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http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm

Debating with you is impossible. Your denying possibly the most credible source. Guess the NIST is in on it to eh. I think the bribe money is up to 5 trillion dollars right?

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Dupontx123 wrote: http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm

Debating with you is impossible. Your denying possibly the most credible source. Guess the NIST is in on it to eh. I think the bribe money is up to 5 trillion dollars right?


Hey I played your game and gave you an NIST source and quote that contradicted your previous ones. So eventually I did debate your poorly drawn arguement, so now it’s your turn to continue. Until then I’ll be waiting in the shadows.

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Woah. (thank you keanau reeves.)

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if the conspiracy theories are true, american government had it all planned out, it was done because they needed an excuse to go to war,

why attack 3 places?

this whole 9-11 thing is very suspicious, i do sense theres something the government is hiding, but its very hard for me to believe that our government would do such a thing to their own people.

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I mean the whole idea of a False flag terror attack is hard to conceive, but governments have done this many times before.

But I’m not fully in belief about that, but I am positive that the government is lying about quite a few things about what happened at 9/11, and the the 9/11 commission report is a load of bullshit that is more political than factual.

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12 Dec 2007 10:00 pm
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Zucas wrote: I mean the whole idea of a False flag terror attack is hard to conceive, but governments have done this many times before.

But I’m not fully in belief about that, but I am positive that the government is lying about quite a few things about what happened at 9/11, and the the 9/11 commission report is a load of bullshit that is more political than factual.


yes governments have done it before but on such a grand scale? this is just crazy.
yes our government is hiding something, what exactly? we dont know. heck, we may never know.

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bahaha its me wrote:
Zucas wrote: I mean the whole idea of a False flag terror attack is hard to conceive, but governments have done this many times before.

But I’m not fully in belief about that, but I am positive that the government is lying about quite a few things about what happened at 9/11, and the the 9/11 commission report is a load of bullshit that is more political than factual.


yes governments have done it before but on such a grand scale? this is just crazy.
yes our government is hiding something, what exactly? we dont know. heck, we may never know.


on such a grand scale? Of course. How do you think Hitler was able to justify to the people all these invasions into other countries at the start of WWII. He created a public enemy through a false flag terror attack to manipulate their opinions into accepting his agent which ended up them giving up their freedoms for “safety”.

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13 Dec 2007 10:34 pm
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that was the reichster fire if im not mistaken. still that is nothing compared to 9-11.
reichster fire: 1 building, possibly zero dead.
9-11: 3 buildings plus the surrounding buildings of the wtc, 4 planes, about 3,000 people dead.

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Yea some weird name like that that I can’t pronounce. But anyways then it didn’t need hundreds of people dying to manipulate opinions becuase mass media wasn’t there to “uncover” the truth haha. Meaning they had control over what was sent out. Story happens, and the government is probably going to be the biggest media providence, states what they want to say about it. As Hitler and the Nazis stated, it was an act of terrorism by communists. Following that people believed him, not having any other sides of the stories, and the Enabling Act is passed giving the Chancellor a dictatorship and all the people losing their civil liberties in the names of “protection and safety”. As I said it sounds so familiar to 9/11.

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14 Dec 2007 06:08 am
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yeah u have a point there.
but still its unbelievable u know, how our government would kill all those people. if its true then that is just fucked upped. fucking heartless.
i dont know what to believe.

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Zucas wrote: Yea some weird name like that that I can’t pronounce. But anyways then it didn’t need hundreds of people dying to manipulate opinions becuase mass media wasn’t there to “uncover” the truth haha. Meaning they had control over what was sent out. Story happens, and the government is probably going to be the biggest media providence, states what they want to say about it. As Hitler and the Nazis stated, it was an act of terrorism by communists. Following that people believed him, not having any other sides of the stories, and the Enabling Act is passed giving the Chancellor a dictatorship and all the people losing their civil liberties in the names of “protection and safety”. As I said it sounds so familiar to 9/11.



you wont believe a billions who believe the terrorists did it


but you’re prepared to believe the documentary Zeitgeist.


iv seen the documentary, and it does great job, trying to present new avenues to look at things... but its not 100% factually right you know

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is anything ever 100% factual.

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but even more so I doubt billions of people believe the terrorists did it. MOre than half the billion people in this world probably don’t eve know it happened. Out of the other 4 billion half of them probalby don’t care. And of that 2 billion most people are too ignorant anyways to understand. Where are we getting this billions number from.

As I stated I don’t believe either side of the story yet but I more lean to what Zeitgeist is saying becuase they seem to have more facts than our government and less lies. It’s a lot more plausible to believe that our government killed 3000 of its own people than telling me that an entire plane can be vaporized by fire, but a passport that was in that plane was left unscathed on the street.

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al queada must DIE!!!
and whoever thinks It never happened needs to check youtube

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Yea what jackass here put the 1 vote for it never happened haha.

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Zucas wrote:
Dupontx123 wrote:
Also Dupontx, how many times in history has a fire weakened the metal of a steel building to the point of its collapse. I’ll tell ya. 3. The North Tower, South Tower, and WTC 7. Only 3 in history. First have blazed longer, with higher temps, and on more floors in numerous steel building and not once, have the ever had the steel weakened and caused it to fall. Not only that but some have even had the planes crash into them with similar effects.


WTC 7 was brought down because one of the larger towers debris smashed the lower part of it. Also no other building has been hit by a 757.

Also the the WTC were only able to take a 707 not a significantly larger 757.


That’s not what the official report. Report stated that the building was weakened by the debris, but ultimately fell due to fires started up within the building that weakened the support system causing it to collapse. Get your facts straight.


The “Official Report” is a plane crashed into the pentagon.

You can’t choose what parts of what report you’re going to hold to be true.

There’s no conspiracy. Period.

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Zucas wrote:
Dupontx123 wrote:
Also Dupontx, how many times in history has a fire weakened the metal of a steel building to the point of its collapse. I’ll tell ya. 3. The North Tower, South Tower, and WTC 7. Only 3 in history. First have blazed longer, with higher temps, and on more floors in numerous steel building and not once, have the ever had the steel weakened and caused it to fall. Not only that but some have even had the planes crash into them with similar effects.


WTC 7 was brought down because one of the larger towers debris smashed the lower part of it. Also no other building has been hit by a 757.

Also the the WTC were only able to take a 707 not a significantly larger 757.


That’s not what the official report. Report stated that the building was weakened by the debris, but ultimately fell due to fires started up within the building that weakened the support system causing it to collapse. Get your facts straight.


The “Official Report” is a plane crashed into the pentagon.

You can’t choose what parts of what report you’re going to hold to be true.

There’s no conspiracy. Period.


But the official report didn’t say the plane caused the building to fall down. If your going to argue this try not to sound like such an idiot. Learn what really happened and what the official report says, then say what ya got to say. Otherwise ignorance is not welcomed here.

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Zucas wrote:
Atresac wrote:
Zucas wrote:
Dupontx123 wrote:
Also Dupontx, how many times in history has a fire weakened the metal of a steel building to the point of its collapse. I’ll tell ya. 3. The North Tower, South Tower, and WTC 7. Only 3 in history. First have blazed longer, with higher temps, and on more floors in numerous steel building and not once, have the ever had the steel weakened and caused it to fall. Not only that but some have even had the planes crash into them with similar effects.


WTC 7 was brought down because one of the larger towers debris smashed the lower part of it. Also no other building has been hit by a 757.

Also the the WTC were only able to take a 707 not a significantly larger 757.


That’s not what the official report. Report stated that the building was weakened by the debris, but ultimately fell due to fires started up within the building that weakened the support system causing it to collapse. Get your facts straight.


The “Official Report” is a plane crashed into the pentagon.

You can’t choose what parts of what report you’re going to hold to be true.

There’s no conspiracy. Period.


But the official report didn’t say the plane caused the building to fall down. If your going to argue this try not to sound like such an idiot. Learn what really happened and what the official report says, then say what ya got to say. Otherwise ignorance is not welcomed here.


You pick apart what was said to happen, acting as if it were lies, but you conveniently keep the parts of their reports that fit your case.

If 9/11 is a lie set up by the government, using “official reports” forfeits your entire argument.

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Atresac wrote:
Zucas wrote:
Atresac wrote:
Zucas wrote:
Dupontx123 wrote:
Also Dupontx, how many times in history has a fire weakened the metal of a steel building to the point of its collapse. I’ll tell ya. 3. The North Tower, South Tower, and WTC 7. Only 3 in history. First have blazed longer, with higher temps, and on more floors in numerous steel building and not once, have the ever had the steel weakened and caused it to fall. Not only that but some have even had the planes crash into them with similar effects.


WTC 7 was brought down because one of the larger towers debris smashed the lower part of it. Also no other building has been hit by a 757.

Also the the WTC were only able to take a 707 not a significantly larger 757.


That’s not what the official report. Report stated that the building was weakened by the debris, but ultimately fell due to fires started up within the building that weakened the support system causing it to collapse. Get your facts straight.


The “Official Report” is a plane crashed into the pentagon.

You can’t choose what parts of what report you’re going to hold to be true.

There’s no conspiracy. Period.


But the official report didn’t say the plane caused the building to fall down. If your going to argue this try not to sound like such an idiot. Learn what really happened and what the official report says, then say what ya got to say. Otherwise ignorance is not welcomed here.


You pick apart what was said to happen, acting as if it were lies, but you conveniently keep the parts of their reports that fit your case.

If 9/11 is a lie set up by the government, using “official reports” forfeits your entire argument.


I’m finding discrepencies in the report and in people’s arguements in against it. If you had actually followed the entire arguement you’d have known this and not said a word. Now I suggest you actually read what has been stated previously before you make yourself look more like an ass.

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