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ramunarse wrote: its my bushs fault


Hedge trimmers ftw.

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Maggot Face wrote:
ramunarse wrote: its my bushs fault


Hedge trimmers ftw.

but my wii wii would ne more effective

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ramunematt wrote: Itachi, you have been saying that over and over like a broken record but you have yet to back it up with any proof.

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13 Sep 2007 01:51 am
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Is it sharp like a blade? shocked

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well i do have sharp testecles...

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ramunematt wrote: Itachi, you have been saying that over and over like a broken record but you have yet to back it up with any proof.

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shocked

Let’s shave Scott’s head!

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ok!

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ramunematt wrote: Itachi, you have been saying that over and over like a broken record but you have yet to back it up with any proof.

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13 Sep 2007 10:01 am
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Zucas wrote:
ramunematt wrote: It’s all George Bush’s fault!!!


It’s humanity’s fault. He’s not alone in this. The entire human race is at fault.


I know, I just had an urge to say that haha.

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13 Sep 2007 11:59 am
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there’s no global warming
and if there were
there’s nothing humans can do without bda consequenses (did I type it right?)

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13 Sep 2007 12:29 pm
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shocked NOOOOOOOOshocked

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13 Sep 2007 01:45 pm
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bant car dice wrote: global warming is in fact the earths fault for outputting 1900 times more tons of carbon dioxide then humans


Wrong.

The Planet itself exchanges 150 Gigatonnes of CO2 per year. That is, releases it, then traps it again. In fact, the sea and forests only have a combined net uptake of 3.0 Gigatonnes per year.

Comparitively, we as human beings, release 6.2 Gigatonnes per year.

That leaves 3.2 Gigatonnes unaccounted for, which end up in the atmosphere. Considering the atmosphere contains 760 Gigatonnes of CO2, that’s a reasonable addition to the Atmospheric CO2 Concentration, and the net effect, year after year, is enormous. In fact, the atmospheric concentration is 25% higher than it used to be; a net gain of 152 Gigatonnes. That’s a helluva lot.

So yes, the planet releases more CO2 than we do. It also absorbs it again, and then some, so the planet actually stores more CO2 per year than it gives out.

Please do some research before typing contrived bullshit again.

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14 Sep 2007 04:50 pm
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DrumIntoTheNight wrote:
bant car dice wrote: global warming is in fact the earths fault for outputting 1900 times more tons of carbon dioxide then humans


Wrong.

The Planet itself exchanges 150 Gigatonnes of CO2 per year. That is, releases it, then traps it again. In fact, the sea and forests only have a combined net uptake of 3.0 Gigatonnes per year.

Comparitively, we as human beings, release 6.2 Gigatonnes per year.

That leaves 3.2 Gigatonnes unaccounted for, which end up in the atmosphere. Considering the atmosphere contains 760 Gigatonnes of CO2, that’s a reasonable addition to the Atmospheric CO2 Concentration, and the net effect, year after year, is enormous. In fact, the atmospheric concentration is 25% higher than it used to be; a net gain of 152 Gigatonnes. That’s a helluva lot.

So yes, the planet releases more CO2 than we do. It also absorbs it again, and then some, so the planet actually stores more CO2 per year than it gives out.

Please do some research before typing contrived bullshit again.




Ha. That’s much more technical then my answer (I don’t have a head for numbers), thanx!

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15 Sep 2007 04:29 am
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No worries. I found the figures in my Renewable Energy textbook, tbh, although I did some of the maths myself.

Interesting development right here. The ice in the Arctic has been melting at a rate of 100,000 Sq. Km per year, but this year, the rate has been 1,000,000 Sq. Km. Looks like the warming is accelerating (interestingly, we’re currently being buffered by various planetary cycles, and after 2009, the heating will increase drastically).

We’re fucked.

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17 Sep 2007 09:13 am
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Little, but I don’t really think its that bad. I find that most of the people who really push Global Warming have the most to gain from it or are communist throw backs who are trying to destroy privet sector any way they can.

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17 Sep 2007 10:34 am
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You just contradicted yourself.

If people have something to gain from it, you’re implying that money can be made from it. Yet you also say that the people involved are trying to destroy the Private Sector; something which will gain big-time (and is doing so already) from the push towards a Green Lifestyle.

That doesn’t correlate. Make your mind up.

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17 Sep 2007 02:30 pm
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Weasel 16 wrote: Little, but I don’t really think its that bad. I find that most of the people who really push Global Warming have the most to gain from it or are communist throw backs who are trying to destroy privet sector any way they can.





I’m glad you added your opinion, but I think you’re a little off on that comment.

I understand that most people get their information about global warming from public figures and what is said on the news, but it’s been primarily scientists and then advocate groups that have been pushing politicians and the public to take their findings seriously.

I understand that they could have something to gain from that, but on the whole, no, they don’t really stand to gain anything except maybe a cleaner planet.

Global warming and politics can’t be separated.
Which is a point I’d like to make; from the start it has been less about the science and more about the politics. That’s understandable but that also means that there has been a great deal of truth bending for a long time now. And even though most groups and governments have gone back on their previous statements(for fear of seeming like idiots in the face of so much evidence...and wanting to be in sync with public sentiment) many of their ideas about what they wanted the public to think about global warming still persist and have become somewhat ingrained.


Phew. That’s all.

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It’s my opinion and that of many scientists that human contribution to global warming is minimal at best. The earth itself produced toxic gases on a far larger scale than we as humans can hope to match. If this wasn’t the case we would still be in the ice age, as a global warming wouldn’t have melted the enlarged polar ice caps. The earths temperature flows through a several thousand year long cycle, we are just catching the hot part of the cycle. Think of it like the seasons, during certain parts of the year it’s really hot, and other parts of the year it’s cold, humans can change these conditions only so much. The earth is going into a global “summer”, personally I think this is a good thing, burning and hallowing out a lot of the useless crap on this planet.

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18 Sep 2007 06:56 pm
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DrumIntoTheNight wrote: You just contradicted yourself.

If people have something to gain from it, you’re implying that money can be made from it. Yet you also say that the people involved are trying to destroy the Private Sector; something which will gain big-time (and is doing so already) from the push towards a Green Lifestyle.

That doesn’t correlate. Make your mind up.


well when i say gain I mean power, power inset always money.

By the way, the global warming crowed doesn’t seem to mention that the ice is also melting on other planets. Do you mean that greenhouse gasses as traveling through space?

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derdev789 wrote: It’s my opinion and that of many scientists that human contribution to global warming is minimal at best. The earth itself produced toxic gases on a far larger scale than we as humans can hope to match. If this wasn’t the case we would still be in the ice age, as a global warming wouldn’t have melted the enlarged polar ice caps. The earths temperature flows through a several thousand year long cycle, we are just catching the hot part of the cycle. Think of it like the seasons, during certain parts of the year it’s really hot, and other parts of the year it’s cold, humans can change these conditions only so much. The earth is going into a global “summer”, personally I think this is a good thing, burning and hallowing out a lot of the useless crap on this planet.






Here’s a good point:


Carbon Dioxide has increased at something like 30% since 1750 and that is faster then any time in the last 20,000 years. The concentration that it’s at today is the highest it’s been in about 450,000 years.

Obviously that’s going to lead to warmer temperatures; but as for the question of whether or not that increase in CO2 is due to a human influence....

Well, 1750 just happens to be right at the beginning of the industrial revolution, funny coincidence eh? And like you said...the Earth goes through long-term cycles; thousands of years. So how come this big increase is only in a few hundred? In Earth terms that is a very short time for that kind of chemical change in the atmosphere.

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18 Sep 2007 11:37 pm
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Weasel 16 wrote:

By the way, the global warming crowed doesn’t seem to mention that the ice is also melting on other planets. Do you mean that greenhouse gasses as traveling through space?



Not going to lie...I don’t quite get what you’re trying to say here.......
Although I’d love to have an astronomy topic goingsmiley

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