| 07 Nov 2007 07:08 am |
Dr. Matt Rep: 46  Joined: 07 Jul 2006 Posts: 14,449 OFFLINE | Weasel 16 wrote:
let me rephrase this
#6 even though some one may not hold the same beliefs as you, you should not aggressively or continually put them down or dispel their opinion because of it. All beliefs, however seemingly ridicules or unorthodox shall not be held in lower regard with any other unless they are so truly absurd as to be false in the eyes of the user who professes them as truth.
What that means is don’t oppress anyone’s views unless they’re views are just a way of them screwing with you.
8# this forum is for debate, not advertisement, and as such no topic shall be made advertising any view over any other.
That that one says is that there shouldn’t be any topics like “came see the good news about Jesus!" or “Atheism, the way we all feel deep inside” that try to convert people.
#6 is just stupid. Your basically saying what many other theists have said; “these are my religious beliefs so you should not be able to criticize them. Why? You just can’t”. Asking theists to justify their assertions is not unreasonable.
Yes this forum is for debate, but that doesn’t mean you can’t post a news article or two every once in awhile (that’s what it sounds like your implying).
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| 07 Nov 2007 09:10 am |
Maggot Face nli Guest | ramunematt wrote:
Weasel 16 wrote:
let me rephrase this
#6 even though some one may not hold the same beliefs as you, you should not aggressively or continually put them down or dispel their opinion because of it. All beliefs, however seemingly ridicules or unorthodox shall not be held in lower regard with any other unless they are so truly absurd as to be false in the eyes of the user who professes them as truth.
What that means is don’t oppress anyone’s views unless they’re views are just a way of them screwing with you.
8# this forum is for debate, not advertisement, and as such no topic shall be made advertising any view over any other.
That that one says is that there shouldn’t be any topics like “came see the good news about Jesus!" or “Atheism, the way we all feel deep inside” that try to convert people.
#6 is just stupid. Your basically saying what many other theists have said; “these are my religious beliefs so you should not be able to criticize them. Why? You just can’t”. Asking theists to justify their assertions is not unreasonable.
Yes this forum is for debate, but that doesn’t mean you can’t post a news article or two every once in awhile (that’s what it sounds like your implying).
No, he’s saying that being derogatory, hateful, spiteful, etc. should be punishable.
For example, all those guest posts saying stuff like “Theists are all retarded fags” or something like that. Those shouldn’t have been allowed to have been made.
It’s not avoiding criticism. It’s forbidding being a dick.
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| 07 Nov 2007 07:20 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 6 Joined: 01 Oct 2005 Posts: 3,602 OFFLINE | ramunematt wrote:
Weasel 16 wrote:
let me rephrase this
#6 even though some one may not hold the same beliefs as you, you should not aggressively or continually put them down or dispel their opinion because of it. All beliefs, however seemingly ridicules or unorthodox shall not be held in lower regard with any other unless they are so truly absurd as to be false in the eyes of the user who professes them as truth.
What that means is don’t oppress anyone’s views unless they’re views are just a way of them screwing with you.
8# this forum is for debate, not advertisement, and as such no topic shall be made advertising any view over any other.
That that one says is that there shouldn’t be any topics like “came see the good news about Jesus!" or “Atheism, the way we all feel deep inside” that try to convert people.
#6 is just stupid. Your basically saying what many other theists have said; “these are my religious beliefs so you should not be able to criticize them. Why? You just can’t”. Asking theists to justify their assertions is not unreasonable.
Yes this forum is for debate, but that doesn’t mean you can’t post a news article or two every once in awhile (that’s what it sounds like your implying).
I’m not saying they shouldent justify them, I’m saying you can’t be a... actualy Maggot Face said it best, you nor any one else can be a dick to them.
and as for those news article’s you convenetly leave out that the ones you post are often one sided or bigoted in some way to make christions or outher religious groups look bad.
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Dogbert said the deepest thing ever.
“It is all a part of the big illusion we perpetuate upon ourselves and which is in turn perpetuated upon us. When we believe we engage the illusion, when we stop believing we shatter the illusion and ourselves in the process because we are part of it." | |
| 07 Nov 2007 07:42 pm |
Agent of Chaos Rep: 47 Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 38,687 OFFLINE | Weasel 16 wrote:
and as for those news article’s you convenetly leave out that the ones you post are often one sided or bigoted in some way to make christions or outher religious groups look bad.
So now we can’t present any info that has a leaning towards one side? Alright if I have to see one more Bible reference in here then I’ll quote you.
Part of debating religion is bringing up all sides, no matter there bias. Cause in reality bro almost everythin debated in religion is going to have a bias to one side.
Your rules you are trying to impend on everyone is taking debate out of every aspect of religion. Your thinking we should just come in here and create topics saying Hi I’m a [insert religion] but I still respect all the other religions. Bullshit. This isn’t playground time with parents controlling everything that is said and done. These rules are for how to debate religion properly and respectfully, while still allowing your own opinions, thoughts, and ideals to get out. Your rules are basically trying to limit debate into nothing but a California Liberal Gay Parade where everyone agrees no matter what and accepts everything. Welcome to the real world buddy. This is a topic of religion, and religion is the debate. These rules are simply here to make sujre it’s debated properly and in a respectful manner which can be achieved without limiting it, to most people’s surprise.
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| 07 Nov 2007 08:08 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 6Joined: 01 Oct 2005 Posts: 3,602 OFFLINE | Zucas wrote:
Weasel 16 wrote:
and as for those news article’s you convenetly leave out that the ones you post are often one sided or bigoted in some way to make christions or outher religious groups look bad.
So now we can’t present any info that has a leaning towards one side? Alright if I have to see one more Bible reference in here then I’ll quote you.
Part of debating religion is bringing up all sides, no matter there bias. Cause in reality bro almost everythin debated in religion is going to have a bias to one side.
Your rules you are trying to impend on everyone is taking debate out of every aspect of religion. Your thinking we should just come in here and create topics saying Hi I’m a [insert religion] but I still respect all the other religions. Bullshit. This isn’t playground time with parents controlling everything that is said and done. These rules are for how to debate religion properly and respectfully, while still allowing your own opinions, thoughts, and ideals to get out. Your rules are basically trying to limit debate into nothing but a California Liberal Gay Parade where everyone agrees no matter what and accepts everything. Welcome to the real world buddy. This is a topic of religion, and religion is the debate. These rules are simply here to make sujre it’s debated properly and in a respectful manner which can be achieved without limiting it, to most people’s surprise.
thats cute of you seeing as how when I do the same thing to athists you get all up set. besides i’m not saying you can’t show your side, I’m saying you can’t be an ass hole to some one just because they don’t agree with you.
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Dogbert said the deepest thing ever.
“It is all a part of the big illusion we perpetuate upon ourselves and which is in turn perpetuated upon us. When we believe we engage the illusion, when we stop believing we shatter the illusion and ourselves in the process because we are part of it." | |
| 07 Nov 2007 08:10 pm |
Agent of Chaos Rep: 47Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 38,687 OFFLINE | Hell I want you to go at me. You just don’t have the balls or the intelect to even start.
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| 07 Nov 2007 08:13 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 6Joined: 01 Oct 2005 Posts: 3,602 OFFLINE | BTW if you see any biblical advertising topics feel free to quote my rule I made it for both sides not just one (I hate you both, Christians and atheist radicals alike! hooray for extreme Moderatizm!
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Dogbert said the deepest thing ever.
“It is all a part of the big illusion we perpetuate upon ourselves and which is in turn perpetuated upon us. When we believe we engage the illusion, when we stop believing we shatter the illusion and ourselves in the process because we are part of it." | |
| 07 Nov 2007 08:14 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 6Joined: 01 Oct 2005 Posts: 3,602 OFFLINE | Zucas wrote:
Hell I want you to go at me. You just don’t have the balls or the intelect to even start.
its not that man, I just don’t have the heart.
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Dogbert said the deepest thing ever.
“It is all a part of the big illusion we perpetuate upon ourselves and which is in turn perpetuated upon us. When we believe we engage the illusion, when we stop believing we shatter the illusion and ourselves in the process because we are part of it." | |
| 07 Nov 2007 08:19 pm |
Agent of Chaos Rep: 47Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 38,687 OFFLINE | Weasel 16 wrote:
Zucas wrote:
Hell I want you to go at me. You just don’t have the balls or the intelect to even start.
its not that man, I just don’t have the heart.
Fear!!
If ya got a problem with something say it. Got a problem with my religions or non religious ideals then please tell me. If you don’t then you aren’t being truthful now are you.
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| 07 Nov 2007 08:20 pm |
Agent of Chaos Rep: 47Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 38,687 OFFLINE | Here I’ll call you out first just so we can get this started. I think you have a problem with anyone having a strong belief in anything and you think everyone should disregard any beliefs. People shouldn’t agree on any side but simply play it safe like a coward.
I think this is apparent in a few of your quotes, such as the moderationism one you made a few ago, and the other one where you want all sides to back off of expressing their beliefs not only strongly but even doing them.
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| 07 Nov 2007 08:23 pm |
Ace of 'Nades Rep: 60 Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 15,841 OFFLINE | *yawns
*christian vs. atheist
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| 07 Nov 2007 08:23 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 6Joined: 01 Oct 2005 Posts: 3,602 OFFLINE | when did I say this zucas?
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Dogbert said the deepest thing ever.
“It is all a part of the big illusion we perpetuate upon ourselves and which is in turn perpetuated upon us. When we believe we engage the illusion, when we stop believing we shatter the illusion and ourselves in the process because we are part of it." | |
| 07 Nov 2007 08:24 pm |
Agent of Chaos Rep: 47Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 38,687 OFFLINE | Avoiding the comment? Hmmm. Fits more into what I stated now doesn’t it haha.
By the way am I aggrivating you yet. Glad to finally have a debate though. Too bad its not on religion at all but a personal preference or bias.
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| 07 Nov 2007 08:25 pm |
Ace of 'Nades Rep: 60Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 15,841 OFFLINE | Zucas wrote:
Too bad its not on religion at all but a personal preference or bias.
What’s the question?
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| 07 Nov 2007 08:26 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 6Joined: 01 Oct 2005 Posts: 3,602 OFFLINE | Zucas wrote:
Avoiding the comment? Hmmm. Fits more into what I stated now doesn’t it haha.
By the way am I aggrivating you yet. Glad to finally have a debate though. Too bad its not on religion at all but a personal preference or bias.
I’m not avoiding the comment, I’m asking when did I say those things, or are you misintrupriting what I’ve written.
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Dogbert said the deepest thing ever.
“It is all a part of the big illusion we perpetuate upon ourselves and which is in turn perpetuated upon us. When we believe we engage the illusion, when we stop believing we shatter the illusion and ourselves in the process because we are part of it." | |
| 07 Nov 2007 08:29 pm |
Agent of Chaos Rep: 47Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 38,687 OFFLINE | Weasel 16 wrote:
BTW if you see any biblical advertising topics feel free to quote my rule I made it for both sides not just one (I hate you both, Christians and atheist radicals alike! hooray for extreme Moderatizm!
Well there’s the thing about I hate people on each side and rather people in the middle. Which I interpret as pretty much cowardice. Hell even people such as you have a strong opinion one way or another about religion. I’m sure you not simply here as a joke to simply bash other ideals.
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| 07 Nov 2007 08:31 pm |
Ace of 'Nades Rep: 60Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 15,841 OFFLINE | What’re you guys arguing about?
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| 07 Nov 2007 08:37 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 6Joined: 01 Oct 2005 Posts: 3,602 OFFLINE | Zucas wrote:
Weasel 16 wrote:
BTW if you see any biblical advertising topics feel free to quote my rule I made it for both sides not just one (I hate you both, Christians and atheist radicals alike! hooray for extreme Moderatizm!
Well there’s the thing about I hate people on each side and rather people in the middle. Which I interpret as pretty much cowardice. Hell even people such as you have a strong opinion one way or another about religion. I’m sure you not simply here as a joke to simply bash other ideals.
I asure you extreme Moderatizm is not cowardice
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Dogbert said the deepest thing ever.
“It is all a part of the big illusion we perpetuate upon ourselves and which is in turn perpetuated upon us. When we believe we engage the illusion, when we stop believing we shatter the illusion and ourselves in the process because we are part of it." | |
| 08 Nov 2007 04:25 pm |
Dr. Matt Rep: 46Joined: 07 Jul 2006 Posts: 14,449 OFFLINE | But it is still extreme...
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the21gamer wrote:
fuck that load of bullshit. i dont care if the enemy dies. not fighting back is stupid
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| 08 Nov 2007 06:30 pm |
King of MVC Rep: 24 Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 8,475 OFFLINE | Guys. THIS ISN’T A TOPIC FOR DEBATE. This is a topic to ste up rules so that other topics can be used to effectively debate. Weasel get the FUCK out. Your just trying to stur up trouble. Zucas, lay the fuck off him. Your just patronizing him into continuing this insanity.
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