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16 May 2008 08:01 pm
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rocks...

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16 May 2008 08:06 pm
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Itachi Uchiha wrote: rocks...


Um... I was talking about your statement thar.

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16 May 2008 08:09 pm
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hmmm... master... I read the superman vs darkseid and I still see the rocks and planets remain...

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Itachi Uchiha wrote: hmmm... master... I read the superman vs darkseid and I still see the rocks and planets remain...


Where did you read this?

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#545
17 May 2008 04:16 am
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we have a denial.
denial,now tell us where’s your proof huh?
how many times he encreased in one year after freeza saga?dont tell me 2x?you failed you didn’t know,right?
how many times he boost (the speed) after 100x g?
your own calculation must be base from dbz history not just saying 2x without proof.

You just said your OWN calculation . Now you are saying the planets are bigger than earth because it has greater gravity, yet you fail to talk about mass, volume and density where mass is the most important.
they strong and fast...

Oh god, Superman must lose then.
6-4 Gogeta wins this. I see no point in continuing. If you guys are SO sure superman would win just say so and leave cause you’re not going to convince us otherwise. Enjoy fooling yourselfs Gogeta wins. End topic

So if you six all agreed that the world should end, you are right too? Since when does majority = win? You are just misinformed and delusional.
Also superman prime you suck at math. 1 milliom KM is nowhere close to 200,000 miles. You make up superman feats and can’t do math.[b] I don’t even think I should count you

Talk about being biased.
Oh no we do. YOU guys just ignore them, make stupid shit up to belittle them and make superman better than he actually is. Yes it is obvious who wins, just not to you. Majority wins as such Gogeta wins. Have a nice day

You take these character debates too seriously for one, belittle characters? Lmao we don’t care, we just say who loses/wins and why. And you are calling us ignorant, did you miss all the scans MB showed you? Then you just come back with silly reasons, lol not even reasons like 'Gogeta wins because...' oh there’s no reason. And I see you are so ignorant it’s unbelieveable, you are telling me we are ignorant and YOU missed Ultraman’s banworthy post? Let me remind you.
Ultraman wrote: You know what I don’t give a shit. This site houses some of the worst superman fanboys who are walking, talking contradictions! Maybe I should just leave and let you all talk about how superman is the greatest hero ever while masturbating to his picture. I know you do. God I think Gogeta would win but I’m not fucking saying it would be an easy battle like you guys. You guys accuse cell of lying about destroying a galaxy but then bring up character who you say said the could destroy a universe but didn’t and believe them. You know what you can go join prime

You know why that is bolded? Because of what Ultraman said to Prime
Ultraman wrote: Seriously, please just die

Don’t talk about ignorance when you can’t even see past someone on your side flaming.
At least they didn’t make shit up. Bustersword didn’t give a reason nor did chibi. You’re the only one. Everyone else is just agreeing with you.

Make shit up? Itachi doesn’t even know who Post Crisis Superman is, so don’t go on this rampage of we’re only agreeing with MB, what else can we do when HE IS PORVIDING THE SCANS, just because we can’t show you the scans which MB can, that doesn’t mean we are blindly agreeing with him.
BTW, to add to Chaosmages theory on cells bomb being a stronger than a single planet buster.

I just can’t believe the double standard in this post, the height of your hypocrasy is unbelievable, you question the big bang theory to try and destroy Manchester Blacks post, but you completely ignore Chaosmages theory and assume it’s fact and use it to help your argument, that’s just lame dude.
There’s actual proof of it that’s been over looked.

There’s empirical eivdence for the big bang, formation of stars, the existance of Jesus, but you’d deny this because it doesn’t help DBZ in anyway.
The fact that it destroyed king kai’s planet means it’s more than a single planet buster. Look, king kai’s planet is much smaller than earth. HOWEVER it has 10times more gravty than earth. The two things that determine a planets gravity is mass and density.

And mass is more imporatant than density, because if you don’t have mass, you can’t have density.
Since king kai’s planet’s mass was much MUCH less that earth, but had more than 10 times gravity, that means it was a whole lot more dense than earth.

The bolded of the word 'much' is actually helping my argument, because you can’t have density without mass, mass = more imporatant as density would not exist without it.
That means it would take more power and energy to destroy king kai’s planet than earth.

Not necessarily.
Think of it like a 6 inch iron ball and a 20 foot Styrofoam ball. The iron ball is much smaller than the styrofoam ball but more dense and it takes more power to destroy it than the styofoam ball. So this means cells bomb WAS more than a single planet buster. By it destroying king kai’s planet that had 10 times more gravity, meaning it was about 10 times more dense than earth, it means cells bomb could destroy the earth 10 times over.

Destroy earth 10 times over? Did I just see you selectively use one variable to help your argument, and IGNORE the other. Your argument fails because you said Earth has MUCH MORE mass, you killed your argument without even knowing.

And Science FTW?, the big bang is science. Lmao it’s funny how you only try to use it when it helps your argument, but you still failed dude. I guess you might call me an idiot for debating with you, it’s what you’re good at calling people.

Also I prove just cause the big bang destroyed the universe doesn’t mean it can do it again

I guess Broly can never destroy a galaxy again, yet you call him a galaxy buster, do you smell the hypocrasy? It’s filling up the room here.
DC characters: He can destroy the universe
you: OMG teh cool!

Cell: I can destroy the solar system
you: OMG teh lier!

Goku: This guy could destry the universe
you: OMG teh lier!

kai: His energy is destroying the universe
you: OMG teh lier!

Its a shame DC characters HAVE destroyed the universe, even multiverses.
The kamehameha push brolly to the sun in just few second... and the light need 8 minutes to reach the earth which mean for Vegeta etc avoiding kamehameha proves that they move faster than light...

Someone doesn’t know what reflexes/reactions are.

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17 May 2008 04:17 am
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You should see that site carefully...

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#547
17 May 2008 06:21 am
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ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
He defently DID NOT destroy the galaxy planet by planet. I can EASILY prove it to you. If he had destroyed the galaxy planet by planet do you know how LONG it would take? Also, it takes lightyears to get from one end of the galaxy to the other and if Broly was doing that, King kia would have known about it sooner.

Also may I point out, whenever the galaxy is destroyed the narrarater says “The South Galaxy has just been destroyed...by a super saiyan”


Thats not proof, thats an assumption, I watched that aswell, nothing ever showed he 1 shot a galaxy. No explosions, he destroyed the galaxy by destroying planets 1 by 1, Hell, trust me I tried using that as an arguement once for a dbz vs thread, and even DBZ supporters disagrees with, they said things like ' — its too far stretched dude calm down.... — '

So no he didn’t , I argued for that in a thread call: Kenshiro Vs Cell or Broly I forgot, its 1 of these 2. DBZ fans called me on it , even them disagrees with the galaxy busting!

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17 May 2008 06:51 am
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gogeta wins this easy!

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Buster Sword wrote:
we have a denial.
denial,now tell us where’s your proof huh?
how many times he encreased in one year after freeza saga?dont tell me 2x?you failed you didn’t know,right?
how many times he boost (the speed) after 100x g?
your own calculation must be base from dbz history not just saying 2x without proof.

You just said your OWN calculation
. Now you are saying the planets are bigger than earth because it has greater gravity, yet you fail to talk about mass, volume and density where mass is the most important.
they strong and fast...

Oh god, Superman must lose then.
6-4 Gogeta wins this. I see no point in continuing. If you guys are SO sure superman would win just say so and leave cause you’re not going to convince us otherwise. Enjoy fooling yourselfs Gogeta wins. End topic

So if you six all agreed that the world should end, you are right too? Since when does majority = win? You are just misinformed and delusional.
Also superman prime you suck at math. 1 milliom KM is nowhere close to 200,000 miles. You make up superman feats and can’t do math.[b] I don’t even think I should count you

Talk about being biased.
Oh no we do. YOU guys just ignore them, make stupid shit up to belittle them and make superman better than he actually is. Yes it is obvious who wins, just not to you. Majority wins as such Gogeta wins. Have a nice day

You take these character debates too seriously for one, belittle characters? Lmao we don’t care, we just say who loses/wins and why. And you are calling us ignorant, did you miss all the scans MB showed you? Then you just come back with silly reasons, lol not even reasons like 'Gogeta wins because...' oh there’s no reason. And I see you are so ignorant it’s unbelieveable, you are telling me we are ignorant and YOU missed Ultraman’s banworthy post? Let me remind you.
Ultraman wrote: You know what I don’t give a shit. This site houses some of the worst superman fanboys who are walking, talking contradictions! Maybe I should just leave and let you all talk about how superman is the greatest hero ever while masturbating to his picture. I know you do. God I think Gogeta would win but I’m not fucking saying it would be an easy battle like you guys. You guys accuse cell of lying about destroying a galaxy but then bring up character who you say said the could destroy a universe but didn’t and believe them. You know what you can go join prime

You know why that is bolded? Because of what Ultraman said to Prime
Ultraman wrote: Seriously, please just die

Don’t talk about ignorance when you can’t even see past someone on your side flaming.
At least they didn’t make shit up. Bustersword didn’t give a reason nor did chibi. You’re the only one. Everyone else is just agreeing with you.

Make shit up? Itachi doesn’t even know who Post Crisis Superman is, so don’t go on this rampage of we’re only agreeing with MB, what else can we do when HE IS PORVIDING THE SCANS, just because we can’t show you the scans which MB can, that doesn’t mean we are blindly agreeing with him.
BTW, to add to Chaosmages theory on cells bomb being a stronger than a single planet buster.

I just can’t believe the double standard in this post, the height of your hypocrasy is unbelievable, you question the big bang theory to try and destroy Manchester Blacks post, but you completely ignore Chaosmages theory and assume it’s fact and use it to help your argument, that’s just lame dude.
There’s actual proof of it that’s been over looked.

There’s empirical eivdence for the big bang, formation of stars, the existance of Jesus, but you’d deny this because it doesn’t help DBZ in anyway.
The fact that it destroyed king kai’s planet means it’s more than a single planet buster. Look, king kai’s planet is much smaller than earth. HOWEVER it has 10times more gravty than earth. The two things that determine a planets gravity is mass and density.

And mass is more imporatant than density, because if you don’t have mass, you can’t have density.
Since king kai’s planet’s mass was much MUCH less that earth, but had more than 10 times gravity, that means it was a whole lot more dense than earth.

The bolded of the word 'much' is actually helping my argument, because you can’t have density without mass, mass = more imporatant as density would not exist without it.
That means it would take more power and energy to destroy king kai’s planet than earth.

Not necessarily.
Think of it like a 6 inch iron ball and a 20 foot Styrofoam ball. The iron ball is much smaller than the styrofoam ball but more dense and it takes more power to destroy it than the styofoam ball. So this means cells bomb WAS more than a single planet buster. By it destroying king kai’s planet that had 10 times more gravity, meaning it was about 10 times more dense than earth, it means cells bomb could destroy the earth 10 times over.

Destroy earth 10 times over? Did I just see you selectively use one variable to help your argument, and IGNORE the other. Your argument fails because you said Earth has MUCH MORE mass, you killed your argument without even knowing.

And Science FTW?, the big bang is science. Lmao it’s funny how you only try to use it when it helps your argument, but you still failed dude. I guess you might call me an idiot for debating with you, it’s what you’re good at calling people.

Also I prove just cause the big bang destroyed the universe doesn’t mean it can do it again

I guess Broly can never destroy a galaxy again, yet you call him a galaxy buster, do you smell the hypocrasy? It’s filling up the room here.
DC characters: He can destroy the universe
you: OMG teh cool!

Cell: I can destroy the solar system
you: OMG teh lier!

Goku: This guy could destry the universe
you: OMG teh lier!

kai: His energy is destroying the universe
you: OMG teh lier!

Its a shame DC characters HAVE destroyed the universe, even multiverses.
The kamehameha push brolly to the sun in just few second... and the light need 8 minutes to reach the earth which mean for Vegeta etc avoiding kamehameha proves that they move faster than light...

Someone doesn’t know what reflexes/reactions are.
i have my own calculation and it base from the history of dbz unlike others they just calculating or saying he encreased 2x without a proof.

now tell me how many times he encreased after freeza saga?
and since when you know his power level there?

when did i say that kai’s planet is bigger than earth?

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#550
17 May 2008 11:59 am
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So I see that, DBZ fans just won’t give up huh! When will they ever learn, Tsk...Tsk...Tsk!

#551
17 May 2008 12:48 pm
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have my own calculation and it base from the history of dbz unlike others they just calculating or saying he encreased 2x without a proof.

now tell me how many times he encreased after freeza saga?
and since when you know his power level there?

when did i say that kai’s planet is bigger than earth?

Bolded for emphasis.

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17 May 2008 02:33 pm
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Well your calculations are only right assuming they get the power increase you think they do. You think Goku gets 30,000 times stronger per year. If that was true, The Androids are more than 90,000 times stronger the Goku from the Namek saga.

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broly_ultimate wrote: gogeta wins this easy!


Dude Gogtea would get shitstomped you cleary didn’t look at the scans and I’m not surprised.

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#554
17 May 2008 02:53 pm
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Pre crisis FTW he’ll kick his ass to the phantom zone!

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Buster Sword wrote:
have my own calculation and it base from the history of dbz unlike others they just calculating or saying he encreased 2x without a proof.

now tell me how many times he encreased after freeza saga?
and since when you know his power level there?

when did i say that kai’s planet is bigger than earth?

Bolded for emphasis.

you didn’t get right?tell me,where did i base my calculation? from somewhere or yuyu history etc?
tell me if youre calculating characters power isn’t that your own calculation?
you questioning me then you can’t even show me a proof of how many times he encreased after the saga.

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17 May 2008 09:13 pm
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Pre-Crisis Superman ftw.

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ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote: Well your calculations are only right assuming they get the power increase you think they do. You think Goku gets 30,000 times stronger per year. If that was true, The Androids are more than 90,000 times stronger the Goku from the Namek saga.

in fact that is small and every year he encreasing more than that,and for this guys power level is not important.

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#558
18 May 2008 07:25 am
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you didn’t get right?tell me,where did i base my calculation? from somewhere or yuyu history etc?
tell me if youre calculating characters power isn’t that your own calculation?
you questioning me then you can’t even show me a proof of how many times he encreased after the saga.

It would be valid if characters were 31083028301830812 times more powerful than the other like the power level suggests, but guess what? THEY AREN’T. They’d never have a chance against characters on way higher power levels, thus meaning the power levels is not an accurate measure of ones speed, strength durability. There’s also the fact you said to other memebers they can create their own for more accuracy. Nobody seems to do that but you. But I can see this going in circles so I really don’t see the point in saying anything else.

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Buster Sword wrote:
you didn’t get right?tell me,where did i base my calculation? from somewhere or yuyu history etc?
tell me if youre calculating characters power isn’t that your own calculation?
you questioning me then you can’t even show me a proof of how many times he encreased after the saga.

It would be valid if characters were 31083028301830812 times more powerful than the other like the power level suggests, but guess what? THEY AREN’T. They’d never have a chance against characters on way higher power levels, thus meaning the power levels is not an accurate measure of ones speed, strength durability. There’s also the fact you said to other memebers they can create their own for more accuracy. Nobody seems to do that but you. But I can see this going in circles so I really don’t see the point in saying anything else.

prove it to me that the lower level can kill the higher opponent? and isn’t this what you meant?
they aren’t in what?
yes they can but they must use the history which is you can’t.

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#560
18 May 2008 11:13 am
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prove it to me that the lower level can kill the higher opponent? and isn’t this what you meant?
they aren’t in what?
yes they can but they must use the history which is you can’t.

I don’t have to prove anything, badies lose to the goodies who are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> goodies. If they are millions of times powerful, it shouldn’t be a fight.
I don’t follow you on that, what I’m saying, just because someones powerlevel says 1 and another says 2, that doesn’t mean they are 2 times better in every way. They get more powerful, but you can’t quantify it. I mean look at SSJ4 Goku, be honest, he a pussy.

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