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30 Sep 2007 02:41 am
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sure he can! if he can believe that jesus walked on water why not foreverlasting life!

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ramunematt wrote:
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Zucas wrote:
bugsbunny wrote: ”....The creation of Adam was the beginning..." - Jesus.

Alright big bang is completley false. Come on people whats more believable: The earth came 4 1/2 billion years ago from rocks? or 6000 years ago God made the earth and all thats in it?

If the big bang theory was true, then why isnt our body made of rock? Hmm? Why do women have intense labor pains when giving birth? because God cursed them from eating from the tree in the middle of the garden of Eve.

Why is there death? "....by sin came death..." - Jesus. Man didnt die until Adam sinned. Because there is sin in the world there is death.

Seriously, me believing we came from a rock is complete silly and obviously wrong. Do you see rocks today making dogs? Do you see a rock produce a human? Of course not.

Does anyone know where Man came from? It started with God, He made Adam in the garden of Eden, then made him fall into a deep sleep and took a rib out and made a partner, Adam called it “woman” for she was made from a man.

Big bang IMO = false.


It’s entirely impossible for the earth to be 6000 years ago. We have fossils that can be carbon dated and all that to way before then. I mean seriously it’s a physical impossibility for the earth to only be 6000 years old.

The only thing you do have going for you though is that their is really no scientific explanation as to why humans die. Do to their anaotmy and what not humans should be able to liver forever, or at least a much longer time than we are now.



exactly there is no scientific explanation. But there is a biblical reason.

Proof that scince and religion dont co-exist.


Death is the end of biological function, it’s that simple. Our bodies are far from perfect and there are so many aspects of the world and other life that threatens us. If life did last forever we wouldn’t even be here because natural selection wouldn’t be able to take place if there wasn’t death. You can’t honestly believe that the human body would be able to last forever.


it could, you just have to BELIEVE

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01 Oct 2007 03:08 pm
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Belief isn’t something you can just choose. For one, you need evidence.

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01 Oct 2007 05:23 pm
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all right then, find me some evidence that there was a big bang.

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01 Oct 2007 07:44 pm
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bugsbunny wrote: all right then, find me some evidence that there was a big bang.


Well find me some evidence that there is a little man in the sky that watches everything you do and if you do something wrong he’ll send you into the fiery bowels of hell for all eternity of suffering and punishment... but he loves you.

Just so I don’t get in trouble from the Zeitgeist movie.

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01 Oct 2007 08:53 pm
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bugsbunny wrote: all right then, find me some evidence that there was a big bang.


Evidence for the Big Bang

As you can see, there is much more evidence to support the big bang than most people realize.

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01 Oct 2007 08:55 pm
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And Zucas, that was George Carlin.



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Zucas wrote:
bugsbunny wrote: all right then, find me some evidence that there was a big bang.


Well find me some evidence that there is a little man in the sky that watches everything you do and if you do something wrong he’ll send you into the fiery bowels of hell for all eternity of suffering and punishment... but he loves you.

Just so I don’t get in trouble from the Zeitgeist movie.



Evidence = Bible. Read it thoroughly and you will understand.

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01 Oct 2007 09:13 pm
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Scripture does not qualify as legit evidence.

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bugsbunny wrote:
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bugsbunny wrote: all right then, find me some evidence that there was a big bang.


Well find me some evidence that there is a little man in the sky that watches everything you do and if you do something wrong he’ll send you into the fiery bowels of hell for all eternity of suffering and punishment... but he loves you.

Just so I don’t get in trouble from the Zeitgeist movie.



Evidence = Bible. Read it thoroughly and you will understand.


Faith doesn’t equal fact. Faith equals hope.

Faith can not be used as reasoning or factual evidence as it is none of those.

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ramunematt wrote: Scripture does not qualify as legit evidence.



yes it does, what do you think is it science textbooks? evolution “evidence"

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03 Oct 2007 04:00 am
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u dont need evidence to believe. “legit” or not.

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bugsbunny wrote:
ramunematt wrote: Scripture does not qualify as legit evidence.



yes it does, what do you think is it science textbooks? evolution “evidence”


Yeah exacpt those things can be tested and proven, but you can’t turn water into wine with magic, and a book that can be tested and shown to be factual is not the same as a book that can’t be tested because 'God works in meystirous way'... you get what I’m saying? It’s like saying the earth is flat because god told you and writing it down and saying your written word is just as valid as NASA reports.

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bugsbunny wrote:
ramunematt wrote: Scripture does not qualify as legit evidence.



yes it does, what do you think is it science textbooks? evolution “evidence”


If scripture qualifies as legit evidence, then what about the holy books of the hundreds of other religions?

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ramunematt wrote:
bugsbunny wrote:
ramunematt wrote: Scripture does not qualify as legit evidence.



yes it does, what do you think is it science textbooks? evolution “evidence”


If scripture qualifies as legit evidence, then what about the holy books of the hundreds of other religions?


well everything that was in the Bible happens today. the Bible is absolutley true to its word, why do you think there are 7 days in a week? because it took God 6 days to make the earth and on the 7th he rested.

A lot of stores/restaurants are closed on sundays because God rested on the 7th day.

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bugsbunny wrote:
ramunematt wrote: Scripture does not qualify as legit evidence.



yes it does, what do you think is it science textbooks? evolution “evidence”


it is u guys, the bible can be accurate. Wat happens it’s that it uses to much methaphors but I tells the truth sometimes like, the exodus it was real, geology and archeology tell the same story as the bible about the exodus (ancient hebrews = Hiksus)

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bugsbunny wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
bugsbunny wrote:
ramunematt wrote: Scripture does not qualify as legit evidence.



yes it does, what do you think is it science textbooks? evolution “evidence”


If scripture qualifies as legit evidence, then what about the holy books of the hundreds of other religions?


well everything that was in the Bible happens today. the Bible is absolutley true to its word, why do you think there are 7 days in a week? because it took God 6 days to make the earth and on the 7th he rested.

A lot of stores/restaurants are closed on sundays because God rested on the 7th day.


Sure, just like the Bible says the Earth is flat and is the center of the universe.

The Bible was written WAAAAY after we decided there were seven days in one week. There is (non-religion) scripture that predates the Bible by thousands of years that says there are seven days in a week, 12 months in a year, Summer and Winter Solstice, etc.

The reason a lot of stores and restaurants are closed on Sunday is because of fundamentalists imposing their religion on everyone. These are Blue Laws that prevent you from doing something just because of someone else’s religious beliefs.

The Bible is not true to it’s word. Most of the stories/statements in the Bible are absurd and redundant, and have no evidence to back them up. If you can provide me with evidence that any of the stories in the Bible are true without using the Bible itself, then by all means present them.

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ramunematt wrote:
bugsbunny wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
bugsbunny wrote:
ramunematt wrote: Scripture does not qualify as legit evidence.



yes it does, what do you think is it science textbooks? evolution “evidence”


If scripture qualifies as legit evidence, then what about the holy books of the hundreds of other religions?


well everything that was in the Bible happens today. the Bible is absolutley true to its word, why do you think there are 7 days in a week? because it took God 6 days to make the earth and on the 7th he rested.

A lot of stores/restaurants are closed on sundays because God rested on the 7th day.


Sure, just like the Bible says the Earth is flat and is the center of the universe.

The Bible was written WAAAAY after we decided there were seven days in one week. There is (non-religion) scripture that predates the Bible by thousands of years that says there are seven days in a week, 12 months in a year, Summer and Winter Solstice, etc.

The reason a lot of stores and restaurants are closed on Sunday is because of fundamentalists imposing their religion on everyone. These are Blue Laws that prevent you from doing something just because of someone else’s religious beliefs.

The Bible is not true to it’s word. Most of the stories/statements in the Bible are absurd and redundant, and have no evidence to back them up. If you can provide me with evidence that any of the stories in the Bible are true without using the Bible itself, then by all means present them.

How can you deal with believing that when you die, you stop existing? I don’t understand how you can believe that without going completely nuts.

The Bible doesn’t say the earth is flat. And it doesn’t say its the center of the universe.

What are you doing in the religion section anyway? You’re an atheist? I thought that was pretty clever...

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