| 21 Nov 2007 06:43 am |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 50  Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,520 OFFLINE | 1. Gohan dident have to tranceform Elder Kia told him to do that SSJ thing he always douse and he will awake his hidden power, Gohan dident have to tranceform he had his max in base form witch thus toyed with Super Buu.
2. Goten got angry and turned SSJ while sparring with Chi Chi, Trunks probably saw his farther do it and then did it himself.
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1. Yes indeed but even so when buu saga... that is his limit and he cant enter go beyond SSJ3 or so on...
2. Both of them gain it by their way... Trunks more superior than Goten. And more powerfull than Goten.
If we do the DBGT then Goku and vegeta with pure saiyan are better than hybrid. And of course hybrid have their unique style and how they achieve SSJ. Just like programming...
C is better than C++. And C++ is better than Delphi which Delphi is OOP Hybrid.
 
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Regular Rep: 2 Joined: 03 Nov 2007 Posts: 486 OFFLINE | why dont we just have a gohan vs goku thread??? i mean, 1st lets settle the debate on goku and gohan... what do you guys think??? | | | 21 Nov 2007 12:04 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 6  Joined: 26 Sep 2006 Posts: 2,190 OFFLINE | ssj6kalel wrote:
why dont we just have a gohan vs goku thread??? i mean, 1st lets settle the debate on goku and gohan... what do you guys think???
Yup.
 | | | 21 Nov 2007 02:34 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 18 Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,621 OFFLINE | ULXR wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
ULXR wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
Gohan surpassed his dad at 11 years old learning not only SSJ but SSJ2 the fact that Goku said that Gohan was more powerful than he could ever dream shows that even he realises Gohan is potentialy stronger.
1. Gohan hasn’t lived up to this “potential”
2. Surpass my ass. If he did, HE would have gone SSJ against frieza. But who did? Goku. He weant SSJ after TRAINING. Now for SSJ2. Yes he went that level but Goku says show him the power WE have made together...intersting eh?
1. Id agree Gohan dousent like fighting and dousent train like Goku or Vegeta who love battle, this is the only downside to being a half breed your given incredible power ubove both races but with little desire to use it (never the less Gohan’s full potential is awoke so he did realise it in the end).
But no matter how powerful he got, he NEVER surpassed his dad.
2. ok that’s all to easy Goku trained his ass of getting to namek at 100g Gravity and when he fought Freiza Freiza say’s “i should have just killed him when i first laid eye’s on him, but instead ive let him develop his skill,
Umm actualy VEGETA was the one who pwned Frieza... Krillen and Gohan gor SLAUGHTERED.
Second Goku was nothing without Kaio Ken (a power up) against Freiza witch he used the entire fight to keep on par with him, without that Gohan was easily as strong as Goku he nearly destroys his third form and in the Anime could even be seen tackleing Final Form Freiza (without any form of power up).
The elder Namek RELEASED hella power. Krillen multiplied his power hella, he takes Gohan to get HIS power multplied. No powerup my ass. And yeh, BASE Goku made Frieza resort to Form 4... Vegeta, Gohan AND Krillen couldn’t beat form 3...
In the Hyper Bolic Time Chamber Goku held back Gohan says he dousent have what it takes to train him right, and forces Goku to use SSJ so he can unlock his true power “the power comes in responce to a need not a desire...create that need” these are the words Gohan had placed into his mind when he transformed for the first time if anything Gohan was training Goku in that room Goku even said it wasnt long before Gohan’s skill was just as good as his own, then SSJ2 kicked in.
Umm no. He said he HAD potential, GOKU aught him that philoshiphy and Goku said he’d make an OK sparring partner. The only person Goku doesn’t hold back on is Vegeta. Hmm...I wonder why... And this is at the end of Z too...
1. erm yes he did SSJ2-Mystic Gohan???
2. Vegeta was on par with form 1 Freiza Gohan pwned Form 2-3 he nearly killed Form 3 witch made Freiza crap himself and go to Final Form (he wasnt takeing Chances) Vegeta took central role after nearly dieing then died for real agains Final Form Freiza (witch in the anime can be seen getting wooped pretty bad by Gohan in episode Gohan Return’s, plus when Gohan and Vegeta brawl on earth Vegeta was gonna kill Gohan but Piccolo told him to back off and he douse meaning Piccolo was pretty much the grand daddy at that time.
3. thats potential energy not a power up like stored up power you already had but couldent release the Kaio Ken was a power up incase your own strenth wasnt enough, oh yea Gohan nearly did kill form 3 makeing Freiza go Form 4 not Goku.
4. Gohan and Goku bacame equaly skilled in the time chamber so much so Goku was finding it hard to keep up, Goku even says ok i think thats enough for today Gohan says no its ok i think i can carry on (he then shows sighns of SSJ2) and Goku says “it was at that momment when i saw Gohan tranceform i knew...he would be the one...to beat Cell”.
“It is better to die on your feet like a man, than to live life on your knee’s like a fucking dog" | | | 21 Nov 2007 02:54 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 18Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,621 OFFLINE | Itachi Uchiha wrote:
1. Gohan dident have to tranceform Elder Kia told him to do that SSJ thing he always douse and he will awake his hidden power, Gohan dident have to tranceform he had his max in base form witch thus toyed with Super Buu.
2. Goten got angry and turned SSJ while sparring with Chi Chi, Trunks probably saw his farther do it and then did it himself.
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1. Yes indeed but even so when buu saga... that is his limit and he cant enter go beyond SSJ3 or so on...
2. Both of them gain it by their way... Trunks more superior than Goten. And more powerfull than Goten.
If we do the DBGT then Goku and vegeta with pure saiyan are better than hybrid. And of course hybrid have their unique style and how they achieve SSJ. Just like programming...
C is better than C++. And C++ is better than Delphi which Delphi is OOP Hybrid.
1. why would he need SSJ3 he had senced its power he knew its power and when he went mystic (Goku craped it) he unlocked all his potential meaning he would be stronger than his dad could of imagined 9like Goku stated in the Cell Games) plus being a hybrid Gohan was naturaly superior.
2. Trunks and Goten were about even Trunks cheated to gain his victory in the tornement, but yea Goten and Trunks with ease did what Goku and Vegeta had to train amazeingly hard to attain.
If you remember their training Vegeta was training somewere over 150g gravity with Trunks both in base form Trunks douse 9999 press ups on his index finger Vegeta is amazed, Goten maneged to cause Gohan to flee into the air when they face off in SSJ and Trunks could land a hit on Vegeta dureing sparring (not bad for 6-7yr olds).
3. As much as i hate GT sure lets go there, Trunks and Goten and Gohan hardly train (probably never really)...Vegeta douse,Goku douse (is that waht you call better NO) if Goten Trunks and Gohan train you see they pretty much destroy Goku and Vegeta in terms of power.
(inpressive notes are).
1. Trunks Blasted over Golden Oozru Babi in base form, and maneged to lift his head with an uppercut in SSJ.
2. Goten in base form try’s to blast Vegeta SSJ in the back Vegeta deflects the attack and a momment later a cut appears showing it actually caught him.
3. Vegeta fights Gohan possesed by Babi and is smashed all over the place, and to make it worse Vegeta say’s Gohan’s alot faster than that without Babi inside of him (showing that Gohan would probably beat Vegeta with his own mental state).
4. Babi comments on Gohan’s body saying excellent this body’s destructive power hs no equal finaly i have the power to avenge the Tsuffles
and thats with around 10-20 years no training
“It is better to die on your feet like a man, than to live life on your knee’s like a fucking dog" | | | 21 Nov 2007 02:58 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 18Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,621 OFFLINE | ssj6kalel wrote:
why dont we just have a gohan vs goku thread??? i mean, 1st lets settle the debate on goku and gohan... what do you guys think???
sounds good
“It is better to die on your feet like a man, than to live life on your knee’s like a fucking dog" | | | 22 Nov 2007 05:30 am |
Regular Rep: 2Joined: 03 Nov 2007 Posts: 486 OFFLINE | Kyle Knight wrote:
ssj6kalel wrote:
why dont we just have a gohan vs goku thread??? i mean, 1st lets settle the debate on goku and gohan... what do you guys think???
sounds good
so if you guys agree... then lets talk about gohan and goku 1st.... then ill take the side of goku.... why? bcoz he keeps on improving... keeps on training to bcome stronger.. unlike gohan who became a scholar... | | | 22 Nov 2007 05:42 am |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 50Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,520 OFFLINE | If you remember their training Vegeta was training somewere over 150g gravity with Trunks both in base form Trunks douse 9999 press ups on his index finger Vegeta is amazed, Goten maneged to cause Gohan to flee into the air when they face off in SSJ and Trunks could land a hit on Vegeta dureing sparring (not bad for 6-7yr olds).
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Trunks can fly at that gravity...
not hit but little slice on face...
Yes...
“Great new ideas usually come from very small teams... don’t give up so easily." — John Kaster — | | | 22 Nov 2007 01:32 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 18Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,621 OFFLINE | ssj6kalel wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
ssj6kalel wrote:
why dont we just have a gohan vs goku thread??? i mean, 1st lets settle the debate on goku and gohan... what do you guys think???
sounds good
so if you guys agree... then lets talk about gohan and goku 1st.... then ill take the side of goku.... why? bcoz he keeps on improving... keeps on training to bcome stronger.. unlike gohan who became a scholar...
The thread has been made
“It is better to die on your feet like a man, than to live life on your knee’s like a fucking dog" | | | 22 Nov 2007 01:34 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 18Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,621 OFFLINE | Itachi Uchiha wrote:
If you remember their training Vegeta was training somewere over 150g gravity with Trunks both in base form Trunks douse 9999 press ups on his index finger Vegeta is amazed, Goten maneged to cause Gohan to flee into the air when they face off in SSJ and Trunks could land a hit on Vegeta dureing sparring (not bad for 6-7yr olds).
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Trunks can fly at that gravity...
not hit but little slice on face...
Yes...
1. yep
2. agreed
3. Vegta said if you can land a hit on me you can enter the tornament and ill take you to the park for a whole hour Cut=hit you do the math,(and Vegeta took him to the park).
“It is better to die on your feet like a man, than to live life on your knee’s like a fucking dog" | | | 23 Nov 2007 03:08 am |
ULXR Guest | Kyle Knight wrote:
1. why would he need SSJ3 he had senced its power he knew its power and when he went mystic (Goku craped it) he unlocked all his potential meaning he would be stronger than his dad could of imagined 9like Goku stated in the Cell Games) plus being a hybrid Gohan was naturaly superior.
2. Trunks and Goten were about even Trunks cheated to gain his victory in the tornement, but yea Goten and Trunks with ease did what Goku and Vegeta had to train amazeingly hard to attain.
If you remember their training Vegeta was training somewere over 150g gravity with Trunks both in base form Trunks douse 9999 press ups on his index finger Vegeta is amazed, Goten maneged to cause Gohan to flee into the air when they face off in SSJ and Trunks could land a hit on Vegeta dureing sparring (not bad for 6-7yr olds).
3. As much as i hate GT sure lets go there, Trunks and Goten and Gohan hardly train (probably never really)...Vegeta douse,Goku douse (is that waht you call better NO) if Goten Trunks and Gohan train you see they pretty much destroy Goku and Vegeta in terms of power.
(inpressive notes are).
1. Trunks Blasted over Golden Oozru Babi in base form, and maneged to lift his head with an uppercut in SSJ.
2. Goten in base form try’s to blast Vegeta SSJ in the back Vegeta deflects the attack and a momment later a cut appears showing it actually caught him.
3. Vegeta fights Gohan possesed by Babi and is smashed all over the place, and to make it worse Vegeta say’s Gohan’s alot faster than that without Babi inside of him (showing that Gohan would probably beat Vegeta with his own mental state).
4. Babi comments on Gohan’s body saying excellent this body’s destructive power hs no equal finaly i have the power to avenge the Tsuffles
and thats with around 10-20 years no training
Stop typing bs, I’ve refuted all this shit...in this thread or another... | | | 23 Nov 2007 03:14 am |
ULXR Guest | Kyle Knight wrote:
ULXR wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
ULXR wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
Gohan surpassed his dad at 11 years old learning not only SSJ but SSJ2 the fact that Goku said that Gohan was more powerful than he could ever dream shows that even he realises Gohan is potentialy stronger.
1. Gohan hasn’t lived up to this “potential”
2. Surpass my ass. If he did, HE would have gone SSJ against frieza. But who did? Goku. He weant SSJ after TRAINING. Now for SSJ2. Yes he went that level but Goku says show him the power WE have made together...intersting eh?
1. Id agree Gohan dousent like fighting and dousent train like Goku or Vegeta who love battle, this is the only downside to being a half breed your given incredible power ubove both races but with little desire to use it (never the less Gohan’s full potential is awoke so he did realise it in the end).
But no matter how powerful he got, he NEVER surpassed his dad.
2. ok that’s all to easy Goku trained his ass of getting to namek at 100g Gravity and when he fought Freiza Freiza say’s “i should have just killed him when i first laid eye’s on him, but instead ive let him develop his skill,
Umm actualy VEGETA was the one who pwned Frieza... Krillen and Gohan gor SLAUGHTERED.
Second Goku was nothing without Kaio Ken (a power up) against Freiza witch he used the entire fight to keep on par with him, without that Gohan was easily as strong as Goku he nearly destroys his third form and in the Anime could even be seen tackleing Final Form Freiza (without any form of power up).
The elder Namek RELEASED hella power. Krillen multiplied his power hella, he takes Gohan to get HIS power multplied. No powerup my ass. And yeh, BASE Goku made Frieza resort to Form 4... Vegeta, Gohan AND Krillen couldn’t beat form 3...
In the Hyper Bolic Time Chamber Goku held back Gohan says he dousent have what it takes to train him right, and forces Goku to use SSJ so he can unlock his true power “the power comes in responce to a need not a desire...create that need” these are the words Gohan had placed into his mind when he transformed for the first time if anything Gohan was training Goku in that room Goku even said it wasnt long before Gohan’s skill was just as good as his own, then SSJ2 kicked in.
Umm no. He said he HAD potential, GOKU aught him that philoshiphy and Goku said he’d make an OK sparring partner. The only person Goku doesn’t hold back on is Vegeta. Hmm...I wonder why... And this is at the end of Z too...
1. erm yes he did SSJ2-Mystic Gohan???
Umm no.
2. Vegeta was on par with form 1 Freiza Gohan pwned Form 2-3 he nearly killed Form 3 witch made Freiza crap himself and go to Final Form (he wasnt takeing Chances) Vegeta took central role after nearly dieing then died for real agains Final Form Freiza (witch in the anime can be seen getting wooped pretty bad by Gohan in episode Gohan Return’s, plus when Gohan and Vegeta brawl on earth Vegeta was gonna kill Gohan but Piccolo told him to back off and he douse meaning Piccolo was pretty much the grand daddy at that time.
Yes VEGETA did the central role...And Goku >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Vegeta ffs... Final Form whooped Gohan’s ass so bad it wasn’t even funny. Piccolo wasn’t the grand daddy...He fused with Nails so Vegeta could’t beat BOTH Nails+Piccolo and Gohan at the same time...
3. thats potential energy not a power up like stored up power you already had but couldent release the Kaio Ken was a power up incase your own strenth wasnt enough, oh yea Gohan nearly did kill form 3 makeing Freiza go Form 4 not Goku.
Oh wait base Goku fought off Form 4 without dying, without a powerup by the bigass Namek Elder. Gohan didn’t do shit aginst form 4 and I MEAN shit.
4. Gohan and Goku bacame equaly skilled in the time chamber so much so Goku was finding it hard to keep up, Goku even says ok i think thats enough for today Gohan says no its ok i think i can carry on (he then shows sighns of SSJ2) and Goku says “it was at that momment when i saw Gohan tranceform i knew...he would be the one...to beat Cell”.
Never occured in the manga. try again. | | | 23 Nov 2007 12:34 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 18Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,621 OFFLINE | ULXR wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
1. why would he need SSJ3 he had senced its power he knew its power and when he went mystic (Goku craped it) he unlocked all his potential meaning he would be stronger than his dad could of imagined 9like Goku stated in the Cell Games) plus being a hybrid Gohan was naturaly superior.
2. Trunks and Goten were about even Trunks cheated to gain his victory in the tornement, but yea Goten and Trunks with ease did what Goku and Vegeta had to train amazeingly hard to attain.
If you remember their training Vegeta was training somewere over 150g gravity with Trunks both in base form Trunks douse 9999 press ups on his index finger Vegeta is amazed, Goten maneged to cause Gohan to flee into the air when they face off in SSJ and Trunks could land a hit on Vegeta dureing sparring (not bad for 6-7yr olds).
3. As much as i hate GT sure lets go there, Trunks and Goten and Gohan hardly train (probably never really)...Vegeta douse,Goku douse (is that waht you call better NO) if Goten Trunks and Gohan train you see they pretty much destroy Goku and Vegeta in terms of power.
(inpressive notes are).
1. Trunks Blasted over Golden Oozru Babi in base form, and maneged to lift his head with an uppercut in SSJ.
2. Goten in base form try’s to blast Vegeta SSJ in the back Vegeta deflects the attack and a momment later a cut appears showing it actually caught him.
3. Vegeta fights Gohan possesed by Babi and is smashed all over the place, and to make it worse Vegeta say’s Gohan’s alot faster than that without Babi inside of him (showing that Gohan would probably beat Vegeta with his own mental state).
4. Babi comments on Gohan’s body saying excellent this body’s destructive power hs no equal finaly i have the power to avenge the Tsuffles
and thats with around 10-20 years no training
Stop typing bs, I’ve refuted all this shit...in this thread or another...
Actually we have just started the GT debate so feel free to try and dispute it, without arrows if you can lol
“It is better to die on your feet like a man, than to live life on your knee’s like a fucking dog" | | | 23 Nov 2007 12:55 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 18Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,621 OFFLINE | ULXR wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
ULXR wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
ULXR wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
Gohan surpassed his dad at 11 years old learning not only SSJ but SSJ2 the fact that Goku said that Gohan was more powerful than he could ever dream shows that even he realises Gohan is potentialy stronger.
1. Gohan hasn’t lived up to this “potential”
2. Surpass my ass. If he did, HE would have gone SSJ against frieza. But who did? Goku. He weant SSJ after TRAINING. Now for SSJ2. Yes he went that level but Goku says show him the power WE have made together...intersting eh?
1. Id agree Gohan dousent like fighting and dousent train like Goku or Vegeta who love battle, this is the only downside to being a half breed your given incredible power ubove both races but with little desire to use it (never the less Gohan’s full potential is awoke so he did realise it in the end).
But no matter how powerful he got, he NEVER surpassed his dad.
2. ok that’s all to easy Goku trained his ass of getting to namek at 100g Gravity and when he fought Freiza Freiza say’s “i should have just killed him when i first laid eye’s on him, but instead ive let him develop his skill,
Umm actualy VEGETA was the one who pwned Frieza... Krillen and Gohan gor SLAUGHTERED.
Second Goku was nothing without Kaio Ken (a power up) against Freiza witch he used the entire fight to keep on par with him, without that Gohan was easily as strong as Goku he nearly destroys his third form and in the Anime could even be seen tackleing Final Form Freiza (without any form of power up).
The elder Namek RELEASED hella power. Krillen multiplied his power hella, he takes Gohan to get HIS power multplied. No powerup my ass. And yeh, BASE Goku made Frieza resort to Form 4... Vegeta, Gohan AND Krillen couldn’t beat form 3...
In the Hyper Bolic Time Chamber Goku held back Gohan says he dousent have what it takes to train him right, and forces Goku to use SSJ so he can unlock his true power “the power comes in responce to a need not a desire...create that need” these are the words Gohan had placed into his mind when he transformed for the first time if anything Gohan was training Goku in that room Goku even said it wasnt long before Gohan’s skill was just as good as his own, then SSJ2 kicked in.
Umm no. He said he HAD potential, GOKU aught him that philoshiphy and Goku said he’d make an OK sparring partner. The only person Goku doesn’t hold back on is Vegeta. Hmm...I wonder why... And this is at the end of Z too...
1. erm yes he did SSJ2-Mystic Gohan???
Umm no.
2. Vegeta was on par with form 1 Freiza Gohan pwned Form 2-3 he nearly killed Form 3 witch made Freiza crap himself and go to Final Form (he wasnt takeing Chances) Vegeta took central role after nearly dieing then died for real agains Final Form Freiza (witch in the anime can be seen getting wooped pretty bad by Gohan in episode Gohan Return’s, plus when Gohan and Vegeta brawl on earth Vegeta was gonna kill Gohan but Piccolo told him to back off and he douse meaning Piccolo was pretty much the grand daddy at that time.
Yes VEGETA did the central role...And Goku >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Vegeta ffs... Final Form whooped Gohan’s ass so bad it wasn’t even funny. Piccolo wasn’t the grand daddy...He fused with Nails so Vegeta could’t beat BOTH Nails+Piccolo and Gohan at the same time...
3. thats potential energy not a power up like stored up power you already had but couldent release the Kaio Ken was a power up incase your own strenth wasnt enough, oh yea Gohan nearly did kill form 3 makeing Freiza go Form 4 not Goku.
Oh wait base Goku fought off Form 4 without dying, without a powerup by the bigass Namek Elder. Gohan didn’t do shit aginst form 4 and I MEAN shit.
4. Gohan and Goku bacame equaly skilled in the time chamber so much so Goku was finding it hard to keep up, Goku even says ok i think thats enough for today Gohan says no its ok i think i can carry on (he then shows sighns of SSJ2) and Goku says “it was at that momment when i saw Gohan tranceform i knew...he would be the one...to beat Cell”.
Never occured in the manga. try again.
1. prove it
2. Gohan was down for the count Vegeta didnt want to fight Piccolo simple as he backed of as soon as Piccolo steped in.
3. Goku used Kaio Ken the whole fight with Freiza Form for Freiza used 1 percent against Goku then smashed Goku with 50 percent of his power, Goku then used 20 times Kaio Ken but could still not beat him, Gohan base form actually fought Final form Freiza and hurt him.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6oMlu-oej2M
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XiAkFbUzvE8
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=jqIPEjsdIHE&feature=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=RHJ9Nel-Tjc
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DPPVHXH6o_c&feature=related
4. lol did happen its a flash back after Gohan fires that overly large kamehameha at Cell and returns his own on him, Goku remanises about the time chamber
“It is better to die on your feet like a man, than to live life on your knee’s like a fucking dog" | | | 23 Nov 2007 09:16 pm |
Regular Rep: 2Joined: 03 Nov 2007 Posts: 486 OFFLINE | Kyle Knight wrote:
ULXR wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
1. why would he need SSJ3 he had senced its power he knew its power and when he went mystic (Goku craped it) he unlocked all his potential meaning he would be stronger than his dad could of imagined 9like Goku stated in the Cell Games) plus being a hybrid Gohan was naturaly superior.
2. Trunks and Goten were about even Trunks cheated to gain his victory in the tornement, but yea Goten and Trunks with ease did what Goku and Vegeta had to train amazeingly hard to attain.
If you remember their training Vegeta was training somewere over 150g gravity with Trunks both in base form Trunks douse 9999 press ups on his index finger Vegeta is amazed, Goten maneged to cause Gohan to flee into the air when they face off in SSJ and Trunks could land a hit on Vegeta dureing sparring (not bad for 6-7yr olds).
3. As much as i hate GT sure lets go there, Trunks and Goten and Gohan hardly train (probably never really)...Vegeta douse,Goku douse (is that waht you call better NO) if Goten Trunks and Gohan train you see they pretty much destroy Goku and Vegeta in terms of power.
(inpressive notes are).
1. Trunks Blasted over Golden Oozru Babi in base form, and maneged to lift his head with an uppercut in SSJ.
2. Goten in base form try’s to blast Vegeta SSJ in the back Vegeta deflects the attack and a momment later a cut appears showing it actually caught him.
3. Vegeta fights Gohan possesed by Babi and is smashed all over the place, and to make it worse Vegeta say’s Gohan’s alot faster than that without Babi inside of him (showing that Gohan would probably beat Vegeta with his own mental state).
4. Babi comments on Gohan’s body saying excellent this body’s destructive power hs no equal finaly i have the power to avenge the Tsuffles
and thats with around 10-20 years no training
Stop typing bs, I’ve refuted all this shit...in this thread or another...
Actually we have just started the GT debate so feel free to try and dispute it, without arrows if you can lol
i dont get it... so bebi ivade gohans body to be the the most powerful? i thought he invade gohan and gotens body to inflict wounds on vegeta... that way he can invade vegeta... bebi even said that vegeta was the strongest saiyan on earth... thats why he chose to use vegetas body as his own body... and vegeta only said that gohan doesnt fight like that, he didnt say gohan was stronger/faster... (vegeta said this when he fought bebi in gohans body)... | | | 24 Nov 2007 02:37 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 18Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,621 OFFLINE | Babi wanted to strike back at the saiyans namely King Vegeta so he chose Vegeta as his prime vassel (if he wanted the strongest he would have taken Goku’s body), next Vegeta still trains and was the strongest next to Goku Gohan and Goten however did not train and yet their power wasnt to far from Vegeta’s (if anything due to ageing Vegeta had grown weaker).
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FAedubBBxiA ---
“It is better to die on your feet like a man, than to live life on your knee’s like a fucking dog"Last edited 24 Nov 2007 02:52 pm by Kyle Knight | | | 24 Nov 2007 10:52 pm |
Regular Rep: 2Joined: 03 Nov 2007 Posts: 486 OFFLINE | Kyle Knight wrote:
Babi wanted to strike back at the saiyans namely King Vegeta so he chose Vegeta as his prime vassel (if he wanted the strongest he would have taken Goku’s body), next Vegeta still trains and was the strongest next to Goku Gohan and Goten however did not train and yet their power wasnt to far from Vegeta’s (if anything due to ageing Vegeta had grown weaker).
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FAedubBBxiA
no imean, bebi was searching for the strongest saiyan on earth. that way he can kill goku... bcoz he cant do anything to goku so he needed some major power up.. and when he possessed vegetas body, he was a lot stronger than goku already... remember goku couldt beat him? then he used all of the other saiyans to make himself even more powerful... | | | 26 Nov 2007 01:08 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 18Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,621 OFFLINE | ssj6kalel wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
Babi wanted to strike back at the saiyans namely King Vegeta so he chose Vegeta as his prime vassel (if he wanted the strongest he would have taken Goku’s body), next Vegeta still trains and was the strongest next to Goku Gohan and Goten however did not train and yet their power wasnt to far from Vegeta’s (if anything due to ageing Vegeta had grown weaker).
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FAedubBBxiA
no imean, bebi was searching for the strongest saiyan on earth. that way he can kill goku... bcoz he cant do anything to goku so he needed some major power up.. and when he possessed vegetas body, he was a lot stronger than goku already... remember goku couldt beat him? then he used all of the other saiyans to make himself even more powerful...
Well he couldent poses Trunks because Trunks was more powerful at the time so he worked his way up the food chain, and yes Vegeta was the strongest just not by much.
“It is better to die on your feet like a man, than to live life on your knee’s like a fucking dog" | | | 28 Nov 2007 07:39 pm |
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That warp-kamehameha? He could have ki blasted his ass to oblivion.... Hell even SSJ Vegeta came close to destroying him than SSJ Gohan did. SSJ Gohan stronger than SSJ Goku my ass...
I recall CELL having to use a force field...Goku didn’t do anything of the sort...
Goku wasn’t shitting himself or even scared in the least...
Kyle Knight wrote:
Goku submits too someone who he says can beat Cell...Gohan, plus he clearly states he isnt holding back against Cell (SSJ2 my ass)
How the hell would you know? Let’s show him the power WE have made together.
Umm cause Goku lost hella energy and didn’t eat a senzu like Cell did...Hell he forced Cell to eat a senzu, that’s how much he made HIM waste as well...
Kyle Knight wrote:
And to be fair those Cell Jr’s wooped all the Z Fighters asses Vegeta couldent touch them (one tossed aside his Final Flash and span him around by his leg), my main point was if Goku was seriously holding back (witch he just said he wasntn in that post) he should have easy made short work of a Cell Jr witch are weaker than Cell was.
He was fucking nearly dead!! Are u out of ur goddamn mind???? And he HELD BACK since he knew Gohan could take care of biz, he only stepped in when SPC was about to make short work of Gohan’s ass...
Kyle Knight wrote:
1. why would he need SSJ3 he had senced its power he knew its power and when he went mystic (Goku craped it) he unlocked all his potential meaning he would be stronger than his dad could of imagined 9like Goku stated in the Cell Games) plus being a hybrid Gohan was naturaly superior.
Actually Goku’s name makes Gohan crap himself even THOUGH he is a hybrid...
Kyle Knight wrote:
2. Trunks and Goten were about even Trunks cheated to gain his victory in the tornement, but yea Goten and Trunks with ease did what Goku and Vegeta had to train amazeingly hard to attain.
Their GENETIC code gave them the SSJ ability... And u keep saying Goku had to work to attain SSJ... Umm he TURNED SSJ? Only Vegeta and Gohan had to work for it... Trunks and Goten got free rides so what Gohan did is the only one that is impressive (other than Goku cuz he’s a beast for just turning SSJ and so is Vegeta since he achived that level jut by being pissed that he wasn;t number 1...
[)quote=Kyle Knight] If you remember their training Vegeta was training somewere over 150g gravity with Trunks both in base form Trunks douse 9999 press ups on his index finger Vegeta is amazed, Goten maneged to cause Gohan to flee into the air when they face off in SSJ and Trunks could land a hit on Vegeta dureing sparring (not bad for 6-7yr olds).
No but they had it EASY.
Kyle Knight wrote:
3. As much as i hate GT sure lets go there, Trunks and Goten and Gohan hardly train (probably never really)...Vegeta douse,Goku douse (is that waht you call better NO) if Goten Trunks and Gohan train you see they pretty much destroy Goku and Vegeta in terms of power.
Then again you yourself admit Z Goku and Vegeta >>>>>>>>>>>>> GT Goku and Vegeta other than SSJ4...
Kyle Knight wrote:
1. Trunks Blasted over Golden Oozru Babi in base form, and maneged to lift his head with an uppercut in SSJ.
And? He was freakin mental!
Kyle Knight wrote:
2. Goten in base form try’s to blast Vegeta SSJ in the back Vegeta deflects the attack and a momment later a cut appears showing it actually caught him.
When did that happen? you mean when Bebi had him under control?
Kyle Knight wrote:
3. Vegeta fights Gohan possesed by Babi and is smashed all over the place, and to make it worse Vegeta say’s Gohan’s alot faster than that without Babi inside of him (showing that Gohan would probably beat Vegeta with his own mental state).
Then again Vegeta relying on himself and not being controlled by Bebi would whoop Gohan anyday especially since he’s weaker in GT...
Kyle Knight wrote:
4. Babi comments on Gohan’s body saying excellent this body’s destructive power hs no equal finaly i have the power to avenge the Tsuffles
BEFORE Vegeta’s true power came to be...
Kyle Knight wrote:
and thats with around 10-20 years no training
Mystic...Which he lost I know but he still retained that power in SSJ2...
Kyle Knight wrote:
Actually we have just started the GT debate so feel free to try and dispute it, without arrows if you can lol
Ha ha very funny...
Kyle Knight wrote:
1. prove it
I DID...
Kyle Knight wrote:
2. Gohan was down for the count Vegeta didnt want to fight Piccolo simple as he backed of as soon as Piccolo steped in.
Vegeta gave him a love tap...And Piccolo could’ve piled his ass with help from all of Goku’s friend cuz he DID just attack his son...
Kyle Knight wrote:
3. Goku used Kaio Ken the whole fight with Freiza Form for Freiza used 1 percent against Goku then smashed Goku with 50 percent of his power, Goku then used 20 times Kaio Ken but could still not beat him, Gohan base form actually fought Final form Freiza and hurt him.
Base Goku fought Form 4 Frieza buddy...WITHOUT a powerup that multiplied his power by a lot from that bigass Namek elder...
Kyle Knight wrote:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6oMlu-oej2M
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XiAkFbUzvE8
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=jqIPEjsdIHE&feature=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=RHJ9Nel-Tjc
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DPPVHXH6o_c&feature=related
That’s kinda non-canon...
Kyle Knight wrote:
4. lol did happen its a flash back after Gohan fires that overly large kamehameha at Cell and returns his own on him, Goku remanises about the time chamber
In the anime? Sure. In the manga? Hell no.
Kyle Knight wrote:
Babi wanted to strike back at the saiyans namely King Vegeta so he chose Vegeta as his prime vassel (if he wanted the strongest he would have taken Goku’s body), next Vegeta still trains and was the strongest next to Goku Gohan and Goten however did not train and yet their power wasnt to far from Vegeta’s (if anything due to ageing Vegeta had grown weaker).
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FAedubBBxiA
You admitted Goku and Vegeta were weaker in GT... You said SSJ4 was weak but it took Uub, Gohan, Trunks and Goten ALL their power to revive SSJ4 Goku so he could fight Omega Shenron... SSJ4 outshone even end of Z SSJ3 by hella... And Goku’s too strong to be mind-cnotrolled or even internally... Babadi nearly died trying to convert him...
Kyle Knight wrote:
no imean, bebi was searching for the strongest saiyan on earth. that way he can kill goku... bcoz he cant do anything to goku so he needed some major power up.. and when he possessed vegetas body, he was a lot stronger than goku already... remember goku couldt beat him? then he used all of the other saiyans to make himself even more powerful...
He wanted to make the most powerful Saiyan alive pay. In this case Goku and using Vegeta as the prime vassal was the perfect way since it’s the Saiyan King and he also used the powers of the other Saiyans to destroy him. Think he was aiming for ironic vengeance here ut that’s just me...
Kyle Knight wrote:
Well he couldent poses Trunks because Trunks was more powerful at the time so he worked his way up the food chain, and yes Vegeta was the strongest just not by much.
No...by a LOT. Uub was the strongest other than Goku and vegeta but he wasn’t a match for Vegeta either...
Kyle Knight wrote:
he mean’s provide hard evidence for your cause or mabe some logic that helps to provide backing for your case, rather thn just say who you think would win and use arrows as backing...i think that is what he ment???
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