Invaderzym wrote:
If the z fighters were out of control then every missed ki blast would destroy the planet. Mental blocks? Can you prove that? Also mental blocks or not him craking a planet is the most damage we’ve seen him do. With Gogeta we can say he can destroy a gaalxy cause he’s stronger than someone who did. If you can do that with superman (Say he can smash a dozen planet cause he’s stronger than someone who did) then please go for it. We need to TRY to figure out his max damage
They can barely control there energy output or anything.Yes I can prove it its in my respect thread.Fail since I showed you proof he can do more than that.
Invaderzym wrote:
But it doesn’t help him in the fight. No point in bringing it up
Yes it does.He’s faster.
Invaderzym wrote:
Can you prove that?
Other than there comics are connected and Bronze Age knows the events Silver Age went through.
Invaderzym wrote:
Speculation. There’s no proof that’s why the kid survived. It could just be because Janemaba was destroyed. If you’re going to say it only works on evil then you need to give me some real proof
That was the proof.You just don’t accept it.
Invaderzym wrote:
No you showed me he can take A galaxy buster. Since Gogeta is stronger than Broly but at the VERY LEAST 4, then that’s more than one
Note energy of MULTIPLE QUASARS which is the energy of a galaxy while he was Bronze Age.
Invaderzym wrote:
Did I? I’ll have to go back and get back to it
fanboy_inc wrote:
when they were smiling,,, are they even serious or just playing around to see how strong each other is???
They were serious. Look at the video.
fanboy_inc wrote:
and youre still using NORMAL PEOPLE.. try using tiens vision...
Go2movies wrote:
Even if things move so fast people can’t see them, it’s still 1/60 of a second.
fanboy_inc wrote:
the point is,,, gogeta is a fusion of both adult goku and vegeta.. if youre going to use feats at least use adult goku feats..
Again, kid Goku and adult Goku are the same person so it doesn’t matter. What pare of that don’t you understand? You yourself said adult Goku is stronger than kid Goku in all categories (which would make sense anyway) so why are you even arguing about his feats (especially if you’re using Broly’s feats for Gogeta)?
Are you even arguing for Gogeta? Because this argument of yours shows differently.
fanboy_inc wrote:
now youre saying gogeta cant release a gaxy busting worth of energy?? and when did i say the moon and a galaxy is the same???
That’s the whole point; there’s no evidence that he can bust a galaxy. It’s just guessing. Also, when I said that the moon and galaxy is different, I was pointing how you can’t use the moon argument as proof that Gogeta can bust a galaxy. The moon and the galaxy are different.
fanboy_inc wrote:
although,, kid goku was actually MOVING WHILE SMILING... adult goku was just standing there looking at freeza DOING NOTHING...
How did Freeza get brought up?
fanboy_inc wrote:
thats true supes didnt want to destroy earth... thats the same with almost all dbz characters.. and who ever said dbz characters reduce their power so they cant destroy the planet??? they dont minimize the damge... they concentrate their power on their target only.. thus,, minimizing the damage to the planetnot minimizing their power..
I bolded it to show why I don’t get what you’re saying. It currently doesn’t make any sense.
actually they are not serious.. ive seen them being serious,,,
so, youll just stick to normal peoples vision instead of tiens superior vision huh??
they are the same person but kid goku is alot weaker.... its like ill use superman when he was a kid,,, he just lifted a car...
theres no feats... but if you use logic,,, i mean broly as a ssj,, busted a galaxy,,, super buu angered enough nearly destroyed the universe,,, what makes you think gogeta doesnt have enough power to bust a galxy??
you used him as an example of goku smiling when the situation is not easy..
you said vegeta reduced his final flashes power because he made it 'smaller'... that is not true... when vegeta made it smaller,, he FOCUSED ALL HIS POWER ON HIS TARGET ONLY..
vegeta made his attack smaller... read go2,, smaller not weaker...
there... itll be a while before ill post again sooo.. play nice...
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03 Jun 2008 08:37 am
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Ultraman wrote:
YOU SHOULD believe that someone who is stonger than someone else can do what they can do. Then again only someone who’s smart would beleive it so I understand if you don’t
Being stronger than someone doesn’t mean you posses the same abilities as them, what kind of stupid logic is that. Because by that pathetic and flawed Logic. Seohiroth can use Omnislash. Darkseid can fly WAY faster than light because he stomps Superman. Thanos has the Power Cosmic because he stomps the Silver Surfer. Spiderman can create a pocket verse because he’s physically stronger than Franklin Richards. Heck Gogeta can warp reality because he’s >> Janemba. And wow indirectly calling Go2 stupid, real mature way of debating.
Ultraman wrote:
Saying the spirit bomb doesn’t have enough power to destroy a planet is a new level of desperation for superman fanboys. Just when I think they’ve gone as low as they can they pull something dumber out. They just can’t accept the fact superman loses
This is the same person that thinks Gogeta can beat the Silver Surfer, ignorance and hypocrasy sucks in debates.
Mr Melee wrote:
I’s been proven. your dumbass just won’t accept it
Just like Gogeta will 'find a way' to beat the Silver Surfer, yeah sure.
Ultraman wrote:
Cause it wasn’t aimed at the planet. The final spirit bomb had energy from across the UNIVERSE. There’s no way it wasn’t planet destroying
Doesn’t make it universe busting. It stole energy from stars too?
Mr Melee wrote:
If the universe was destroyed would the earth be destroyed too? All they care about is the planet their on. They don’t care about anything else no the solar system or the galaxy or the universe. The planet they’re on is the main focus. just cause he said it would destroy the planet doesn’t means that’s all it would destroy
They should care about the Solar system, because without one, they’re screwed.
Invaderzym wrote:
You have. It’s called using supermans from different writers and timelines.
I forgot that DC own Superman and NOT the writers. And you forget that Post Crisis and Pre Crisis are actually the same PERSON, the reason Post Crisis is weaker is because he was AFFECTED BY THE CRISIS. Pre Crisis Superman was pulling powers from his ass and they wanted to tone him down.
Invaderzym wrote:
He probably did read the other posts and that’s why he said Gogeta like a smart person should
You can’t call anybody stupid if you think your heart stops everytime you sneeze, or do you want me to pull up the best quote on this site from you?
Indaverzym wrote:
Can you prove they do?
That makes absolutely NO SENSE, that would not only defeat the object of having heroes, but it would defeat the point in even making a series in the first place. If they didn’t care about the universe or whatever, all the heroes would have died and not cared ages ago. They can’t live if the universe dies now can they? That’s just on every level wrong.
Using quantatative data in a qualatative discussion? Does this feed your ego or something?
Invaderzym wrote:
Why? Cause you say so? No scans you’ve given show superman has a chance of winning
Your statement can work both ways, Gogeta wins because you say so? And judging by your post your ignorance as reached a all time high. Where’s the proof that Gogeta wins other than he’s stronger than Omega Shenron?
Mr Melee wrote:
I laugh at you every time you demand canon proof in a non-canon arguement cause you know you’re getting pwned. We can use non-canon so deal with it
Is that why Majin, Ultraman, Zym, SuperX and yourself completely missed posts from me that discredit theirs and yours?
Invaderzym wrote:
It’s been proven. There have been dozens of ways people said Gogeta would win. You just ignore them and make up bull shit like star dust breaker only works on evil people and superman isn’t evil or just cause Gogeta is stronger than Broly doesn’t mean he can do the same damage Broly can
Oh lol, the hypocrasy in this post. We think out reflexes. Lightning is 1/3 speed of light. Dodging something means you are faster than it. Sneezing makes your heart stop. Super Buu and I can’t remember the other can solo Marvel and DC. Having the energy to blow something up, means you can use this energy as a shield. Gogeta is stronger than all these dues, so he has ALL OF THERE ABILITES. But it doesn’t work for the SAME SUPERMAN WHO HAS BEEN DEPOWERED. All of these are your words.
Invaderzym wrote:
12 planets. That also doesn’t tell us how it would help him in battle as the most damage he’s done by himself is crack a planet
A galaxy of planets, fail. It does tell you how it will help in battle, it shows the kind of strength that can be applied to a speed blitz punch, which is more powerful because it’s increasing in force with speed.
Invaderzym wrote:
it is. PC superman is canon only to his own universe. As is bronze age and golden age, and prime. Bringing on of them into account when talking about another superman is non canon
Only Prime is from different universe here, Earth-Prime Universe. And considering you know about Superman such as the Ali incident, I don’t know how your argument weighs up.
Invaderzym wrote:
No. I’ve can respect opinions. If someone thinks superman would win that’s fine. Have I ever given someone a hard time JUST for saying superman?
This is the most absolute proof that you don’t even read your own posts, it’s just the best lolwtfpwn yourself I’ve ever seen. Take notice of what is bolded here dude.
Invaderzym wrote:
Took off all the idiots on the superman side, yeah sorry that doesn’t work. They think Gogeta would win. Just cause you don’t like their reasons doesn’t mean their vote doesn’t count. I think you and bustersword and every superman supporter is an idioit but I still counted your vote. Also yes guest did say Gogeta would win. You even said you don’t remember. Go back and make sure why dno’t you?
Dude you can’t even lie properly.
After all that you guys decided to end the thread? hot daym. LOL.
Im going with superman i mean he has an unlimited speed source do u kno how fast that is thats the fastest u can go its unlimited he is also super man almost no one has physical strenght like him and superman could easily blow up a planet infact he could wipe out all life on it and then blow it up in like point zero seconds
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