Itachi Uchiha wrote:
Said who the Qur’an not support math...???
Later I’ll post this but I must translate it first so just wait and see Gplex...
Advance maths please.
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Even evolutionists admit that the chances of the right atoms and molecules falling into place, assuming the universe had existed for a time of 15 billion years, to form just one simple protien molecule would be extremely low. I will not write it down (we cannot use mathermatical shorthand with this forum, sadly) but the number would be a 1, followed by about 113 zeros. That’s a lot bigger than the estimated amount of atoms in the universe.
And that’s only to form ONE protien molecule. A living cell will need about 2000 different protiens to maintain it’s activity! So multiply a 1, followed by 113 zeros 2000 times.
113 x 2000 = 2,226,000
That’s a one followed by about two and a quater million zeros.
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Therefore the chances of life happening to have appeared once in the universe by chance over a span of 15 billion years is a 1 against a number 1 followed by two and a quater million zeros.
And that’s only once. Think about all the times life would have perished along the way and had to start again millions of times over.
That advanced enough for you?
Besides, if life is so widespread in the universe, howcome we haven’t found any aliens yet?
Ah probabilities... These are all bullshit.... any type of maths such as these can be manipulated to what every you want.
Aliens... wtf how far outside our solor system have we got? Again This is a strawman because I didnt even say life is widespread.
That’s a strawman, I didn’t actually say the reason we haven’t found aliens is because life is rare did I? You did not say I said life is rare (although I believe it is) but you implied it. Therefore you cannot call this argument a strawman without forming a strawman yourself.
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Last edited 09 Jan 2008 12:39 am by Sean of the Living
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
Said who the Qur’an not support math...???
Later I’ll post this but I must translate it first so just wait and see Gplex...
Advance maths please.
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Even evolutionists admit that the chances of the right atoms and molecules falling into place, assuming the universe had existed for a time of 15 billion years, to form just one simple protien molecule would be extremely low. I will not write it down (we cannot use mathermatical shorthand with this forum, sadly) but the number would be a 1, followed by about 113 zeros. That’s a lot bigger than the estimated amount of atoms in the universe.
And that’s only to form ONE protien molecule. A living cell will need about 2000 different protiens to maintain it’s activity! So multiply a 1, followed by 113 zeros 2000 times.
113 x 2000 = 2,226,000
That’s a one followed by about two and a quater million zeros.
— — — — — — — — — — — —
Therefore the chances of life happening to have appeared once in the universe by chance over a span of 15 billion years is a 1 against a number 1 followed by two and a quater million zeros.
And that’s only once. Think about all the times life would have perished along the way and had to start again millions of times over.
That advanced enough for you?
Besides, if life is so widespread in the universe, howcome we haven’t found any aliens yet?
Ah probabilities... These are all bullshit.... any type of maths such as these can be manipulated to what every you want.
Aliens... wtf how far outside our solor system have we got? Again This is a strawman because I didnt even say life is widespread.
That’s a strawman, I didn’t actually say the reason we haven’t found aliens is because life is rare did I? You did not say I said life is rare (although I believe it is) but you implied it. Therefore you cannot call this argument a strawman without forming a strawman yourself.
Actually its not. You sugested that life is not wide spread, even though I never calm it was.. Show me the part I implied it.. Your concepts of everything is kind of strange.
--- Theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena.
Advance maths please.
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Take it easy pal...
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According to evolutionists, evolution takes time. If this is true, then howcome you are saying life forms could rapidly adapt to things like unpredictable weather patterns that are completely random? It couldn’t, because if the patterns are changing faster than the animals are evolving (and if we got rid of the moon, the ozone layer, changed our orbit or our Earth’s crust they certainly would be) all life wouldn’t adapt quick enough and it would die.
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You good...
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Itachi Uchiha wrote:
Said who the Qur’an not support math...???
Later I’ll post this but I must translate it first so just wait and see Gplex...
Advance maths please.
— — — — — — — — — — — — — — —
Even evolutionists admit that the chances of the right atoms and molecules falling into place, assuming the universe had existed for a time of 15 billion years, to form just one simple protien molecule would be extremely low. I will not write it down (we cannot use mathermatical shorthand with this forum, sadly) but the number would be a 1, followed by about 113 zeros. That’s a lot bigger than the estimated amount of atoms in the universe.
And that’s only to form ONE protien molecule. A living cell will need about 2000 different protiens to maintain it’s activity! So multiply a 1, followed by 113 zeros 2000 times.
113 x 2000 = 2,226,000
That’s a one followed by about two and a quater million zeros.
— — — — — — — — — — — —
Therefore the chances of life happening to have appeared once in the universe by chance over a span of 15 billion years is a 1 against a number 1 followed by two and a quater million zeros.
And that’s only once. Think about all the times life would have perished along the way and had to start again millions of times over.
That advanced enough for you?
Besides, if life is so widespread in the universe, howcome we haven’t found any aliens yet?
Ah probabilities... These are all bullshit.... any type of maths such as these can be manipulated to what every you want.
Aliens... wtf how far outside our solor system have we got? Again This is a strawman because I didnt even say life is widespread.
That’s a strawman, I didn’t actually say the reason we haven’t found aliens is because life is rare did I? You did not say I said life is rare (although I believe it is) but you implied it. Therefore you cannot call this argument a strawman without forming a strawman yourself.
Actually its not. You sugested that life is not wide spread, even though I never calm it was.. Show me the part I implied it.. Your concepts of everything is kind of strange.
Sean of the Living wrote:
Besides, if life is so widespread in the universe, howcome we haven’t found any aliens yet?
Sean of the Living wrote:
I didn’t actually say the reason we haven’t found aliens is because life is rare did I?
No you said wide spread.... you made a paradox in your first statement. how can that be ditto...
--- Theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena.
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
You Gplex made paradox and Mysql inur statement...
what...
Sean of the Living wrote:
Besides, if life is so widespread in the universe, howcome we haven’t found any aliens yet?
Gplex wrote:
Ah probabilities... These are all bullshit.... any type of maths such as these can be manipulated to what every you want.
Aliens... wtf how far outside our solor system have we got? Again This is a strawman because I didnt even say life is widespread.
Sean of the Living wrote:
That’s a strawman, I didn’t actually say the reason we haven’t found aliens is because life is rare did I?
Gplex wrote:
Actually its not. You sugested that life is not wide spread, even though I never calm it was.. Show me the part I implied it.. Your concepts of everything is kind of strange.
Ok first off strawman means you set up a 'strawman' to argue against... which he clear did twice... so how did I make a paradox?
--- Theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena.
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
You Gplex made paradox and Mysql inur statement...
what...
Sean of the Living wrote:
Besides, if life is so widespread in the universe, howcome we haven’t found any aliens yet?
Gplex wrote:
Ah probabilities... These are all bullshit.... any type of maths such as these can be manipulated to what every you want.
Aliens... wtf how far outside our solor system have we got? Again This is a strawman because I didnt even say life is widespread.
Sean of the Living wrote:
That’s a strawman, I didn’t actually say the reason we haven’t found aliens is because life is rare did I?
Gplex wrote:
Actually its not. You sugested that life is not wide spread, even though I never calm it was.. Show me the part I implied it.. Your concepts of everything is kind of strange.
Ok first off strawman means you set up a 'strawman' to argue against... which he clear did twice... so how did I make a paradox?
I do not imply anything, what I say is what I mean stop I am not some religious text, dont treat my words as such.
--- Theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena.
i dont believe hes real, people who say “no god nor morals' have no idea what they are talking about, i am a devout atheist, and you know my morals? respect other religions. just like everything else, i may not agree with you but i do respect you.
Ha Ha.
Gplex has been creating a strawman this whole time!
You haven’t been trying to disprove God, you’re been trying to disprove the worlds major religions. I hate to tell you this buddy, but God might simply not be known to humanity. He might have made the big band, or evolution, hell, God might be something very alien, such as an omnipotent equation. You can’t disprove it Gplex, you’ve been making a strawman. You’e just been pointing out what think are errors in the Bible and Quran, when really, you should’ve been trying to disprove the idea that the universe began from an omnipotent force.
So by accusing everyone of making strawmans, you have just become a hypocrite. Congratulations.
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Last edited 15 Jan 2008 04:49 pm by Sean of the Living
Read this if your stupid 222222 wrote:
heres a poll were you can talk about wether god is real or not
You can not just say “God” and expect us to know which one... I cant comment because their may be a god, but you havn’t define which one.
--- Theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena.
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