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18 Sep 2007 11:41 am
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I don’t think so, I mean, science is made by logic and proof while, religion, is made by mystical belief and where logic can’t fit at all

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BTW tell us if ur a “believer” or a man of logic or woman

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18 Sep 2007 01:44 pm
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zeta_evolved wrote: I don’t think so, I mean, science is made by logic and proof while, religion, is made by mystical belief and where logic can’t fit at all

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BTW tell us if ur a “believer” or a man of logic or woman
Cause believers can’t be men and women of logic? My bad. I guess I should stop going to college, taking physics and learning to write in C++ cause I’m not a man of “logic”. Thank you for your insight my friend, you show a clear understanding of all people of faith and should be allowed the opportunity to judge freely with broad demeaning terms.

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18 Sep 2007 02:59 pm
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No, religion and science will never go together. Not as long as there are religious beliefs that will go against science. Religion shouldn’t be trying to play in the realm of science.

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18 Sep 2007 03:58 pm
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Of course not. Cause as science continues to diminish and put down old religious theories there is no way that most of those old religions can last.

As I like to say, people aren’t the same gullable idiots they use to be, they are now gullable idiots with media.

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18 Sep 2007 06:48 pm
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clearly

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Dogbert said the deepest thing ever.
“It is all a part of the big illusion we perpetuate upon ourselves and which is in turn perpetuated upon us. When we believe we engage the illusion, when we stop believing we shatter the illusion and ourselves in the process because we are part of it."
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18 Sep 2007 07:56 pm
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I say yes.

As long as you aren’t some kind of fundamentalist, then yes.

There are ways for one to intertwine current scientific knowledge into theistic beliefs. I’ve done so myself. I’ve basically come up with my own beliefs BASED ON Christianity and the Bible.

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18 Sep 2007 09:24 pm
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for those who say totally yes
not u maggot

if u consider your self a man of science or woman
u will have to make a choice
to believe that life was created by god
or to follow the scientific way
u can’t be both

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18 Sep 2007 09:25 pm
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Science will be able to go as far as saying that everything in religion is false aside on how the universe was created. Otherwise most everything else can be proven scientifically. So I guess if people wanted to be diest that would work. But the whole other thing man science eventually will be able to knock all this down. Well don’t know if people will believe it but yea it will.

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18 Sep 2007 09:26 pm
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Maggot Face wrote: I say yes.

As long as you aren’t some kind of fundamentalist, then yes.

There are ways for one to intertwine current scientific knowledge into theistic beliefs. I’ve done so myself. I’ve basically come up with my own beliefs BASED ON Christianity and the Bible.


Ditto. I think it’s proof that they can coexist, if given enough leniency.

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18 Sep 2007 09:26 pm
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Rejection of evolution science isnt a rejection of all science. In all honesty, coming from an atheist, there isnt proof that god does not exist.

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18 Sep 2007 09:38 pm
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fuckyfuckerfuckingmcfuckfuck69 wrote: Rejection of evolution science isnt a rejection of all science. In all honesty, coming from an atheist, there isnt proof that god does not exist.


Additionally, theistic belief doesn’t mean rejection of the Theory of Evolution. I don’t reject it.

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18 Sep 2007 09:49 pm
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fuckyfuckerfuckingmcfuckfuck69 wrote: Rejection of evolution science isnt a rejection of all science. In all honesty, coming from an atheist, there isnt proof that god does not exist.



but there’s no proof he exists
I mean Jesus did not leave a clear trail neither did Mohammed
or Abraham of their existance
btw
did any of u guys watched CNN’s
God’s Warriors
I loved that show

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18 Sep 2007 11:07 pm
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I don’t understand how holding two of every single animal on a ship for 40 days and 40 nights is logical. That means that Noahs ark would have had to hold about at LEAST 5,000 thousand species of animals, with enough fresh water and food to last them 40 days and 40 nights.


That is quite illogical.

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18 Sep 2007 11:08 pm
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The probability of god existing is very thin. Think of him as the ultimate Boeing 747.

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18 Sep 2007 11:10 pm
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ramunematt wrote: The probability of god existing is very thin. Think of him as the ultimate Boeing 747.



yep

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18 Sep 2007 11:11 pm
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the117gamer wrote: I don’t understand how holding two of every single animal on a ship for 40 days and 40 nights is logical. That means that Noahs ark would have had to hold about at LEAST 5,000 thousand species of animals, with enough fresh water and food to last them 40 days and 40 nights.


That is quite illogical.


Haha, 1115 illogical absurdities when you look at Skeptic’s Annotated Bible.

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18 Sep 2007 11:27 pm
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I went into the whole logic thing previously. Matt disregarded it because I made a point against his argument.

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18 Sep 2007 11:54 pm
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I think the problem with this question is that it is inherently based on a few assumptions:
All peoples of the same faith follow and believe the same things
All peoples of “no faith” follow and believe the same things.


But we know that’s just not true. People choose to follow their religion in a way that meets their spiritually and logical needs.
Not every Christian believes literally in the Noah’s ark story.
Not every scientist believes in evolution.


Albert Einstein is a good example of science and religion mixing together if only because everybody knows who he is;
Einstein was very much a believer in God; but I doubt anyone can say he didn’t contribute a great deal to science.

I’ve just started reading a book by the Dalai Lama entitled: The Universe in a Single Atom...the convergence of science and spirituality.



I do see the need for separation though. Given that religion is so personal and not held to empirical evidence, I don’t think it’s a good idea for spirituality to try and make scientific “truths”.


But can they co-exist? Yes: they have, do, and probably will for a long time.

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18 Sep 2007 11:57 pm
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I believe they can coexist together. The reason they don’t is because of the extremist FROM BOTH SIDES.

I myself believe in both science and religion. I combine the two in order to gain a better understanding of the universe around me.

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19 Sep 2007 02:22 am
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zeta_evolved wrote: for those who say totally yes
not u maggot

if u consider your self a man of science or woman
u will have to make a choice
to believe that life was created by god
or to follow the scientific way
u can’t be both
Define the “scientific way”, because if you really want to be critical the scientific way is testing theories under various conditions using the scientific formula, and using this method to discover things about the universe.

I think by Scientific Way you are talking about blanket belief in all broad scientific idea’s, which in a way is a religion unto itself. I’m sorry if I’m a little bit skeptical of Evolution, but if you dig deep, if you actually think about it for a nanosecond before blindly accepting it, you will realize there are as many holes and flaws as there are in religion. So I’m sorry if I disagree with some of your beliefs, but that in no way means you can tell me I am not a man of science.

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