| 03 Oct 2007 08:36 pm |
Agent of Chaos Rep: 46  Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 38,432 OFFLINE | Well once again very straightforward. There is a right answer to this but I’m sure many will be out there trying to put the moral and societal issues out there. So debate all sides.
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| 03 Oct 2007 08:37 pm |
Agent of Chaos Rep: 46Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 38,432 OFFLINE | My answer, being the right one, is yes its very constitutional. The first amendment clearly states freedom of religion drawing the line between church and state. Meaning this can’t be considered unconstitutional becuase of that seperation of church and state.
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| 04 Oct 2007 06:49 am |
Dr. Matt Rep: 46 Joined: 07 Jul 2006 Posts: 14,433 OFFLINE | Zucas you ol' dog you! You know people are going to avoid this topic right? haha
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| 04 Oct 2007 09:22 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 3 Joined: 21 Feb 2007 Posts: 1,234 OFFLINE | yes it is constitutional
but if you burn it like the kkk did, its arson, so i guess its illegal in that case?
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| 04 Oct 2007 04:05 pm |
Agent of Chaos Rep: 46Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 38,432 OFFLINE | ramunematt wrote:
Zucas you ol' dog you! You know people are going to avoid this topic right? haha
Hey might as well. There’s a right answer. I mean its debateable on the interpretation of course but I want to see if people can literally answer this the way its supposed to be answered.
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| 04 Oct 2007 05:41 pm |
Live like an angel, die like a devil Rep: 20 Joined: 01 Apr 2007 Posts: 12,757 OFFLINE | Yeah, but kind of a dick thing to do.
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| 04 Oct 2007 06:35 pm |
Agent of Chaos Rep: 46Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 38,432 OFFLINE | Well its not like its causing physical harm to anyone so could be worse.
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| 04 Oct 2007 06:50 pm |
Live like an angel, die like a devil Rep: 20Joined: 01 Apr 2007 Posts: 12,757 OFFLINE | Zucas wrote:
Well its not like its causing physical harm to anyone so could be worse.
Sill, dick thing to do.
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| 04 Oct 2007 10:49 pm |
Agent of Chaos Rep: 46Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 38,432 OFFLINE | of course
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| 05 Oct 2007 03:36 am |
Regular Rep: 0  Joined: 02 Sep 2006 Posts: 833 OFFLINE | is it really arson if u burn it like the kkk did?
sure, nothings wrong with burning a cross, im not the one wasting gas.
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| 05 Oct 2007 05:49 pm |
Nyarlathotep Rep: 9 Joined: 26 Jun 2005 Posts: 6,914 OFFLINE | I’m surprised the government doesn’t encourage it.
Zucas - I fail to see where in the Constitution it says that religion cannot be in the government, and otherwise.
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| 05 Oct 2007 05:50 pm |
Regular Rep: 0 Joined: 18 Sep 2007 Posts: 353 OFFLINE | POW wrote:
is it really arson if u burn it like the kkk did?
sure, nothings wrong with burning a cross, im not the one wasting gas.
Arson, called fireraising in Scots law, is the crime of setting a fire for an unlawful or improper purpose. The criminal damage of property in English law has been consolidated into a single offence in the Criminal Damage Act 1971 although the use of the word has been retained.
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| 05 Oct 2007 05:52 pm |
Agent of Chaos Rep: 46Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 38,432 OFFLINE | ChaosSpartan wrote:
I’m surprised the government doesn’t encourage it.
Zucas - I fail to see where in the Constitution it says that religion cannot be in the government, and otherwise.
First Amendment.
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| 05 Oct 2007 05:54 pm |
Nyarlathotep Rep: 9Joined: 26 Jun 2005 Posts: 6,914 OFFLINE | Zucas wrote:
ChaosSpartan wrote:
I’m surprised the government doesn’t encourage it.
Zucas - I fail to see where in the Constitution it says that religion cannot be in the government, and otherwise.
First Amendment.
Since when?
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| 05 Oct 2007 06:00 pm |
Nyarlathotep Rep: 9Joined: 26 Jun 2005 Posts: 6,914 OFFLINE | Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Ok, I see.
Notice the underlined section. As I understand it, teachers can be fired for teaching (or in any way promoting) religion. Or speaking about religion at school. Or having a Bible at school.
BTW, Darwinism has become a religion. It is based on faith, and that makes it a religion.
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| 05 Oct 2007 06:21 pm |
Live like an angel, die like a devil Rep: 20Joined: 01 Apr 2007 Posts: 12,757 OFFLINE | I agree, darwinism is now a religion. I accept that evoltion is still the most likely cause of all this we have, I dont worship the prick that said it.
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| 05 Oct 2007 06:25 pm |
Nyarlathotep Rep: 9Joined: 26 Jun 2005 Posts: 6,914 OFFLINE | fuckyfuckerfuckingmcfuckfuck69 wrote:
I agree, darwinism is now a religion. I accept that evoltion is still the most likely cause of all this we have, I dont worship the prick that said it.
I just couldn’t believe that everything is because of an accident. So, I’m a Christian. Because its the religion that makes sense.
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| 05 Oct 2007 06:29 pm |
Live like an angel, die like a devil Rep: 20Joined: 01 Apr 2007 Posts: 12,757 OFFLINE | ChaosSpartan wrote:
fuckyfuckerfuckingmcfuckfuck69 wrote:
I agree, darwinism is now a religion. I accept that evoltion is still the most likely cause of all this we have, I dont worship the prick that said it.
I just couldn’t believe that everything is because of an accident. So, I’m a Christian. Because its the religion that makes sense.
To you. Makes sense to you. I was raised catholic(not really christian, I know) and it never made one bit of sense to me. The bible shouldnt be taken literal, but as a series of allegories to help you live your life. And Im not denying there could be a god. There is no proof either way whether he/she/it exists. And evolution could be a how, not a why.
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| 05 Oct 2007 06:37 pm |
Nyarlathotep Rep: 9Joined: 26 Jun 2005 Posts: 6,914 OFFLINE | My most recent revelation about the Bible is that the Flood was regional(holy whack, who knew!). Apparantly Israel only had one word for “land” “earth” and “country”. Everything fits scientifically if you make that minor adjustment. And I do believe everything in the Bible is supported by good science. I’m not tryig to start an argument BTW. I’m just thinking out loud.
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| 05 Oct 2007 06:40 pm |
Live like an angel, die like a devil Rep: 20Joined: 01 Apr 2007 Posts: 12,757 OFFLINE | ChaosSpartan wrote:
My most recent revelation about the Bible is that the Flood was regional(holy whack, who knew!). Apparantly Israel only had one word for “land” “earth” and “country”. Everything fits scientifically if you make that minor adjustment. And I do believe everything in the Bible is supported by good science. I’m not tryig to start an argument BTW. I’m just thinking out loud.
Oh, the flood probably happened. That I wont deny. I could honestly care less about religion. Just puts me sour mood.
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