie.
The war in Iraq is a lie.
World War 1 and 2 are lies.
Vietnam is a lie.
Pearl Harbour is a fucking lie.
Its all in this video http://zeitgeistmovie.com/ all the proof is there and it makes soooo much sense its scary how much sense it makes.
The new passports are equipped with micro chips containing ALL your personal information and used to track everything you do.
But thats only a small portion of the REAL plan.
bAyBeE_ChRoNiC wrote:
fuckyfuckerfuckingmcfuckfuck69 wrote:
Baybe, conspiracy people act as if everyone around them is either evil on a demonic level, or sheep. They act as if everyone else is blind, and that they and their friends are a brave force of freedom fighters. I guarantee those dudes are on some level holocaust deniers. Conspiracy buffs need something to rebel against for attention.
They menchin the holocaust in the video. Hitler used the same tactics to convince entire nations that the Jews needed to be exterminated.
Didn’t you learn anything in history?
Hitler himself wrote a book on exterminating the Jews while he served time in prison, and everyone blindly went about it like he was right.
That part isn’t even from the video, thats shit I remember from school.
If World War II didn’t happen, there weren’t nazi consentration camps, there was no Hitler and everything you said in your second statement is nothingness.
There would be no Holocaust to mention, because if what you say is correct we didn’t fight WWII, and even if a holocaust had happened, it would still be happening now, and the world would be none the wiser.
I didnt say it never happend. I meant it was a scam. The U.S government funded both sides of it.
Correct, we provided resources to Nazi germany until German U-Boats began attacking and sinking our ships off the coast of Brittain, once the German’s attacked us we stoped all supplies sent to Germany. It’s in every history book, you just have to crack the cover, how are they lieing about that?
The sunken ship off of Britain ? The Lucianiga or something like that ? Yes I remember my history class, finished with a 92% average might I add.
Anyways, you have to watch the video for me to explain, but the bombed ship of the coast of Britain was planned out. The video explains.
I’ll watch the video eventually, but can you give me a brief summary of how the bombed ships were planned? I know that a lot of people in these conspiracy theories promote that they are somehow “in the know” I’d like to know what angle this group is using, where do they get there information. And please don’t use the “evidence is all around us” crook.
Alright. Its kind of a long story. I might miss something because its not like I remember every detail, but I’ll try my best.
The reason for the american revolution was due to retarded debts they owed to Britain. Why did they owe so much? A place called a Central Bank. There were other reasons dont get it twisted, but Benjamin Franklin documented himself that this was probably the prime reason for the revolution.
I don’t know if you are farmiliar with the functions of a Central Bank, but I’ll explain anyway.
Basically, they control currencies and they supplied money to the nations, but they LENT it to the government with intrest on every dollar. So on top of the money they borrowed, they also owed intrest on every dollar so they had to borrow higher amounts and the cycle kept repeating itself until the Americans got tired of it and thus, becoming an independant country.
Despite the fact that the whole reason of the separation from Great Britain was because of the Central Bank, The United States got their own Central Bank, of which powerfull people such as the Rockafellas and others gained for themselves.
The Central Bank makes the most money when a country is at war. I do not remember all the details that go with this, but there were strong reasons.
And to this day, Americans pay taxes, when it is unconstitutional and there is NOTHING in American law stating you have to pay taxes. Your tax money goes to the Central Bank to help pay off the debts the government has because of the high intrest rates. The Central Bank makes its own policies.
When Word War 2 happend, the government were just waiting for a reason to jump in. A documented conversation between two people of whealth and power (I forget names), ended up with a German guy suggesting that the people would want to fight for their country if a German bomber “accidentally” hit an American ship, killing american people.
And so, that was the plan. There is even a news paper article that warned the people planning to board the ship that they did so at their own risk.
Anyways, the video has far more detail, but thats what I remember.
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| 12 Aug 2007 04:13 pm |
James R. LeClair NLI Guest | Grandma is get’n it oooooonnnnnnn!!!!!!
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| 12 Aug 2007 04:16 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 21 Joined: 18 Apr 2007 Posts: 4,096 OFFLINE | lol
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| 12 Aug 2007 04:18 pm |
James R. LeClair NLI Guest | Haha
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| 12 Aug 2007 04:55 pm |
Dr. Matt Rep: 46 Joined: 07 Jul 2006 Posts: 14,449 OFFLINE | Haha, Derdev I was just as skeptical as you when it came to the 9/11 conspiracy theory. I thought it was just a bunch of bullshit until I watched the video. They give strong evidence to support it that would be pretty damn hard to refute.
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the21gamer wrote:
fuck that load of bullshit. i dont care if the enemy dies. not fighting back is stupid
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| 12 Aug 2007 04:56 pm |
King of MVC Rep: 24Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 8,475 OFFLINE | Hey guys I’m back, still have about 50 minutes before work. How long is this video per-say?
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| 12 Aug 2007 04:56 pm |
Dr. Matt Rep: 46Joined: 07 Jul 2006 Posts: 14,449 OFFLINE | Two hours. But I think the 9/11 part is only about 40 minutes or so.
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the21gamer wrote:
fuck that load of bullshit. i dont care if the enemy dies. not fighting back is stupid
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| 12 Aug 2007 04:58 pm |
King of MVC Rep: 24Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 8,475 OFFLINE | Holy shit, that’s as long as a Michael Moore Documentary!
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| 12 Aug 2007 04:59 pm |
Dr. Matt Rep: 46Joined: 07 Jul 2006 Posts: 14,449 OFFLINE | Yeah, you might want to wait until tomorrow to watch the whole thing.
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the21gamer wrote:
fuck that load of bullshit. i dont care if the enemy dies. not fighting back is stupid
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| 12 Aug 2007 05:02 pm |
King of MVC Rep: 24Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 8,475 OFFLINE | ramunematt wrote:
Yeah, you might want to wait until tomorrow to watch the whole thing.
Yeah, probably. Gah I hope it isn’t full of bull shit like Michael Moore movies...
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| 12 Aug 2007 05:06 pm |
Wannabe Rep: 0  Joined: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 33 OFFLINE | It’s all bullshit conspiracy
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| 12 Aug 2007 05:06 pm |
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| 12 Aug 2007 05:11 pm |
King of MVC Rep: 24Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 8,475 OFFLINE | Please stop guys.
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| 12 Aug 2007 05:13 pm |
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| 12 Aug 2007 05:18 pm |
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