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15 Aug 2007 01:24 am
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15 Aug 2007 01:39 am
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... well thanks for the answers.

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[Quote] #104
15 Aug 2007 09:31 am
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derdev789 wrote:
bahahaha-its me wrote:
pluto wrote: God well forgive all but yet you well burn in hell forever for committing adultery errrr wot dat shit all about den


thas not contradiction. god forgives u if u repent. hell fire does not exist. its a mbol for everlasting destruction. meaning there wont be a resurrection.

i can name one contradiction. where god says he can do anything and where he says he cant lie.

theres more in skeptics annonated bible or whatever website. type it in google.
God didn’t say he couldn’t lie, and he didn’t say he couldn’t sin. That is just a common miss-conception of the bible, why don’t you do research before believing everything your told?


In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;
— titus 1:2

why dont u actually find out if someone hasnt done research before accusing him of not doing so?

and i dint say god couldnt sin. whyd u even bring that up when i dint say anything about it. i jus brought up lie.

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15 Aug 2007 09:43 am
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so..... five pages. only one contradiction?

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15 Aug 2007 09:44 am
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err... six.

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15 Aug 2007 09:49 am
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...six PAGES, ONE contradiction. i mean. i need to log in more.

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15 Aug 2007 10:41 am
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How many men did the chief of David’s captains kill?

2 Samuel 23:6
The ... chief among the captains ... he lift up his spear against eight hundred, whom he slew at one time.



1 Chronicles 11:11
the chief of the captains: he lifted up his spear against three hundred slain by him at one time.


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How many sons did Abraham have? Abraham had only one son.

Hebrews 11:17
By faith Abraham when he was tried, offered up Isaac, ... his only begotten son.

Genesis 22:2
Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, ... and offer him there for a burnt offering.



Genesis 16:15
And Hagar bare Abraham a son: and Abram called his son’s name, which Hagar bare, Ishmael.

Genesis 21:2-3
For Sarah conceived, and bare Abraham a son in his old age .... And Abraham called him Isaac.

Err More than 1?

Genesis 25:1-2
Then again Abraham took a wife, and her name was Keturah. And she bare him Zimran(1), and Jokshan(2), and Medan(3), and Midian(4), and Ishbak(5), and Shuah(6).

Galatians 4:22
Abraham had two sons; the one by a bond-woman, and the other by a free woman.

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The two contradictory creation accounts. First Account (Genesis 1:1-2:3) Second Account (Genesis 2:4-25)

Genesis 1:25-27
(Humans were created after the other animals.)

And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. And God said, Let us make man in our image.... So God created man in his own image.



Genesis 2:18-19
(Humans were created before the other animals.)

And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

Genesis 1:27
(The first man and woman were created simultaneously.)

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.



Genesis 2:18-22
(The man was created first, then the animals, then the woman from the man’s rib.)

And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them.... And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.


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Who Was Achan’s father? Achan’s father was Carmi.

Joshua 7:1
For Achan, the son of Carmi, the son of Zabdi, the son of Zerah, of the tribe of Judah, took of the accursed thing.

No wait... Achan’s father is Zerah

Joshua 7:24
And Joshua, and all Israel with him, took Achan the son of Zerah....

Joshua 22:20
Did not Achan the son of Zerah commit a trespass in the accursed thing, and wrath fell on all the congregation of Israel?

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How should adulterers be punished?

They should be executed.

Leviticus 20:10
And the man that committeth adultery with another man’s wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

No wait They should not be punished.

John 8:3-8
And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou? This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

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God wants everyone to go to heaven.

1 Timothy 2:3-4
God our Saviour; who will have all men to be saved.

2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is ... not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.


but God wants some to go to hell.

Proverbs 16:4
The Lord hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.

John 12:40
He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

Romans 9:18
Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.

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Jesus told his disciples everything.

John 15:15
For all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.

But there were some things that Jesus didn’t tell them.

John 16:12
I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.

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Was David alone when asking for the holy bread at Nob? He was alone.

1 Samuel 21:1
Then came David to Nob to Ahimelech the priest: and Ahimelech was afraid at the meeting of David, and said unto him, Why art thou alone, and no man with thee?

But actually He was with others.

Matthew12:3-4
But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when he was an hungred, and they that were with him; How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the shewbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were with him, but only for the priests?

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Who was Anah?

The daughter of Zibeon
“Anah the daughter of Zibeon” — Genesis 36:2, 14

The brother of Zibeon
“These are the sons of Seir the Horite, who inhabited the land; Lotan, and Shobal, and Zibeon, and Anah." — Genesis 36:20

“The sons of Seir ... Zibeon and Anah” — 1 Chronicles 1:38

The son of Zibeon
“And these are the children of Zibeon; both Ajah, and Anah: this was that Anah that found the mules in the wilderness, as he fed the asses of Zibeon his father." — Genesis 36:24

“The sons of Zibeon; Aiah, and Anah." — 1 Chronicles 1:40

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How long does God’s anger last? God’s anger lasts for just a moment.

Psalm 30:5
For his anger endureth but a moment.

Jeremiah 3:12
I am merciful, saith the Lord, and I will not keep anger for ever.

Micah 7:18
He retaineth not his anger forever, because he delighteth in mercy.

except when God’s anger lasts a long time


Numbers 32:13
And the Lord’s anger was kindled against Israel, and he made them wander in the wilderness for forty years.

Jeremiah 17:4
Ye have kindled a fire in mine anger, which shall burn for ever.

Malachi 1:4
The people against whom the LORD hath indignation for ever.

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What were the names of the apostles?

Matthew 10:2-4
Simon (Peter)
Andrew
James (son of Zebedee)
John
Philip
Bartholomew
Thomas
Matthew
James (son of Alphaeus)
Lebbaeus (surname Thaddeus)
Simon the Canaanite
Judas Iscariot

oh wait

Mark 3:16-19
Simon (Peter)
James (son of Zebedee)
John
Andrew
Philip
Bartholomew
Matthew
Thomas
James (son of Alphaeus)
Thaddeus
Simon the Canaanite
Judas Iscariot

ok settled right?

no wait

Luke 6:14-16

Simon (Peter)
Andrew
James
John
Philip
Bartholomew
Matthew
Thomas
James (son of Alphaeus)
Simon (Zeolotes)
Judas (brother of James)
Judas (Iscariot)

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Where did Jesus first appear to the eleven disciples after the resurrection?

On a mountain top in Galilee.

Matthew 28:16
Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them. And when they saw him.


but In a room in Jerusalem.

Mark 16:14
Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen.

Luke 24:33-37
And they rose up the same hour, and returned to Jerusalem, and found the eleven gathered together, and them that were with them, Saying, The Lord is risen indeed, and hath appeared to Simon. And they told what things were done in the way, and how he was known of them in breaking of bread. And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.

John 20:19
Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.

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that’s just a small handful

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James R. LeClair wrote: How many men did the chief of David’s captains kill?

2 Samuel 23:6
The ... chief among the captains ... he lift up his spear against eight hundred, whom he slew at one time.

1 Chronicles 11:11
the chief of the captains: he lifted up his spear against three hundred slain by him at one time.


yup, i saw this at skepticsannonated bible site. i havent asked anyone in the congregation i used to go to about this.

James R. LeClair wrote: How many sons did Abraham have? Abraham had only one son.

Hebrews 11:17
By faith Abraham when he was tried, offered up Isaac, ... his only begotten son.

Genesis 22:2
Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, ... and offer him there for a burnt offering.



Genesis 16:15
And Hagar bare Abraham a son: and Abram called his son’s name, which Hagar bare, Ishmael.

Genesis 21:2-3
For Sarah conceived, and bare Abraham a son in his old age .... And Abraham called him Isaac.

Err More than 1?

Genesis 25:1-2
Then again Abraham took a wife, and her name was Keturah. And she bare him Zimran(1), and Jokshan(2), and Medan(3), and Midian(4), and Ishbak(5), and Shuah(6).

Galatians 4:22
Abraham had two sons; the one by a bond-woman, and the other by a free woman.


my explaination. abraham was asked to offer isaac when he was the only son. afterwards he had more.
but u might reason why was isaac the only son in gen. 22 but not in gen. 16.
weel, the bible is not written chronologicly(well fully).

for example, in gen. 1 it says God made male and female. but in gen. 2, adam was alone first, then God created eve.



James R. LeClair wrote: The two contradictory creation accounts. First Account (Genesis 1:1-2:3) Second Account (Genesis 2:4-25)

Genesis 1:25-27
(Humans were created after the other animals.)

And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. And God said, Let us make man in our image.... So God created man in his own image.



Genesis 2:18-19
(Humans were created before the other animals.)

And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

Genesis 1:27
(The first man and woman were created simultaneously.)

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.



Genesis 2:18-22
(The man was created first, then the animals, then the woman from the man’s rib.)

And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them.... And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.


in my bible version, the word used was forming instead of formed. i guess it all depends on the literal hebrew word.

again, every new chapter, is a new story. chapter 2 goes into more detail.

“This [is] the book of the generations of Adam”
gen. 5:1

James R. LeClair wrote: Who Was Achan’s father? Achan’s father was Carmi.

Joshua 7:1
For Achan, the son of Carmi, the son of Zabdi, the son of Zerah, of the tribe of Judah, took of the accursed thing.

No wait... Achan’s father is Zerah

Joshua 7:24
And Joshua, and all Israel with him, took Achan the son of Zerah....

Joshua 22:20
Did not Achan the son of Zerah commit a trespass in the accursed thing, and wrath fell on all the congregation of Israel?


yup could be a contradiction. or there might be an explaination. but i dont know.


James R. LeClair wrote: How should adulterers be punished?

They should be executed.

Leviticus 20:10
And the man that committeth adultery with another man’s wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

No wait They should not be punished.

John 8:3-8
And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou? This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.


ah, yes. that is not a contrdiction at all. when jesus came, he brought change. many changes. like u dont need to get circumcised, or offer burnt scrifices.


James R. LeClair wrote: God wants everyone to go to heaven.

1 Timothy 2:3-4
God our Saviour; who will have all men to be saved.

2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is ... not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.


but God wants some to go to hell.

Proverbs 16:4
The Lord hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.

John 12:40
He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

Romans 9:18
Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.


possible contradiction. i need more info on this.

James R. LeClair wrote: Jesus told his disciples everything.

John 15:15
For all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.

But there were some things that Jesus didn’t tell them.

John 16:12
I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.


i dont see a contradiction, really. he told them everythin he heard from his father. he cant tell them somthings, but we dont know if he heard those things from his father.

James R. LeClair wrote: Was David alone when asking for the holy bread at Nob? He was alone.

1 Samuel 21:1
Then came David to Nob to Ahimelech the priest: and Ahimelech was afraid at the meeting of David, and said unto him, Why art thou alone, and no man with thee?

But actually He was with others.

Matthew12:3-4
But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when he was an hungred, and they that were with him; How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the shewbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were with him, but only for the priests?


possible contradiction.

James R. LeClair wrote: Who was Anah?

The daughter of Zibeon
“Anah the daughter of Zibeon” — Genesis 36:2, 14

The brother of Zibeon
“These are the sons of Seir the Horite, who inhabited the land; Lotan, and Shobal, and Zibeon, and Anah." — Genesis 36:20

“The sons of Seir ... Zibeon and Anah” — 1 Chronicles 1:38

The son of Zibeon
“And these are the children of Zibeon; both Ajah, and Anah: this was that Anah that found the mules in the wilderness, as he fed the asses of Zibeon his father." — Genesis 36:24

“The sons of Zibeon; Aiah, and Anah." — 1 Chronicles 1:40


could be a contradiction. but its possible for your son and brother to have the same name.


James R. LeClair wrote: How long does God’s anger last? God’s anger lasts for just a moment.

Psalm 30:5
For his anger endureth but a moment.

Jeremiah 3:12
I am merciful, saith the Lord, and I will not keep anger for ever.

Micah 7:18
He retaineth not his anger forever, because he delighteth in mercy.

except when God’s anger lasts a long time


Numbers 32:13
And the Lord’s anger was kindled against Israel, and he made them wander in the wilderness for forty years.

Jeremiah 17:4
Ye have kindled a fire in mine anger, which shall burn for ever.

Malachi 1:4
The people against whom the LORD hath indignation for ever.


possible contradiction. possible explaination.


James R. LeClair wrote: What were the names of the apostles?

Matthew 10:2-4
Simon (Peter)
Andrew
James (son of Zebedee)
John
Philip
Bartholomew
Thomas
Matthew
James (son of Alphaeus)
Lebbaeus (surname Thaddeus)
Simon the Canaanite
Judas Iscariot

oh wait

Mark 3:16-19
Simon (Peter)
James (son of Zebedee)
John
Andrew
Philip
Bartholomew
Matthew
Thomas
James (son of Alphaeus)
Thaddeus
Simon the Canaanite
Judas Iscariot

ok settled right?

no wait

Luke 6:14-16

Simon (Peter)
Andrew
James
John
Philip
Bartholomew
Matthew
Thomas
James (son of Alphaeus)
Simon (Zeolotes)
Judas (brother of James)
Judas (Iscariot)


sounds interesting.

James R. LeClair wrote: Where did Jesus first appear to the eleven disciples after the resurrection?

On a mountain top in Galilee.

Matthew 28:16
Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them. And when they saw him.


but In a room in Jerusalem.

Mark 16:14
Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen.

Luke 24:33-37
And they rose up the same hour, and returned to Jerusalem, and found the eleven gathered together, and them that were with them, Saying, The Lord is risen indeed, and hath appeared to Simon. And they told what things were done in the way, and how he was known of them in breaking of bread. And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.

John 20:19
Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.


interesting.

James R. LeClair wrote: that’s just a small handful

sounds like u got it at skepticsannotatedbible.com.
people should do research before believing in them. many things on that site they jus put what sounds funny.

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15 Aug 2007 12:07 pm
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what really disturbs me is psalms 137: 9.

i havent found a clear explaination for it.

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whats that?

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POW wrote: finally.

sounds like u got it at skepticsannotatedbible.com.
people should do research before believing in them. many things on that site they jus put what sounds funny.



I did grab them off SAB, but I verified them all with my bible {And added in the commentary}

there are sleight differences in wording {which is the main difference between All bibles} such as “Matthew 28:16
Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them." is worded had arranged for in my copy, many of the quotes are similar, but none are reworded in such a way to imply a false meaning.

That is just the mindset of religious devotees when they see the word “skeptic”. “Oh they must have changed the words to prove things contradict but we know better, I’m not going to even bother with that”

Although you are right in several cases above. Biblical names were common, much like they are today. and your fathers name was your last. But several of the quoted passages are in reference to the same event {and person} yet the story changes.. and not even a few times

You can believe, and have faith, without holding a book in your hand. Especially one used to enslave a world by convincing people that if you don’t Believe in it, you’re going to burn

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Weasel 16 wrote:
bahahaha-its me wrote: what really disturbs me is psalms 137: 9.

i havent found a clear explaination for it.

whats that?



Psalms 137:9 Happy will he be that grabs ahold an does dash to pieces, your children against the crag

but to understand it, you need to read all of 137 {I’ll just type the needed passages}

137:1 By the Rivers of Babylon-there we sat down. We also wept when we remembered Zion.

:3 For there those holding us captive asked us for the words of a song. {they’re prisoners}

:6 let my tongue stick to my palate {keep me from telling them what I think}

:8 O daughter of Babylon, who are to be despoiled. Happy will he be that rewards you with your own treatment, with which you used against us {you’ll get what you gave us}

:9 Happy will he be that grabs ahold and does dash to pieces, your children against the crag

The entire psalm is more a “You’re gonna get yours, and your sons and their sons will pay the price, and God will reward someone to do to you, as you have done to us”

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GOOOGLE_QUEEN wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
bAyBeE_ChRoNiC wrote:
ramunematt wrote: One thing that a lot of Christians seem to ignore that I don’t understand. Killing is a sin, right?Well then why does God kill? Isn’t he sinning?



Hes not killing anyone, we kill eachother.

The devil kills. God allows him to do so to teach people a lesson.


According to the Bible god kills.

God kills everyone (men, women, children, infants, newborns) in Sodom and Gomorrah by raining “fire and brimstone from the Lord out of heaven." Well, almost everyone — he spares the “just and righteous” Lot and his family


The people of Soddom and Gomorrah had brought that upon themselves , the outcry that had against God’s people was so great that he had to destroy it . The people of Soddom and Gommorah used sexual violence against men and women brutally .
You can enjoy God but you also have to <b>fear</b> him . The soddomites mocked him and his people , they had already passed the point . I’m sure it didn’t please God to sit there and kill this city of people , but I believe that it came to a point where they could’ve sucked other people in and ruined their lives (by raping, etc) just has they had tried to do to the angels that had came down that Lot had gave hospitality to . I am sure God was displeased , but when you play with fire you are going to get burnt .


So that settles it. God is the ultimate terrorist.

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ramunematt wrote:
GOOOGLE_QUEEN wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
bAyBeE_ChRoNiC wrote:
ramunematt wrote: One thing that a lot of Christians seem to ignore that I don’t understand. Killing is a sin, right?Well then why does God kill? Isn’t he sinning?



Hes not killing anyone, we kill eachother.

The devil kills. God allows him to do so to teach people a lesson.


According to the Bible god kills.

God kills everyone (men, women, children, infants, newborns) in Sodom and Gomorrah by raining “fire and brimstone from the Lord out of heaven." Well, almost everyone — he spares the “just and righteous” Lot and his family


The people of Soddom and Gomorrah had brought that upon themselves , the outcry that had against God’s people was so great that he had to destroy it . The people of Soddom and Gommorah used sexual violence against men and women brutally .
You can enjoy God but you also have to <b>fear</b> him . The soddomites mocked him and his people , they had already passed the point . I’m sure it didn’t please God to sit there and kill this city of people , but I believe that it came to a point where they could’ve sucked other people in and ruined their lives (by raping, etc) just has they had tried to do to the angels that had came down that Lot had gave hospitality to . I am sure God was displeased , but when you play with fire you are going to get burnt .


So that settles it. God is the ultimate terrorist.


well like it showed in ZeitGeist, {which I have been telling people long before that movie came out} the bible is a book of events, and the time in which they happened is the stardate.

using greek mythology for example {and off the top of my head, so the info is rhetorical for descriptive purposes ie I may get the facts scrambled, but it’s just to explain}

the story of Hercules cleaning the Augean stables {where thousands of cattle were kept in greek times} said that he diverted 2 rivers and washed it clean. What actually happened was when the constellation of Hercules was in the 10th house{or 2nd, I’ve yet to figure it out yet, but one day} those two rivers flooded the Augean stables.

Hercules had 12 tasks, there are 12 signs in the Zodiac, 12 months.

Taurus is the bull, 5th month may{5th task of 12}. if it had been the 4th task, it would have still been in Taurus, but the end of April.

the use of analogy and stories was a way to keep track of when events happened. By taking the constellation above and stamping it onto a natural event, or making the person{human} directly involved, a divine cross between man and God(s), would ensure we would never forget the lessons learned. Was there a Man Jesus? I used to think no, but yes I think there was, and then the traits and divinity in the heavens {sky} and the astrological sign at the time, were mashed together into the bible stories

that’s just the way it was done, and now people kill each other because they think that their belief is the only truth

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Wow James... I found your theory very interesting .

James wrote: and now people kill each other because they think that their belief is the only truth

this is what I agree with .. then I guess you have to fight for what you believe .. or in some cases , people kill .

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i did ??? Whoopsies .. sorry about that one .

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ramunematt wrote:
GOOOGLE_QUEEN wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
bAyBeE_ChRoNiC wrote:
ramunematt wrote: One thing that a lot of Christians seem to ignore that I don’t understand. Killing is a sin, right?Well then why does God kill? Isn’t he sinning?



Hes not killing anyone, we kill eachother.

The devil kills. God allows him to do so to teach people a lesson.


According to the Bible god kills.

God kills everyone (men, women, children, infants, newborns) in Sodom and Gomorrah by raining “fire and brimstone from the Lord out of heaven." Well, almost everyone — he spares the “just and righteous” Lot and his family


The people of Soddom and Gomorrah had brought that upon themselves , the outcry that had against God’s people was so great that he had to destroy it . The people of Soddom and Gommorah used sexual violence against men and women brutally .
You can enjoy God but you also have to <b>fear</b> him . The soddomites mocked him and his people , they had already passed the point . I’m sure it didn’t please God to sit there and kill this city of people , but I believe that it came to a point where they could’ve sucked other people in and ruined their lives (by raping, etc) just has they had tried to do to the angels that had came down that Lot had gave hospitality to . I am sure God was displeased , but when you play with fire you are going to get burnt .


So that settles it. God is the ultimate terrorist.


No. smiley

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Most of these “contradictions” can be explained.

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GOOOGLE_QUEEN wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
GOOOGLE_QUEEN wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
bAyBeE_ChRoNiC wrote:
ramunematt wrote: One thing that a lot of Christians seem to ignore that I don’t understand. Killing is a sin, right?Well then why does God kill? Isn’t he sinning?



Hes not killing anyone, we kill eachother.

The devil kills. God allows him to do so to teach people a lesson.


According to the Bible god kills.

God kills everyone (men, women, children, infants, newborns) in Sodom and Gomorrah by raining “fire and brimstone from the Lord out of heaven." Well, almost everyone — he spares the “just and righteous” Lot and his family


The people of Soddom and Gomorrah had brought that upon themselves , the outcry that had against God’s people was so great that he had to destroy it . The people of Soddom and Gommorah used sexual violence against men and women brutally .
You can enjoy God but you also have to <b>fear</b> him . The soddomites mocked him and his people , they had already passed the point . I’m sure it didn’t please God to sit there and kill this city of people , but I believe that it came to a point where they could’ve sucked other people in and ruined their lives (by raping, etc) just has they had tried to do to the angels that had came down that Lot had gave hospitality to . I am sure God was displeased , but when you play with fire you are going to get burnt .


So that settles it. God is the ultimate terrorist.


No. smiley


Oh come on. What could be more terroristic than, “believe this or die/burn forever”?

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