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#101
29 Apr 2008 11:32 pm
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Superman Prime wrote:
seed wrote:
RebornChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
98supra wrote:
RebornChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
98supra wrote:
Ultraman wrote:
98supra wrote:
Manchester Black wrote:
98supra wrote: O..........................................................

Well, I still say Gogeta wins.

Please tell me how especially after all those feats.


I dunno............................

U know, Your right, Supes will beat SSJ1 Gogeta.


Suepr Gogeta and Super Vegetto are the same in power. And so what if he can beat ssj1. There’s still 3 more forms to worry about



Wat the hell R u talking about, Veggeto is Stronger SSJ1 Gogeta.

IM A DBZ FREAK.

Wrong. Potara fusion is just said to be more effective. The good thing about potara is:
It’s infinite time limit
You don’t have to be at the same PL



OMG, Dude, Ive been wacthing this show sence I was 4.

Look up the power levels then.

PL was never stated atfer the trunks saga, you fail.

you failed the power level is stated there but no numbers.




you wrong not me.

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#102
30 Apr 2008 12:08 am
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seed wrote:
Superman Prime wrote:
seed wrote:
RebornChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
98supra wrote:
RebornChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
98supra wrote:
Ultraman wrote:
98supra wrote:
Manchester Black wrote:
98supra wrote: O..........................................................

Well, I still say Gogeta wins.

Please tell me how especially after all those feats.


I dunno............................

U know, Your right, Supes will beat SSJ1 Gogeta.


Suepr Gogeta and Super Vegetto are the same in power. And so what if he can beat ssj1. There’s still 3 more forms to worry about



Wat the hell R u talking about, Veggeto is Stronger SSJ1 Gogeta.

IM A DBZ FREAK.

Wrong. Potara fusion is just said to be more effective. The good thing about potara is:
It’s infinite time limit
You don’t have to be at the same PL



OMG, Dude, Ive been wacthing this show sence I was 4.

Look up the power levels then.

PL was never stated atfer the trunks saga, you fail.

you failed the power level is stated there but no numbers.




you wrong not me.




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#103
30 Apr 2008 04:24 am
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Also Janemba was warping reality. Of course if he keeps fucking with time and space he’s gonna destroy the unvierse

Janemba isn’t Mry Mxy, Or Sorceress Ultimecia or other top tier reality warpers.

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30 Apr 2008 07:01 am
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PLs are there but they are not stated so it doesn’t matter.

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#105
30 Apr 2008 07:02 am
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Buster Sword wrote:
Also Janemba was warping reality. Of course if he keeps fucking with time and space he’s gonna destroy the unvierse

Janemba isn’t Mry Mxy, Or Sorceress Ultimecia or other top tier reality warpers.

yeah that however means that just because goku can beat jameba, it doesnt mea he can survive a universe destroying blast

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#106
30 Apr 2008 09:48 am
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yeah that however means that just because goku can beat jameba, it doesnt mea he can survive a universe destroying blast


Yeah Goku isn’t Prime LOLZ

#107
30 Apr 2008 10:16 am
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Buster Sword wrote:
Also Janemba was warping reality. Of course if he keeps fucking with time and space he’s gonna destroy the unvierse

Janemba isn’t Mry Mxy, Or Sorceress Ultimecia or other top tier reality warpers.


how would he not be did you see the movie everything was warped the dead were freeling moving into the land of the living and coming back indeffinaly other places were frozen in crystal like there version of heaven

#108
30 Apr 2008 10:56 am
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how would he not be did you see the movie everything was warped the dead were freeling moving into the land of the living and coming back indeffinaly other places were frozen in crystal like there version of heaven

If EVERYTHING was warped, how did he lose? Reussurection is something Sephiroth can do, I guess he’s omnipotent too. When Janemba destroys a multiverse, or as Ultimecia did, absorb time, then he’s on their level.

#109
30 Apr 2008 12:27 pm
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Buster Sword wrote:
how would he not be did you see the movie everything was warped the dead were freeling moving into the land of the living and coming back indeffinaly other places were frozen in crystal like there version of heaven

If EVERYTHING was warped, how did he lose? Reussurection is something Sephiroth can do, I guess he’s omnipotent too. When Janemba destroys a multiverse, or as Ultimecia did, absorb time, then he’s on their level.


did i say he was omnipotent no. Nothing i said should had led you to believe that. And look who Ultimecia was beat by i mean really i beat that game i litteraly killed Ultimecia with 3 moves. And jambella warped everything you really need to rewatch the movie your trying to deniy something that can easily be watched on youtube. And so what sethroth can reserect this shows that you did not read what i said. I said that reality was warped and the dead was able to go to the land of the liveing freely indefintaly. You really need to rewatch the movie

#110
30 Apr 2008 12:38 pm
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did i say he was omnipotent no. Nothing i said should had led you to believe that. And look who Ultimecia was beat by i mean really i beat that game i litteraly killed Ultimecia with 3 moves. And jambella warped everything you really need to rewatch the movie your trying to deniy something that can easily be watched on youtube. And so what sethroth can reserect this shows that you did not read what i said. I said that reality was warped and the dead was able to go to the land of the liveing freely indefintaly. You really need to rewatch the movie

Mr Mxy is omnipotent, pretty much so is Ultimecia. Then do not compare Janemba to them then if you aren’t saying he’s omnipotent. You are using game mechanics to say Ultimecia is lame? LMAO I’m not denying anything at all, you are trying to compare Janemba to those guys, I say 'wrong' I’m not denying everything. If the dead go to the land of the living he brought them back to life. They are the living dead. Ultimecia turns fiction into fact. And you already said he isn’t omnipotent, so you’ve already ended the discussion.

#111
30 Apr 2008 01:28 pm
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Buster Sword wrote:
did i say he was omnipotent no. Nothing i said should had led you to believe that. And look who Ultimecia was beat by i mean really i beat that game i litteraly killed Ultimecia with 3 moves. And jambella warped everything you really need to rewatch the movie your trying to deniy something that can easily be watched on youtube. And so what sethroth can reserect this shows that you did not read what i said. I said that reality was warped and the dead was able to go to the land of the liveing freely indefintaly. You really need to rewatch the movie

Mr Mxy is omnipotent, pretty much so is Ultimecia. Then do not compare Janemba to them then if you aren’t saying he’s omnipotent. You are using game mechanics to say Ultimecia is lame? LMAO I’m not denying anything at all, you are trying to compare Janemba to those guys, I say 'wrong' I’m not denying everything. If the dead go to the land of the living he brought them back to life. They are the living dead. Ultimecia turns fiction into fact. And you already said he isn’t omnipotent, so you’ve already ended the discussion.


you do realize that what you said has nothing to do with what i was origanaly talking about dont you. And i cant use game mechanics with someone that is from a GAME WTF LMAO!!!!!!! Ultimecia is lame thats why i killed her in three moves mabe you are really bad at the game and could never kill her i would say that is a personal problem. The most Ultimecia did was warp a small area and time compress the individuals that were in that area. And im comparing the extent of what they warped and how sever Mr Mxy i dont know prob did more but you are always are trying to make the DBZ univers seem grealty underpowered and nothing compared to anything

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30 Apr 2008 01:36 pm
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Manchester Black wrote: Universal spirit bomb doesn’t necassarly mean its universe destroying.


Shenrons energy was reaching across the entire universe. In order to beat someone in DBZ with a ki blast

Your ki > Their ki

Since the spirit bomb was enough to kill him is means the spirit bomb had more than enough energy to reach across the entire universe

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#113
30 Apr 2008 01:49 pm
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you do realize that what you said has nothing to do with what i was origanaly talking about dont you.

You replied to my post, I wasn’t actually talking to you remember? I replied to Ultramans post.
And i cant use game mechanics with someone that is from a GAME WTF LMAO!!!!!!!

Are you the only debator the doesn’t know that NOBODY ever uses game mechanics unless stated? You know why nobody uses game mechanics? because since when does final fantasy characters wait to attack?
Ultimecia is lame thats why i killed her in three moves mabe you are really bad at the game and could never kill her i would say that is a personal problem.

What the fuck? When was I talking about the difficulty of Ultimecia? That has NOTHING to do with their power, this is why you fail, the WEAPONS are harder to fight than Sephiroth, but guess who’s the most powerful character in VII? SEPHIROTH, so again using game mechanics seriously fail.
The most Ultimecia did was warp a small area and time compress the individuals that were in that area.
Warping all time and existance, and reality warp Greiver into existance, manipualte many people, can go intangible, time travel. Comepletely wipes spells from characters, can lower ones energy to a significantly low degree, she’s immortal, she can’t die unless she passes on her power to someone else, I could go on, but whatever.
And im comparing the extent of what they warped and how sever Mr Mxy i dont know prob did more but you are always are trying to make the DBZ univers seem grealty underpowered and nothing compared to anything

Look who’s getting all personal now, just because I know some characters would simply destroy DBZ, don’t mean I have some vendetta against them, I know plenty of characters who can stomp my favourites, but do I care? Nope. You say I belittle DBZ, when there are people who say 'Goku can knock Galactus’s head off.' See what I mean?

#114
30 Apr 2008 02:37 pm
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Buster Sword wrote:
you do realize that what you said has nothing to do with what i was origanaly talking about dont you.

You replied to my post, I wasn’t actually talking to you remember? I replied to Ultramans post.
And i cant use game mechanics with someone that is from a GAME WTF LMAO!!!!!!!

Are you the only debator the doesn’t know that NOBODY ever uses game mechanics unless stated? You know why nobody uses game mechanics? because since when does final fantasy characters wait to attack?
Ultimecia is lame thats why i killed her in three moves mabe you are really bad at the game and could never kill her i would say that is a personal problem.

What the fuck? When was I talking about the difficulty of Ultimecia? That has NOTHING to do with their power, this is why you fail, the WEAPONS are harder to fight than Sephiroth, but guess who’s the most powerful character in VII? SEPHIROTH, so again using game mechanics seriously fail.
The most Ultimecia did was warp a small area and time compress the individuals that were in that area.
Warping all time and existance, and reality warp Greiver into existance, manipualte many people, can go intangible, time travel. Comepletely wipes spells from characters, can lower ones energy to a significantly low degree, she’s immortal, she can’t die unless she passes on her power to someone else, I could go on, but whatever.
And im comparing the extent of what they warped and how sever Mr Mxy i dont know prob did more but you are always are trying to make the DBZ univers seem grealty underpowered and nothing compared to anything

Look who’s getting all personal now, just because I know some characters would simply destroy DBZ, don’t mean I have some vendetta against them, I know plenty of characters who can stomp my favourites, but do I care? Nope. You say I belittle DBZ, when there are people who say 'Goku can knock Galactus’s head off.' See what I mean?



i dont see why i would not ues the game to reffer to what ultimeca did, what was done in the game is what ultimeca did and is what ultimeca can do and it was not that impressive. If they made ultimeca that strong they would have done what they did in 7 made a almost equaly strong main char. What Jammela did was way worse it affected everythign everywhere. But i see what you mean on the people saying that Goku can kill Gulactus wich is deffenetly not true.

#115
30 Apr 2008 02:46 pm
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i dont see why i would not ues the game to reffer to what ultimeca did, what was done in the game is what ultimeca did and is what ultimeca can do and it was not that impressive.

No, you were using how difficult she was to say how crap you think she is, that is different. Yup it’s not impressive to push all time and space to one point.

If they made ultimeca that strong they would have done what they did in 7 made a almost equaly strong main char.

Ultimecia isn’t a physical brawler like Cloud. She uses powers not fighting skills.

What Jammela did was way worse it affected everythign everywhere. But i see what you mean on the people saying that Goku can kill Gulactus wich is deffenetly not true.


Actually Ultimecia was pushing all time and space into one point, and that’s just her spell.
But i see what you mean on the people saying that Goku can kill Gulactus wich is deffenetly not true.

Thank you for understanding dude, now you know why Manchester Black is gonna have a stroke before he hits 30 xD

#116
30 Apr 2008 02:48 pm
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Invaderzym wrote:
Shenrons energy was reaching across the entire universe. In order to beat someone in DBZ with a ki blast

Your ki > Their ki

Since the spirit bomb was enough to kill him is means the spirit bomb had more than enough energy to reach across the entire universe

So reach=/=power now?Also Imperiex had the big bang which created the universe yet you question his ability to destroy it?

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#117
01 May 2008 12:17 am
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Manchester Black wrote:
Ultraman wrote:
That first scan was idiotic. Was there a point?

No not really.I just wanted to post it.

Ultraman wrote:
Ok he can move a planet with his breath. What the hell is a boomtube and why should I care?

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boomtube[/url]

Ultraman wrote:
Superman didn’t get hit by the actual supernova only the shockwave.

No he took the fullsupernova.

Ultraman wrote:
Leaving creation and breaking the time barrier are universe mechanics. Unless an actual speed is given, or you got the exact speed required to do the feet it’s not that impressive.

Dude do you have any idea how impressive it is to break the time barrier?Exactly.I’m sorry moving so fast you almost destroyed the universe is more impressive than anything in DBZ.

Ultraman wrote:
Goku could travel across dimensions and the universe too. And ok he can tow some planets. Still doesn’t tell me he can take a universe destroying blast

Goku can’t tow planets and Goku travels the universe through a teleporting technique.Since no one can throw a universe buster I don’t have to provide scans.



I don’t suppose tou could have just told me? I’ll have to read thsi later. No. Superman’s what? 6’3? 6’4? Unless that star was only 7 feet he was very VERY far away from it and got hit with the shock wave and not the actual explosion. If you stand 10 feet away from a car when it explodes it’s gonna knock you down but you’ll be ok. If you’re inside the same car or even an inch away it’s gonna be a different story. Do all fantasy univreses have a time barrier? Do all of them have a way to leave creation? No. It’s something we’ve only seen in DC and Marvel. Do you know how fast one has to go to break the time barrier or leave creation? No. It’s not like it’s a planet that pretty much all fantasy universes have. Universe machanic. Maybe he can’t but he can blow them up with ease and that’s actually better. Does it matter? He still does it. Zym said it already, Omega had the energy to destrory the universe. 2 BBK was enough to destroy that energy

#118
01 May 2008 12:24 am
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Manchester Black wrote:
Invaderzym wrote:
Shenrons energy was reaching across the entire universe. In order to beat someone in DBZ with a ki blast

Your ki > Their ki

Since the spirit bomb was enough to kill him is means the spirit bomb had more than enough energy to reach across the entire universe

So reach=/=power now?Also Imperiex had the big bang which created the universe yet you question his ability to destroy it?


It’s reach + power. Omega shenon is the fourth strongest character in all of dragon ball. Considering that Vegeta in the beginning of the series could bust planets without even trying and cooler can destroy stars, cell can destroy solar systems, and Broly and buu can destroy galaxies, and Omega in much MUCH stronger than them, his energy is going to destroy anything that gets in it’s way. Since it reaches across the entire universe that means that it’s going to full the universe with ki that can destroy anything in the universe which would destroy the universe. Since the BBK was able to kill him it’s unvierse busting too

#119
01 May 2008 01:02 am
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Prime why the bastard doesn’t die while goku dies every season

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#120
01 May 2008 02:44 am
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Do all fantasy univreses have a time barrier? Do all of them have a way to leave creation? No. It’s something we’ve only seen in DC and Marvel. Do you know how fast one has to go to break the time barrier or leave creation? No. It’s not like it’s a planet that pretty much all fantasy universes have. Universe machanic.

I guess non of the DBZ attacks would work on Superman then as they are from different universes.
cell can destroy solar systems

LOLZ where’s your proof?
Since it reaches across the entire universe that means that it’s going to full the universe with ki that can destroy anything in the universe which would destroy the universe.

So why doesn’t Imperiex’s big bang power stretch aross the universe? Or why doesn’t the Silver Surfers big crunch stretch aross the universe? Those two are both universe busters. The suns heat reaches our earth from light minutes away, I guess the suns heat would blow up the earth for no apparant reason.

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