| 11 Sep 2007 09:49 pm |
Agent of Chaos Rep: 47  Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 38,722 OFFLINE | Alright enough second guessing yourself or denying facts. Global Warming is real and happening. Anyone that tells you otherwise obviously doesnt' know anything about shit.
So what actions politically need to start being taken. Cause in 50 years some parts of the world will be under water. Which means mass refugees. You saw how well we’ve handled that in other situations, ie Katrina ect.
Is there anyway to stop it or protect against it. Or is mother nature simply getting its revenge and there is nothing we can do to stop it.
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| 11 Sep 2007 10:18 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 23 Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 3,676 OFFLINE | Well Zucas....
Third Question:
Even if the entire world were to clean up it’s act..I mean, no polluting what so ever. Even, say, if all the humans suddenly died of natural causes. The Earth would continue to warm for...shoot, I don’t remember how long...but for a long time.
So no, there’s nothing we can do to stop it. That said, if doing absolutely everything in our power to stop global warming wont halt it (human contributions to global warming that is)...you can imagine what doing nothing or very little would do.
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| 11 Sep 2007 10:36 pm |
The Dog-Mod! Rep: 49 Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 18,578 | treeplanter wrote:
Well Zucas....
Third Question:
Even if the entire world were to clean up it’s act..I mean, no polluting what so ever. Even, say, if all the humans suddenly died of natural causes. The Earth would continue to warm for...shoot, I don’t remember how long...but for a long time.
So no, there’s nothing we can do to stop it. That said, if doing absolutely everything in our power to stop global warming wont halt it (human contributions to global warming that is)...you can imagine what doing nothing or very little would do.
First up.....HELLO TREEPLANTER
Nice to see you back for a bit
Secondly...I agree with Treeplanter. The damage has been done. We still need to stop, but stopping won’t halt the process.
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| 11 Sep 2007 10:44 pm |
Regular Rep: 0  Joined: 15 May 2007 Posts: 200 OFFLINE | there is no global warming
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| 11 Sep 2007 10:50 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 23Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 3,676 OFFLINE | Oh hi firewolf!
I’m loving the props and hugs from people! Totally making my day
Question 2:
I don’t know.
Lol, that’s it.
Well, I mean, politically there’s tons of possible policies regulations and laws that could be implemented...some more realistic then others. But it’s just not feasible to stop all CO2 emissions for instance. Not with the western lifestyle anyway.
Guess I just wanted to say hi to firewolf, I’ve really got nothing on this right now
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| 12 Sep 2007 12:05 am |
Dr. Matt Rep: 46 Joined: 07 Jul 2006 Posts: 14,449 OFFLINE | Maybe if we just drop a huge ice cube in the oceans every now and then... I’m not suggesting that as a serious and/or complete solution, so don’t go bout saying how that ide is stupid
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the21gamer wrote:
fuck that load of bullshit. i dont care if the enemy dies. not fighting back is stupid
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| 12 Sep 2007 12:17 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 23 Joined: 24 Mar 2007 Posts: 1,685 OFFLINE | I’m guessing you watched An Incoveint Truth. except most of the movie was bullshit as global warming is in fact the earths fault for outputting 1900 times more tons of carbon dioxide then humans, so humans have very little effect on the atmosphere even after changing to more environmentally friendly fuels we would reduce the temperature no more than .01 degrees Celsius.
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| 12 Sep 2007 07:10 am |
Dr. Matt Rep: 46Joined: 07 Jul 2006 Posts: 14,449 OFFLINE | Don’t you see? It doesn’t matter who’s or what’s fault it is. It’s going to happen. Maybe if we actually do something instead of pointing fingers.
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the21gamer wrote:
fuck that load of bullshit. i dont care if the enemy dies. not fighting back is stupid
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| 12 Sep 2007 03:00 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 23Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 3,676 OFFLINE | bant car dice wrote:
I’m guessing you watched An Incoveint Truth. except most of the movie was bullshit as global warming is in fact the earths fault for outputting 1900 times more tons of carbon dioxide then humans, so humans have very little effect on the atmosphere even after changing to more environmentally friendly fuels we would reduce the temperature no more than .01 degrees Celsius.
Not sure if you were talking to me or not but....
I’m actually an environmental studies major, so I do look at primary research from all sorts of different angles. (And I did watch an Inconvenient Truth...but wasn’t very pleased with it).
And of course the earth outputs tones of CO2, it makes up a good chunk of our atmosphere! But the Earth can balance that amount pretty well, the temperature only gets out of whack in the short term when, say, a volcano erupts.
The Earth also goes through temperature fluctuations naturally, but the extra stuff that humans are contributing into the system means that the earth is undergoing changes faster then ever seen before.
So those earth systems that have been in place for billions of years(changing all the time...but more slowly) will react differently then normally because of “sudden”(in earth terms) changes. That means problems for us in a big way since it’s been hard enough to predict weather and the like without having this extra anomaly to take into account.
Lol, sorry...I like to explain things as best I can :P
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| 12 Sep 2007 05:38 pm |
Agent of Chaos Rep: 47Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 38,722 OFFLINE | bant car dice wrote:
I’m guessing you watched An Incoveint Truth. except most of the movie was bullshit as global warming is in fact the earths fault for outputting 1900 times more tons of carbon dioxide then humans, so humans have very little effect on the atmosphere even after changing to more environmentally friendly fuels we would reduce the temperature no more than .01 degrees Celsius.
Yes even without human destruction to the Earth we would go under a climate shift overtime. But not in 50 years. More like in 50 million years.
It is our fault and you can’t get around that.
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| 12 Sep 2007 05:39 pm |
Agent of Chaos Rep: 47Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 38,722 OFFLINE | treeplanter wrote:
Well Zucas....
Third Question:
Even if the entire world were to clean up it’s act..I mean, no polluting what so ever. Even, say, if all the humans suddenly died of natural causes. The Earth would continue to warm for...shoot, I don’t remember how long...but for a long time.
So no, there’s nothing we can do to stop it. That said, if doing absolutely everything in our power to stop global warming wont halt it (human contributions to global warming that is)...you can imagine what doing nothing or very little would do.
So that’s our mentality. There’s nothing we can do to stop it so we just might as well let it take its course. Haha oh we can’t stop anything so we’ll jsut let all humanity be wiped out. There is stuff we can do and if we survive the harsh time maybe somewhere down the long future human life will survive and they can live a better life.
Whether its hopeless or not we are still entitled to do something.
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| 12 Sep 2007 06:02 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 23Joined: 24 Mar 2007 Posts: 1,685 OFFLINE | Zucas wrote:
bant car dice wrote:
I’m guessing you watched An Incoveint Truth. except most of the movie was bullshit as global warming is in fact the earths fault for outputting 1900 times more tons of carbon dioxide then humans, so humans have very little effect on the atmosphere even after changing to more environmentally friendly fuels we would reduce the temperature no more than .01 degrees Celsius.
Yes even without human destruction to the Earth we would go under a climate shift overtime. But not in 50 years. More like in 50 million years.
It is our fault and you can’t get around that.
Its a cyclical temperature change, in the 70s people were worried about an Ice Age, and it is hot now and we will worry about Global warming, but I personally don’t believe it is the fault of humans, you might say i just don’t want to take blame for it but i guess i don’t .
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| 12 Sep 2007 06:25 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 23Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 3,676 OFFLINE | Zucas wrote:
treeplanter wrote:
Well Zucas....
Third Question:
Even if the entire world were to clean up it’s act..I mean, no polluting what so ever. Even, say, if all the humans suddenly died of natural causes. The Earth would continue to warm for...shoot, I don’t remember how long...but for a long time.
So no, there’s nothing we can do to stop it. That said, if doing absolutely everything in our power to stop global warming wont halt it (human contributions to global warming that is)...you can imagine what doing nothing or very little would do.
So that’s our mentality. There’s nothing we can do to stop it so we just might as well let it take its course. Haha oh we can’t stop anything so we’ll jsut let all humanity be wiped out. There is stuff we can do and if we survive the harsh time maybe somewhere down the long future human life will survive and they can live a better life.
Whether its hopeless or not we are still entitled to do something.
Right...that was my point Doing nothing only makes it worse...so doing something would of course be better!
Not to mention the whole plethora of environmental problems other then global warming that come about from the same sources. So tackling any “global warming” problem will hopefully have beneficial effects for other environmental problems as well (though not always...).
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| 12 Sep 2007 06:32 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 23Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 3,676 OFFLINE | bant car dice wrote:
Its a cyclical temperature change, in the 70s people were worried about an Ice Age, and it is hot now and we will worry about Global warming, but I personally don’t believe it is the fault of humans, you might say i just don’t want to take blame for it but i guess i don’t .
Mmmm...that’s too bad. I guess everything comes down to belief, but that doesn’t make it any less frustrating.
Being in my field I sometimes forget how people can think about things like this.
Almost like religion...so many wont really acknowledge anything that might contradict their beliefs.
Ah well!
Sorry Zucas, figured this would happen, but it sure does make a good point:
How are we going to do anything about Global Warming if so much of the populous still don’t believe humans have any effect on the climate?
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| 12 Sep 2007 07:29 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 14 Joined: 02 May 2006 Posts: 4,720 OFFLINE | The earth is going through another heating phase, and even if we stopped driving cars, using factories, breathing, or anything else that outputs carbon dioxide it won’t do shit because it’s a phase. So no it’s not much of our fault at all.
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| 12 Sep 2007 08:26 pm |
Agent of Chaos Rep: 47Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 38,722 OFFLINE | treeplanter wrote:
bant car dice wrote:
Its a cyclical temperature change, in the 70s people were worried about an Ice Age, and it is hot now and we will worry about Global warming, but I personally don’t believe it is the fault of humans, you might say i just don’t want to take blame for it but i guess i don’t .
Mmmm...that’s too bad. I guess everything comes down to belief, but that doesn’t make it any less frustrating.
Being in my field I sometimes forget how people can think about things like this.
Almost like religion...so many wont really acknowledge anything that might contradict their beliefs.
Ah well!
Sorry Zucas, figured this would happen, but it sure does make a good point:
How are we going to do anything about Global Warming if so much of the populous still don’t believe humans have any effect on the climate?
Sad to thing we still have denyers of this.
Well here’s the legit part. These denyers won’t be laughing when in 50 years that so many parts of the world are now underwater that we have over 1 billion refugees worldwide. Mass hysteria will put the belief back in these people.
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| 12 Sep 2007 08:46 pm |
Dr. Matt Rep: 46Joined: 07 Jul 2006 Posts: 14,449 OFFLINE | It’s all George Bush’s fault!!!
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the21gamer wrote:
fuck that load of bullshit. i dont care if the enemy dies. not fighting back is stupid
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| 12 Sep 2007 10:02 pm |
Agent of Chaos Rep: 47Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 38,722 OFFLINE | ramunematt wrote:
It’s all George Bush’s fault!!!
It’s humanity’s fault. He’s not alone in this. The entire human race is at fault.
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| 13 Sep 2007 01:22 am |
Loli Master (Kinky Bear) Rep: 27 Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Posts: 6,421 OFFLINE | ramunematt wrote:
It’s all George Bush’s fault!!!
I’m sorry, but if that was a serious statement, you just lost credibility with me.
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| 13 Sep 2007 01:36 am |
Regular Rep: 0 Joined: 09 Sep 2007 Posts: 341 OFFLINE | its my bushs fault
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Itachi, you have been saying that over and over like a broken record but you have yet to back it up with any proof.
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