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20 Oct 2007 02:29 am
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ramunematt wrote:
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ramunematt wrote: This poll is very vague. It doesn’t say how many scientists or if they’re even credible scientists. I know for a fact that the most credible scientists (Richard Dawkins, Stephen Hawking, Albert Einstein, etc.) are either atheists or don’t believe in a personal god. I wouldn’t be surprised if this poll was for America only.


well, i didnt make the article, if u find a more credible source saying the opposite, feel free to provide it.(einstein’s on our side, hehehe)


Einstein is not on your side. He did not believe in a personal god.


that does not make him an atheist.

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20 Oct 2007 02:50 pm
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But it doesn’t make him a theist either.

Einstein’s Criticisms of Religions: Einstein was Very Critical of Religion

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22 Oct 2007 01:02 pm
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it dosent matter any way! Hes dead and dust and can’t think a lick any more, his pethic human cancer brain is sitting in a jar in some lab that needs to be demoloshid to make way for more deserving forests any way. Fuck, stupid thiests,go back to beliveing your loved ones can still rmrmber anything! haha! worm food can’t think!

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Seriously, get spellcheck, I cant understand what you’re saying.

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science is its own religion
and atheism is just a very creative religion

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22 Oct 2007 11:05 pm
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How in the hell is science or atheism a religion?

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ramunematt wrote: How in the hell is science or atheism a religion?

Science isn’t, but atheism is.

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23 Oct 2007 06:55 am
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How in the hell is atheism a religion?

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ramunematt wrote: But it doesn’t make him a theist either.

Einstein’s Criticisms of Religions: Einstein was Very Critical of Religion


well then i guess hes agnostic?

criticizing religion doesnt make u an atheist.

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24 Oct 2007 08:07 pm
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Atheism is a religion by definition.

re·li·gion [ri-lij-uhn]
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1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.


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24 Oct 2007 08:44 pm
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POW wrote:
ramunematt wrote: But it doesn’t make him a theist either.

Einstein’s Criticisms of Religions: Einstein was Very Critical of Religion


well then i guess hes agnostic?

criticizing religion doesnt make u an atheist.


No, it doesn’t. Then again I never said that, did I?

Einstein was most likely either a deist or agnostic.

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ramunematt wrote:
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ramunematt wrote: But it doesn’t make him a theist either.

Einstein’s Criticisms of Religions: Einstein was Very Critical of Religion


well then i guess hes agnostic?

criticizing religion doesnt make u an atheist.


No, it doesn’t. Then again I never said that, did I?

Einstein was most likely either a deist or agnostic.


well, it seemed like u implied it. why else did u provide that link?

so hes not atheist or theist. a deist is pretty close to a theist, they believe in God but dont think he cares about us.

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22 Nov 2007 04:34 am
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not all...

Harun Yahya one of them

www.harunyahya.com

for more info...

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09 Dec 2007 11:36 pm
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no most are sciencetologist excuse me if I spell it wrong

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12 Dec 2007 08:12 pm
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ramunematt wrote: This poll is very vague. It doesn’t say how many scientists or if they’re even credible scientists. I know for a fact that the most credible scientists (Richard Dawkins, Stephen Hawking, Albert Einstein, etc.) are either atheists or don’t believe in a personal god. I wouldn’t be surprised if this poll was for America only.


ps albert einstein was jewish

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Believing in god is only for those who lack the will power or then knowledge that the bible is completly bs, and every other religon is too. Eg if you took a scientist 200 years ago who did not know how we came here or did not know how lighting work he would have no choice but to make up that someone cause such a act. All because he did not know about static eletricity or evolution.

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27 Dec 2007 10:18 pm
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Well I wouldn’t say all religions are BS. Religions that aren’t theistic, such as Buddhism, are actually quite fascinating to me. Their philosophies are very interesting.

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27 Dec 2007 10:27 pm
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matt, hate to break it to you, but science is a religion.

definition of religion:
a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs."

but, hey.

scientology....no...haha. scientology is just retarded. we can all agree on that one, right?

and, i agree with you on that, matt. buddhism is really interesting. i like it a lot.

gplex, try not to be that ignorant sounding. its really kinda sad. the same can be said about science, in many ways. science is the best possible explanation that we can get the most proof for. nothing less, nothing more. thats why its CONSTANTLY changing. hell, for all you know, one day science will prove God is real.

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27 Dec 2007 10:36 pm
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Kev, you can’t just take part of one definition of a religion and ignore the rest because it doesn’t fit the way you want it. When you loo0k at other definitions of a religion, they usually mention fundamentalism, rituals, dogmas, and above all; God. Sure, with what you just bolded from the definition you just posted you can say that science and religion may share a few characteristics, but not enough so for science to be considered an actual religion.

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ramunematt wrote: Kev, you can’t just take part of one definition of a religion and ignore the rest because it doesn’t fit the way you want it. When you loo0k at other definitions of a religion, they usually mention fundamentalism, rituals, dogmas, and above all; God. Sure, with what you just bolded from the definition you just posted you can say that science and religion may share a few characteristics, but not enough so for science to be considered an actual religion.

dude, look at the three letters after what i bolded. they are esp, meaning especially, meaning not always, meaning the part that i bolded stands alone. its not as much in the traditional sense, but i thought we all knew that. the fact is, when you get down to it, science is an explanation about why we are here, which is exactly what religion is at its core. lets take all the definitions given, shall we?

re·li·gion /rɪˈlɪdʒən/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ri-lij-uhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1.a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2.a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3.the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.
4.the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.
5.the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.
6.something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: to make a religion of fighting prejudice.
7.religions, Archaic. religious rites.
8.Archaic. strict faithfulness; devotion: a religion to one’s vow.

i win.

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