Probably the most shocking thing you’ll have to hear is that it was uncovered that General Mahhmoud Ahmed intstucted Omar Sheikh to wire transfer $100,000 to Mohammed Atta, the lead hijacker, before the attacks. Thuse he did.
Meaning that the funding of this attack, or at least funding the attackers would be the Pakistani government. Hell we have facts and we know this was done but what did the government do? Nothing. They did nothing and didn’t even investigate it further. Instead they deemed the funding of the 911 attacks of little importance. Let me say that again. The 911 Commission and subsequently US government deemed the FUNDING of the 911 attacks of little importance.
WHAT? How is that of little importance. If you fund a terrorist attack then that means you were the terrorists. So why didn’t the government go after them. Why are wars only being waged against Al Qaeda and subsequently Hussein and the Taliban when we have this piece of evidence. There is no excuse for this and really very suspicious. I think you are starting to see the numerious inconsistencies, lies, and overall irresponsibility surrounding the US government and the 911 attacks.
--- It’s not about money. It’s about sending a message. Everything burns.
Yes, there a lot of things suspicious about 9/11. If everything they said about 9/11 is true, I don’t see why just try and explain everything in a logical way.
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the21gamer wrote:
fuck that load of bullshit. i dont care if the enemy dies. not fighting back is stupid
Yea there is no reason to some of their secrecy, coverups, and flat out lies. If they no it was the terrorists then why do they have to be so damn secretive about it. People that are truthful don’t hide it. People that are lying do.
--- It’s not about money. It’s about sending a message. Everything burns.
U.S gov knew about this plan for a long time and i think they let it happen(or delayed the response so it would happen) so it gives reason(plus backing from other major countries) to invade the middle east.
The whole collapsing of the towers and building 7 is still a head scratcher and may be something of an inside plan of other people that is totally different than what everything thinks.
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Last edited 17 Nov 2007 03:32 pm by Hiroshama Nakasaki Is Back
Hiroshama Nakasaki Is Back wrote:
U.S gov knew about this plan for a long time and i think they let it happen(or delayed the response so it would happen) so it gives reason(plus backing from other major countries) to invade the middle east.
The whole collapsing of the towers and building 7 is still a head scratcher and may be something of an inside plan of other people that is totally different than what everything thinks.
Oh its very obvious we let it happen. Just like Pearl Harbor, which we also new at least a week in advance about. I don’t know if we are just slow to reacting or doing anything, or we purposely want these things to happen. But Pearl Harbor and 911 are one in alike in that they easily could have been prevented, unless of course the conspiracy is true for 911.
--- It’s not about money. It’s about sending a message. Everything burns.
Probably the most shocking thing you’ll have to hear is that it was uncovered that General Mahhmoud Ahmed intstucted Omar Sheikh to wire transfer $100,000 to Mohammed Atta, the lead hijacker, before the attacks. Thuse he did.
Meaning that the funding of this attack, or at least funding the attackers would be the Pakistani government. Hell we have facts and we know this was done but what did the government do? Nothing. They did nothing and didn’t even investigate it further. Instead they deemed the funding of the 911 attacks of little importance. Let me say that again. The 911 Commission and subsequently US government deemed the FUNDING of the 911 attacks of little importance.
WHAT? How is that of little importance. If you fund a terrorist attack then that means you were the terrorists. So why didn’t the government go after them. Why are wars only being waged against Al Qaeda and subsequently Hussein and the Taliban when we have this piece of evidence. There is no excuse for this and really very suspicious. I think you are starting to see the numerious inconsistencies, lies, and overall irresponsibility surrounding the US government and the 911 attacks.
Also, aren’t we in alliance with Pakistan? I’m pretty sure we are. If Pakistan are our allies and really did fund the terrorists then either:
1) Pakistan betrayed us
2) we indirectly yet intentionally funded the terrorists ourselves
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the21gamer wrote:
fuck that load of bullshit. i dont care if the enemy dies. not fighting back is stupid
Or we are fighting a war with the wrong people haha. Shouldn’t we be fighting Pakistan based on that evidence? But of course we aren’t going to fight them. They have to many valuable resources to us.
I don’t know if America is getting played or America is playing us haha. But I think its the latter of the 2.
--- It’s not about money. It’s about sending a message. Everything burns.
bAyBeE_ChRoNiC wrote:
The Taliban is winning, according to the experts, 80,0000 more soldiers are needed to get back in the game.
I wonder if Mr.President really wants to risk making that sort of commitment.
Yea just like we were losing the Vietnam war. We could have won this war, like Vietname, easily and swiftly, its just there were never any intentions to do so. Not to mention do people actually believe we went to those countries to just stop terrorists and help people. No there is gain to be grasped there and America will seize it. Control of the Middle East is the ultimate goal of all of this.
--- It’s not about money. It’s about sending a message. Everything burns.
did you guys watch te planes hit the buildings it was lik a poor Movie the plane sank into the building like it phased through it then it blew up totally unrealistic
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dd u guys know i was actually in NYC the day this happened? But i was at the Bronxe Zoo...but the thing is i actually left the Zoo about an hour b4 the towers fell...so i didn’t see anything/
Probably the most shocking thing you’ll have to hear is that it was uncovered that General Mahhmoud Ahmed intstucted Omar Sheikh to wire transfer $100,000 to Mohammed Atta, the lead hijacker, before the attacks. Thuse he did.
Meaning that the funding of this attack, or at least funding the attackers would be the Pakistani government. Hell we have facts and we know this was done but what did the government do? Nothing. They did nothing and didn’t even investigate it further. Instead they deemed the funding of the 911 attacks of little importance. Let me say that again. The 911 Commission and subsequently US government deemed the FUNDING of the 911 attacks of little importance.
WHAT? How is that of little importance. If you fund a terrorist attack then that means you were the terrorists. So why didn’t the government go after them. Why are wars only being waged against Al Qaeda and subsequently Hussein and the Taliban when we have this piece of evidence. There is no excuse for this and really very suspicious. I think you are starting to see the numerious inconsistencies, lies, and overall irresponsibility surrounding the US government and the 911 attacks.
Complete fallacy. There is no proof of this wired transaction. Also it would cost only a couple hundred bucks to buy the 12 box cutters not 100,000. Also if the money was payment in advance then that is also crap. All 12 knew it was a mission they were not going to walk away from.
Also we control Pakistan. Please read a newspaper and find out what is happening there now.
Also the mission in Iraq is only the beginning. It was meant to dethrone a dictator and create a Democratic foothold in the Muslim-Extremist ME.
Actually read the website’s facts and don’t just ignore it. Everything is explained.(minus the small stuff e.g. passport)
The towers were brought down because the debris weakened the steel’s resistance to fire. The fire did not melt the steel only weakened it.
Part of tower 2 knocked out the bottom part of tower 7 and caused fires that burned for 3+ hours.
Actually there is proof bro. I submitted it to you through a link in the post you got my quote from. I suggest you read entirely first. Otherwise my note is more credible than your opinion as I hae a source to back it up.
--- It’s not about money. It’s about sending a message. Everything burns.
Also Dupontx, how many times in history has a fire weakened the metal of a steel building to the point of its collapse. I’ll tell ya. 3. The North Tower, South Tower, and WTC 7. Only 3 in history. First have blazed longer, with higher temps, and on more floors in numerous steel building and not once, have the ever had the steel weakened and caused it to fall. Not only that but some have even had the planes crash into them with similar effects.
Your own personal opinions in here are nothing more than ignorant bullshit. If you want to contribute to the topic I suggest you do what I told you to do, and that is make sure you have facts to back up your ideas, as your opinions mean apsolutely nothing in this kind of debate. You fail round 1, so ready up for the next one.
--- It’s not about money. It’s about sending a message. Everything burns.
And, for the record, fire only needs to burn at 648 degrees farenheit to make steel lose half of strength, which, you have to believe would make it week enought to caollapse under its weight, no?
My source is fucky’s website he posted. Keep it clean remember? The only “proof” that you have is speculation.
Also I read the the General that wired the money was removed from his position when the US demanded it.
The Wall Street Journal was one of the only Western news organizations to follow up on the story, citing the Times of India: “US authorities sought General Mahmoud Ahmad’s removal after confirming the fact that $100,000 was wired to WTC hijacker Mohammed Atta from Pakistan by Ahmad Umar Sheikh at the instance of General Mahmoud.
People in on the supposed 9-11 Con:
-The Bush Administration, who failed at everything they ever did. Yet all of them and the people below are helping him cover up the largest mass murder in US history... Some of them like Richard Clarke and Paul O’Neil have come out for less.
-The NYC Fire fighters who know more about building collapses than most, if not all, of them. It’s their LIFE to know. Literally! Yet they don’t call for an investigation into the MASS MURDER of over 300 of their brothers... Why? (The twisting of these peoples’ statements for donations and DVD sales sickens me.) We have uncovered the myth about a gag order imposed on all fire fighters. Only 9/11 conspiracy sites say this. ONE person who sued Bush for not taking action before the event is ordered by the court not to speak to the media about the case. This is not imposing a gag order on the whole fire department as some of these sites claim. They are lying to cover up this mass murder by the government or the building owner. Why? They don’t even know...
Conspiracy theorists bring up an article in Fire House magazine which says the fire department wanted to stop the steel from being sold in order to test the fire proofing and other non-bomb/controlled demolition related investigations. They twist the article’s context to make it seem like the firefighters questioned the idea that fire brought down the towers.
Many of these men and women come from the military, yet we are to believe they are so afraid they rather die in the government’s next mass murder than come out and expose this.
-The courts for imposing a gag order [SEE above]
-The NYC Police department who lost over 20 lives. They didn’t ask for an investigation. Motive? None...
-The NYC port Authority who lost personnel. Motive?
-All the people in the Pentagon who have not called for an investigation. Many who are liberal and centrist. They did or said nothing while people supposedly trucked in airplane parts to cover the crime. Why? Again, no answer...
-The more than 1,600 widows and widowers of 9/11 who would rather have investigations of the decisions which led to the terrorist getting away with this. They don’t want to waste time investigating the mass murder of their loved ones. Even the Jersey Girls. Why? They say it’s the money... [note: Whenever killing someone, pay off the relative. They won’t say anything.]
-The media (This one I almost believe) who doesn’t follow up on the biggest mass murder and conspiracy in American history. It seems no one wants a Nobel prize for journalism. Not only the American media but foreign press like the BBC and Al Jazeera. Why? No answer here either...
-The photographers from around the world who took pictures of the towers which clearly show bowing of the perimeter columns. These photos support the NIST hypothesis that the sagging trusses lead to the collapse. Some photos also show the core intact shortly after collapse which also not only support the NIST hypothesis but discredits the “Controlled demolition” account.
-Popular Mechanics who debunked these sites are also helping Bush commit the biggest mass murder in history.
-PBS Nova since they created a documentary explaining in detail how and why the buildings fell. None of it said bomb.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/wtc/
-Everyone in the NIST who covers up the largest mass murder in US history. This independent organization doesn’t have a moral person in hundreds of employees because not one has come out exposing this so called “Conspiracy”. In fact, the hundreds of scientist who signed onto the report are willing to not only lie for Bush but cover up the largest mass murder in American history. Some suggest only a handful can do the job but that’s simply impossible. The team in charge of the computer modeling has to be in sync with the team of structural engineers and so on. There are hundreds involved in this investigation and every team has to work with other teams using the same evidence and specifications.
-NY Governor Pataki because he sold steel from the WTC for the construction of the USS New York. If the argument is the government sold the steel in order to cover up the crime then Pataki is one of the criminals.
-The NY city scrap yards because they also sold steel to China before all of it was tested. Bush would have needed to call them up and tell them to sell it before they could have investigated every beam. A task which would have taken years and years not to mention millions more. Ironically the republican Mayor Bloomberg could not be involved since he asked the scrap yards not to sell the steel on behalf of the firefighters.
-EVERY STRUCTURAL ENGINEER IN THE WORLD who doesn’t write a paper for a mainstream peer reviewed journal saying the towers were brought down and could not have fallen due to fire. If laymen can prove things just by looking at videos and reading interviews out of context, then all those structural engineers MUST be working for Bush right? Even the ones in other countries. Why? The answer they give is that the engineers don’t know about Jones’ work. So in all this time no one has e-mailed Jones' work to any structural engineer?
-Structure Magazine who published a report saying the collapse of WTC 7 may have been due to one column failing.
-The liberals who don’t believe the towers were brought down. (Like me) They’re helping a neo-con cover-up the largest mass murder in this nation’s history. Why? No clue...
-The CIA
-The FBI
-FEMA
-The American Society of Civil Engineers who have produced peer reviewed papers showing how what Conspiracy Theorists say is impossible is possible.
-NORAD
-The FAA who saw planes which conspiracy theorists say never existed.
-The Silverstein Group who they say got together with Bush to blow up the building for insurance money.
-Silverstein’s Insurance Company who didn’t question the collapse and paid out over 2 billion to Silverstein. Why? Conspiracy Theorists say the insurance company just wants to pass on the bill to the public but they already fought Silverstein in a number of law suits concerning the amount.
-American Airlines (Pentagon)
-United Airlines (Pentagon)
-Logan, Newark and Dulles Airport for losing the planes
-Scientists and engineers who developed the remote control plane technology
-Installers of the remote control devices in the planes (Pentagon)
-Remote controllers of the planes (Pentagon)
-Scientists and engineers who developed the new demolition technology and carried out practical tests and computer models to make sure it would work.
-Installers of the demolitions devices in the three buildings
-People who worked at the company(s) the installers used as cover
-Airphone etc employees who said they got calls from passengers (Pentagon)
-Faux friends and relatives of the faux passengers or just the faux relatives who claim to have been called by their loved ones or just the psyops who fooled relatives into thinking they really were their loved ones. (Pentagon)
-People who detonated the buildings”
-anyone who thinks the conspiracy is a diversion to take liberal activist focus off of real crimes.
Even conspiracies with a few people are doomed. Look at Enron and Watergate. The more people you involve, the more likely the conspiracy will fall apart. The amount of people needed for this conspiracy could fill one of the towers. It’s absurd to think this many people could keep a mass murder for Bush secret for this long. Absurd...
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