Buster Sword wrote:
I don’t have to prove anything, badies lose to the goodies who are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> goodies. If they are millions of times powerful, it shouldn’t be a fight.
I don’t follow you on that, what I’m saying, just because someones powerlevel says 1 and another says 2, that doesn’t mean they are 2 times better in every way. They get more powerful, but you can’t quantify it. I mean look at SSJ4 Goku, be honest, he a pussy.

Buster Sword wrote: He’s stronger, but you can’t quantify it. And actually 1x would mean they are the same. If he was better in every way by like the number suggests, Goku wouldn’t touch him, as his reflexes would be too quick for Goku to attack.

add 8k = 16 is 1x stronger

this is a proof you denying kaio ken can multiply strength,speed and etc..
wouldn’t touched him?what do you think vegeta’s power he is over 18k and to surpass his strength goku needs to used power up.
if you say you can’t measure his strenght there’s no need to say goku would lose because you didn’t know his power.

Buster Sword wrote:
Eight divided by 16 = 2. So that would be twice as powerful.

Fail because you thought 16/8 was 1 when it’s two. I said you can’t quantify his strength with random numbers because they mean nothing as they prove nothing, they get stronger but you don’t say Darkseid is 130823x stronger than Superman, we just know that he IS stronger. I don’t know Goku’s power? I know he can’t lift a city in SSJ whatever state.

Buster Sword wrote:
Eight divided by 16 = 2. So that would be twice as powerful.

Fail because you thought 16/8 was 1 when it’s two. I said you can’t quantify his strength with random numbers because they mean nothing as they prove nothing, they get stronger but you don’t say Darkseid is 130823x stronger than Superman, we just know that he IS stronger. I don’t know Goku’s power? I know he can’t lift a city in SSJ whatever state.

goku has 8k then adding 8k = 16k then he is 1x but vegeta is 18k means over 1x a 2x is 24k.

that is kaio-ken which is multiplier don’t tell me when he used kaioken from 8k means he did not encreased 1x to 16?

maybe your answer is kaioken = o.5 encreased,right?

does darksied have power level to measure his strength?when dc gave this?

i thought in dc the feats must stated?

proove it you know he can’t lift a city?

Buster Sword wrote:
8 times 2 equal 16 dude, so it’s twice as much, if it was 1 times, it would still be 8, not 16.

For the love of Moses, 8 times 2 is 16. 8 times 1 is STILL 8
I just told you I can’t quantify it.

No buy Marvel has a class level of strength, class 100 is the heighest class (can lift 100 tonnes) but the thing with this is, there are characters who can lift WAY MORE than 100 tonnes, and there are some than can just do a bit more, they’re in the same class, but you can’t quantify their strength, we just know that some characters are stronger than others.

It can be displayed or stated.

Why did he have to transform if he could? Why was he struggling, you know he struggled with that city, there’s no point in denying it.

wow,goku has a strength of 8k then he power up to 16k

what do you think vegeta is 2x stronger than goku?no.he is 18k which is he is over 1x not 2x if he is 2x goku should have 1000k power and that is 2x.

fighting strength is different to lifting strenght and im talking dc not marvel.

what do you think is that a full strength of ssj4? and since when lifting strength = fighting strength?

Buster Sword wrote:
That doesn’t make any sense.

Did I say he was?
Again you fail to understand that something multiplied by 1 is itself.

No it isn’t, it’s how you APPLY your strength that is important, DC characters can spli planets with a punch, so the point still stands. No DC do not have a class system like Marvel, I used Marvel as an example.

If it wasn’t full strength, then why did he struggle?
Again you fail to recognise how you can apply your strength.

well you didn’t get.goku has 2x encreased then vegeta is 1x powerfull than goku.
no you failed to understand since goku multiply his power by 2 then vegeta is 1x powerfull than him.

what?haha youre funny lifting strenght is = fighting strenght?

again im not talking marvel im talking dc you can’t apply that to dc.

then why he struggle when he pushing up the bulding tell me is that his pull strenght?

again you can’t apply lifting strength to fighting strength.

old king piccolo punch is stronger than roshi’s kamehameha.

BlacakaNigh95 wrote: Gogeta SSJ4 got this one in the bag.

Itachi Uchiha wrote:

The kamehameha push brolly to the sun in just few second... and the light need 8 minutes to reach the earth which mean for Vegeta etc avoiding kamehameha proves that they move faster than light...

Buster Sword wrote: City dude, I’m talking about the city.

And this is why I laugh when people say Goku is stronger than Post Crisis Superman, never mind Pre Crisis.

Would you stop thinking logically for a moment and look at things from the real perspective?

Buster Sword wrote:
Do you want me to get a Math book out for you, 8 times 2 equal 16, it is TWICE as big of a number, 8 times 1 is STILL 8, seriously I’m gettin scared.
I failed? How is it that I know what 2 times 8 is and you don’t?


So the force you use to lift something can’t be applied to a punch? That does not make any sense. That’s like saying fast runners with lost of legs muscles can’t use their legs for anything else.

We actually can. Because characters have shown to lift more than 100 tonnes in DC too.

What? So there’s punching strength and pulling strength? What the hell is that? That makes no sense, the energy he used to lift it can be applied to a punch. You know about energy and stuff and force?

Yes you can, why is it that characters who can lift loads smash things with a single punch, the Hulk smashed an asteroid twice the size of earth. So you fail.

That makes no sense.