Evolution is not a faith, it’s science. Science is about cold, hard facts, not belief.
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You may call me a fool but all I’m saying is the truth...
You may go to The Atlas of Creations or I’ll show you that...
If you think evolutions was proven why dont you show me...
Art is explosion and should be eternal and beauty...
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“Great new ideas usually come from very small teams... don’t give up so easily." — John Kaster —
Gasparin wrote:
There is not concrete prove we have evolve, we have mutate that is diferent, if not why monkeys are still monkeys, and humans still humans?
It has nothing to do with being theist, but Evolution is still not 100% prove.
You fundamentally misundestand evolution.
In a nutshell, it goes as such;
A species exists. A member of that species develops a mutation. This mutation allows it to do something better, and so it survives and passes on it’s genes. This does not necessarily mean that the species it once was (the un-mutated type) dies out. Evolution is a 'branching out', if you will. Hence, when we evolved from monkeys, all the monkeys didn’t instantly die out. We went our way, they went theirs.
A species exists. A member of that species develops a mutation. This mutation allows it to do something better, and so it survives and passes on it’s genes. This does not necessarily mean that the species it once was (the un-mutated type) dies out. Evolution is a 'branching out', if you will. Hence, when we evolved from monkeys, all the monkeys didn’t instantly die out. We went our way, they went theirs.
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You mean monkey...
Prove us about evolutions...
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“Great new ideas usually come from very small teams... don’t give up so easily." — John Kaster —
However, science is quite often about probability. And the overwhelming amount of evidence gives us an extremely high probability that evolution is real.
For one thing, there’s a real-time, observable example in African Elephants.
That, and it’s pretty bloody obvious that creationism is complete and utter bullshit, with not a single shred of scientific basis.
Well i don´t blame you for think that about creation, obviously the old books about creation are basically tales pass from generations, leyends until the times when human can write it.
True is that the “certainty” about evoulution is more humanly logical yet it can not be state as fact, because what the species in this planets have more show like elephants, cocrodiles and sharks for example is mutation, the man also is less hairy than before, and week due comodities has “mutate” mostly to a weaker and softer mamal. The skeletons that will prove that the man evolve from ape alike, does not exist, exist the Neanderthal man, the australopithecine man, the Cro magnon man, more ape than human and the pithecantropus erectus, more human than ape, the Australopithecus recently found could be that conexion but it have being found not certainty, because many diferent fossils have being found in diferent places, not of them complete, leaving still open the debate so until the Transitional fossil is not found, the evolution theory is just that, a theory.
Totalitus wrote:
So, since there isn’t 100% proof for evolution...“poof and all species came into existance”, which has nothing backing it, makes more sense. lol
No, and the church is also accepting the evolution idea for your information, but evolution
is part of the creation, nobody say puff the Earth and all life in it apear. lol
This is the point, evolution alone is not enough prove to denie the existence of a Superior being as a creator, and creation of life in Earth is still something that is a mystery, The only thing Science prove with evolution is that Adam and Eva are old books that are not to be take literally and are mostly legends, but that not prove that God exist or not.
What I really don’t get about Creationists is the way they think. They somehow manage to be so blinded by their faith that they set such high standards for evolution, yet virtually no standards for creationism. They somehow come to the conclusion that creationism is the alternative to evolution, even though there is no evidence to suggest creationism is even remotely true. Whenever a new piece of evidence supporting evolution is found they are so quick to deny it without even observing it for themselves because anything that goes against creationism just has to be flawed in some way. They are always demanding answers to holes that are in the theory of evolution, and if we cannot yet explain them from our current knowledge they automatically decree that evolution is false. When scientists demand answers about the holes of creationism, such as why haven’t we found what physical evidence we would expect to find if a great flood really happened, they try to weasel their way out of it. By the same high standards that creationists are setting towards evolution and the big bang, then logically creationism is less true than evolution or the big bang could ever be. Someone once said, “you cannot awaken those who are pretending to be asleep”. This is the perfect quote to explain why I have failed to convince people of evolution. I am trying to awaken those who do not want to be awakened. I am trying to enlighten those who do not want enlightenment. I don’t know if creationists know how illogical they’re being, but they don’t want to be awakened. How is it possible that someone could remain that ignorant? You just keep denying, denying, denying the evidence and you refuse to even look at it without first assuming that it must be wrong. Most creationists aren’t even that educated in evolution if at all. Evolutionists know what creationism is because it’s constantly being shoved down our throats by the Knights of Columbus and Evangelicals and such, but I know most creationists haven’t a clue of what evolution really is.
Totalitus wrote:
So, since there isn’t 100% proof for evolution...“poof and all species came into existance”, which has nothing backing it, makes more sense. lol
No, and the church is also accepting the evolution idea for your information, but evolution
is part of the creation, nobody say puff the Earth and all life in it apear. lol
This is the point, evolution alone is not enough prove to denie the existence of a Superior being as a creator, and creation of life in Earth is still something that is a mystery, The only thing Science prove with evolution is that Adam and Eva are old books that are not to be take literally and are mostly legends, but that not prove that God exist or not.
Well the burden of proof lies in the hands of whoever is making the claims. It’s not a scientists job to try and disprove god, it’s the theists job to try and prove him because they are the ones making the claims.
There are two parts to creationism. Evolution, specifically common descent(and that has the category of theory), tells us how life came to where it is, but it does not say why. If the question is whether evolution disproves the basic underlying theme of Genesis, that God created the world and the life in it, the answer is no. Evolution cannot say exactly why common descent chose the paths that it did.
If the question is whether evolution contradicts a literal interpretation of the first chapter of Genesis as an exact historical account, then it does. This is the main, and for the most part only, point of conflict between those who believe in evolution and creationists.
You ask for the prove of God existance, yeah It’s not a scientists job to try and disprove god, but your claims are trying to denie him.
Gasparin wrote:
There are two parts to creationism. Evolution, specifically common descent(and that has the category of theory), tells us how life came to where it is, but it does not say why. If the question is whether evolution disproves the basic underlying theme of Genesis, that God created the world and the life in it, the answer is no. Evolution cannot say exactly why common descent chose the paths that it did.
If the question is whether evolution contradicts a literal interpretation of the first chapter of Genesis as an exact historical account, then it does. This is the main, and for the most part only, point of conflict between those who believe in evolution and creationists.
You ask for the prove of God existance, yeah It’s not a scientists job to try and disprove god, but your claims are trying to denie him.
What makes you think there is a why in the first place? That’s just wishful thinking. Sure, we would all love to think we are all here for some divine purpose. But it’s nothing more than wishful thinking.
Gasparin wrote:
There are two parts to creationism. Evolution, specifically common descent(and that has the category of theory), tells us how life came to where it is, but it does not say why. If the question is whether evolution disproves the basic underlying theme of Genesis, that God created the world and the life in it, the answer is no. Evolution cannot say exactly why common descent chose the paths that it did.
If the question is whether evolution contradicts a literal interpretation of the first chapter of Genesis as an exact historical account, then it does. This is the main, and for the most part only, point of conflict between those who believe in evolution and creationists.
You ask for the prove of God existance, yeah It’s not a scientists job to try and disprove god, but your claims are trying to denie him.
What makes you think there is a why in the first place? That’s just wishful thinking. Sure, we would all love to think we are all here for some divine purpose. But it’s nothing more than wishful thinking.
And BTW, denying is not a claim in itself.
I just can answer you as a catholic, God prove of existence is Jesus and all his teachings and testimony about him.
The debate was about evolution and i answer about that.
Gasparin wrote:
There are two parts to creationism. Evolution, specifically common descent(and that has the category of theory), tells us how life came to where it is, but it does not say why. If the question is whether evolution disproves the basic underlying theme of Genesis, that God created the world and the life in it, the answer is no. Evolution cannot say exactly why common descent chose the paths that it did.
If the question is whether evolution contradicts a literal interpretation of the first chapter of Genesis as an exact historical account, then it does. This is the main, and for the most part only, point of conflict between those who believe in evolution and creationists.
You ask for the prove of God existance, yeah It’s not a scientists job to try and disprove god, but your claims are trying to denie him.
What makes you think there is a why in the first place? That’s just wishful thinking. Sure, we would all love to think we are all here for some divine purpose. But it’s nothing more than wishful thinking.
And BTW, denying is not a claim in itself.
I just can answer you as a catholic, God prove of existence is Jesus and all his teachings and testimony about him.
The debate was about evolution and i answer about that.
Proof of Jesus please?
For fuck’s sake, everyone - acknowledging evolution and accepting that there’s a God aren’t mutually exclusive things. You can do both.
And, people have a choice to believe in God or not. Fair enough. That, is a matter of faith. What you don’t have the right to do, is shove it down my throat.
Evolution on the other hand, is open to informed scientific debate. Much like Climate Change, or any other “unprovable” hypothesis. It’s not however, open to mindless, bible-swilling morons dismissing it completely, without a single shred of data in existence verifying their ridiculous arguement.
Jesus exist, there are concrete prove of his existence, you don´t have to get mad or swear, we can debate our points, i am not trying to convince you of nothing. My coments were made on evolution as a theory, and i just give my point of view
there are writings in diferents languages, the emperor constantine, the burning of Rome, etc, was cause in persucution of Cristians, was is not exact is the actual dates of his Birth and dead of jesus, but he and his teachings exist, his testimony are writing in evangelions (gospel), more than the four that the Catholic church considere in the bible, in many languages.
And, people have a choice to believe in God or not. Fair enough. That, is a matter of faith. What you don’t have the right to do, is shove it down my throat.
You do the same Calling bullshit of what other believe, like your signature said you want to be right. i just explain evolution as it is.
Gasparin wrote:
Jesus exist, there are concrete prove of his existence, you don´t have to get mad or swear, we can debate our points, i am not trying to convince you of nothing. My coments were made on evolution as a theory, and i just give my point of view
there are writings in diferents languages, the emperor constantine, the burning of Rome, etc, was cause in persucution of Cristians, was is not exact is the actual dates of his Birth and dead of jesus, but he and his teachings exist, his testimony are writing in evangelions (gospel), more than the four that the Catholic church considere in the bible, in many languages.
And, people have a choice to believe in God or not. Fair enough. That, is a matter of faith. What you don’t have the right to do, is shove it down my throat.
You do the same Calling bullshit of what other believe, like your signature said you want to be right. i just explain evolution as it is.
Sorry for the misunderstanding; the bulk of that post wasn’t aimed at you.
Jesus did exist, yes, but am I to believe he was the son of God? There’s only unprovable stories that say he is, so as far as I’m concerned, belief in him being the son of God is very much a matter of faith.
My sig just reflects how much of a cock I am, haha.
Gasparin wrote:
Jesus exist, there are concrete prove of his existence, you don´t have to get mad or swear, we can debate our points, i am not trying to convince you of nothing. My coments were made on evolution as a theory, and i just give my point of view
there are writings in diferents languages, the emperor constantine, the burning of Rome, etc, was cause in persucution of Cristians, was is not exact is the actual dates of his Birth and dead of jesus, but he and his teachings exist, his testimony are writing in evangelions (gospel), more than the four that the Catholic church considere in the bible, in many languages.
And, people have a choice to believe in God or not. Fair enough. That, is a matter of faith. What you don’t have the right to do, is shove it down my throat.
You do the same Calling bullshit of what other believe, like your signature said you want to be right. i just explain evolution as it is.
This is part 1 of a video series that refutes the “evidence” of Jesus outside of biblical sources. And in my sig there is a link to Zeitgeist The Movie. Part 1 of that movie is about Jesus, and shows that he is purely astrological.
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