| 21 Nov 2007 11:04 am |
Regular Rep: 0  Joined: 05 May 2007 Posts: 136 OFFLINE | MB: I don’t mean to be insulting but you have no clue what the fu*k your talking about. watch the buu saga again and pay close attention this time. then prove you theory. ---
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| 21 Nov 2007 11:10 am |
Light-Bringer Rep: 28  Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 8,589 OFFLINE | shigmonty wrote:
MB: I don’t mean to be insulting but you have no clue what the fu*k your talking about. watch the buu saga again and pay close attention this time. then prove you theory.
You obviously have never read the DBZ manga.Lets go over some things.Super Buu was fighting evenly with SSJ3 Gotenks.SSJ3 Gotenks is more powerful than SSJ3 Goku.Later on Mystic Gohan appears and owns Super Buu.After absorbing Gotenks Buu he becomes to strong for both Gohan and Goku.After absorbing Gohan Goku has no chance in hell.After Vegito wails on him and they revert him back to regular Super Buu Goku and Vegeta confront him.Goku says that even though he’s regular he’s still stronger than both of us.Later on Vegeta says Goku could destroy Kid Buu in an instant.Now please read this carefully and answer my question:HOW THE HELL IS KID BUU STRONGER!
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| 21 Nov 2007 11:27 am |
Regular Rep: 0Joined: 05 May 2007 Posts: 136 OFFLINE | show your work ---
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| 21 Nov 2007 11:34 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 6 Joined: 26 Sep 2006 Posts: 2,190 OFFLINE | Manchester Black wrote:
You obviously have never read the DBZ manga.Lets go over some things.Super Buu was fighting evenly with SSJ3 Gotenks.SSJ3 Gotenks is more powerful than SSJ3 Goku.Later on Mystic Gohan appears and owns Super Buu.After absorbing Gotenks Buu he becomes to strong for both Gohan and Goku.After absorbing Gohan Goku has no chance in hell.After Vegito wails on him and they revert him back to regular Super Buu Goku and Vegeta confront him.Goku says that even though he’s regular he’s still stronger than both of us.Later on Vegeta says Goku could destroy Kid Buu in an instant.Now please read this carefully and answer my question:HOW THE HELL IS KID BUU STRONGER!
Go to the GOHAN VS. GOKU THREAD... Allmystuff is there,I’llpost scans later....
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| 21 Nov 2007 11:39 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 6Joined: 26 Sep 2006 Posts: 2,190 OFFLINE | Manchester Black wrote:
I don’t get this.
Think he means to fight. Vegeta knew GOhan AND Gotenks couldn’t take on Kid BUu - the same guy Goku fought ON PAR with. And if Gohan really IS stronger, he wouldn’t have hid.- Goku stayed like a man unlike his pussy son. There is SOmuch evidence Goku’s stronger.
Manchester Black wrote:
Do you mean tear him apart?And no he won’t.
Yes he will...
Manchester Black wrote:
What does Superman even have to do with this fight.
Dunno....
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| 21 Nov 2007 11:41 am |
Light-Bringer Rep: 28Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 8,589 OFFLINE | UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
Go to the GOHAN VS. GOKU THREAD... Allmystuff is there,I’llpost scans later....
Where is the thread?
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| 21 Nov 2007 11:42 am |
Light-Bringer Rep: 28Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 8,589 OFFLINE | UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
Think he means to fight. Vegeta knew GOhan AND Gotenks couldn’t take on Kid BUu - the same guy Goku fought ON PAR with. And if Gohan really IS stronger, he wouldn’t have hid.- Goku stayed like a man unlike his pussy son. There is SOmuch evidence Goku’s stronger.
Its very strange. A few months ago I remeber someone making the same argument on Naruto Forums.Was that you?
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
Yes he will...
Nope not at all.
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| 21 Nov 2007 11:45 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 6Joined: 26 Sep 2006 Posts: 2,190 OFFLINE | Manchester Black wrote:
Except theres a little problem.Kid Buu ain’t the strongest.
OMFG dude. Don’t wanna repeartmyself. JUST GO TO THE OTHER THREAD. Kid Buu IS the strongest.
Manchester Black wrote:
That doesn’t mean a thing.Goku could have went SSJ3 and Vegeta SSJ2 and they still would have lost to Kid Buu.
YOu mean SUper Buu? Hell no. You have no proof of this. Kid BUu >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mystic Gohan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Super Buu = SSJ3 GOtenks = Fat Buu (in power,not skill) Oh and full power Goku >>>> Kid Buu since even though hen couldn’t goto full,he fought onm par with Kid Buu.So GOku>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>GOhan.
Manchester Black wrote:
Goku is stupid but Goku ain’t that stupid!
There’s nothing retarded about this. It’s a matter of pride man 
Manchester Black wrote:
Sure I’ll be right there.
K.
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| 21 Nov 2007 11:48 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 6Joined: 26 Sep 2006 Posts: 2,190 OFFLINE | Manchester Black wrote:
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
Think he means to fight. Vegeta knew GOhan AND Gotenks couldn’t take on Kid BUu - the same guy Goku fought ON PAR with. And if Gohan really IS stronger, he wouldn’t have hid.- Goku stayed like a man unlike his pussy son. There is SOmuch evidence Goku’s stronger.
Its very strange. A few months ago I remeber someone making the same argument on Naruto Forums.Was that you?
SSJ13? Yep, that was me? Naruto forums user? ANd besides I countered them SO many times but they just kept denying it so I left...
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
Yes he will...
Nope not at all.
Yeah he will.
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| 21 Nov 2007 11:49 am |
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| 21 Nov 2007 11:50 am |
Light-Bringer Rep: 28Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 8,589 OFFLINE | UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
OMFG dude. Don’t wanna repeartmyself. JUST GO TO THE OTHER THREAD. Kid Buu IS the strongest.
And I repeat,where is the other thread?
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
YOu mean SUper Buu? Hell no. You have no proof of this.
I have no proof of this?Simple lets review.Goku and Vegeta were scared of Kid Buu at first but then after his transformation was complete they weren’t even scared anymore.When they say Kid Buu they were terrified.
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
Kid BUu >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mystic Gohan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Super Buu = SSJ3 GOtenks = Fat Buu (in power,not skill)
No and I mean NO.Fat Buu is weaker than Super Buu.SSJ3 Gotenks is stronger than Goku and he was barely able to fight Super Buu.Mystic Gohan was owning Super Buu.
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
Oh and full power Goku >>>> Kid Buu since even though hen couldn’t goto full,he fought onm par with Kid Buu.So GOku>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>GOhan.
That logic makes no sense since Kid Buu ain’t strongest.Since Goku and Vegeta TOGETHER couldn’t handle Super Buu yet SSJ3 Goku alone could beat Kid Buu that tells you something.
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
There’s nothing retarded about this. It’s a matter of pride man
Goku isn’t going to let his pride destroy earth.
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| 21 Nov 2007 12:00 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 6Joined: 26 Sep 2006 Posts: 2,190 OFFLINE | Manchester Black wrote:
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
OMFG dude. Don’t wanna repeartmyself. JUST GO TO THE OTHER THREAD. Kid Buu IS the strongest.
And I repeat,where is the other thread?
I told you...
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
YOu mean SUper Buu? Hell no. You have no proof of this.
I have no proof of this?Simple lets review.Goku and Vegeta were scared of Kid Buu at first but then after his transformation was complete they weren’t even scared anymore.When they say Kid Buu they were terrified.
Vegeta goes ha ha ha at his SIZE, NOT POWER. LAter he gets his ass kicked. And WE can take him they THOUGHT. Lmfao Kid BUu didn’tlose anything fihgting something with HALF his power, he fought off Vegeta and ven fought on par with SSJ3 who was the strongest nonfused being of the universe even though he couldn’tgo to max. And you mean scaredof SUper Buu? No and I mean HELL no.
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
Kid BUu >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mystic Gohan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Super Buu = SSJ3 GOtenks = Fat Buu (in power,not skill)
No and I mean NO.Fat Buu is weaker than Super Buu.SSJ3 Gotenks is stronger than Goku and he was barely able to fight Super Buu.Mystic Gohan was owning Super Buu.
This is wrong... Fist of all Goku >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gotenks. Dunno where you got Gotenks was stronger. And Gotenks was on par with Super Buu. Gohan owned him so he was stronger. WOW Goku had more power than Gohan AND Gotenks when he was holding back AND couldn’t get to max. Funny huh? Btw look at it this way. Majin Buu split into 2 parts of equal power, Mr. Buu and Evil Bu who are the same in power. They fight but Evil Buu redirects Fat BUu’s attack to him. They equal Super Buu, smarter and a better fighter yeah but still the SAME POWER. 2+2=4 no matter what. The skilled 2+the nonskilled 2 = still equals 4 even though it has mnore skill.
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
Oh and full power Goku >>>> Kid Buu since even though hen couldn’t goto full,he fought onm par with Kid Buu.So GOku>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>GOhan.
That logic makes no sense since Kid Buu ain’t strongest.Since Goku and Vegeta TOGETHER couldn’t handle Super Buu yet SSJ3 Goku alone could beat Kid Buu that tells you something.
Yeah HE is. OMFG stop repeating yourself! You KNOW Goku was holding back... That holds no value.
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
There’s nothing retarded about this. It’s a matter of pride man
Goku isn’t going to let his pride destroy earth.
Earth wasn’t in direct threat when they were in Buu’s body.
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| 21 Nov 2007 12:52 pm |
Light-Bringer Rep: 28Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 8,589 OFFLINE | UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
I told you...
You told me what the thread title was you didn’t tell me where it was located or give me a link.
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
Vegeta goes ha ha ha at his SIZE, NOT POWER. LAter he gets his ass kicked. And WE can take him they THOUGHT.
They sensed as well.He wasn’t as strong as Super Buu.
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
Lmfao Kid BUu didn’tlose anything fihgting something with HALF his power, he fought off Vegeta and ven fought on par with SSJ3 who was the strongest nonfused being of the universe even though he couldn’tgo to max. And you mean scaredof SUper Buu? No and I mean HELL no.
Mystic Gohan was the strongest.And yes he was scared.
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
This is wrong... Fist of all Goku >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gotenks. Dunno where you got Gotenks was stronger. And Gotenks was on par with Super Buu.
Yet Toriyama himself said Gotenks at SSJ is stronger than SSJ3 Goku.Hmm.
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
Gohan owned him so he was stronger. WOW Goku had more power than Gohan AND Gotenks when he was holding back AND couldn’t get to max. Funny huh?
Yeah cause its not true.
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
Btw look at it this way. Majin Buu split into 2 parts of equal power, Mr. Buu and Evil Bu who are the same in power. They fight but Evil Buu redirects Fat BUu’s attack to him. They equal Super Buu, smarter and a better fighter yeah but still the SAME POWER. 2+2=4 no matter what. The skilled 2+the nonskilled 2 = still equals 4 even though it has mnore skill.
I said Fat Buu was weaker not way weaker.
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
Yeah HE is. OMFG stop repeating yourself! You KNOW Goku was holding back... That holds no value.
Goku wasn’t holding back when they fought Super Buu he just knew they couldn’t win.
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
Earth wasn’t in direct threat when they were in Buu’s body.
Goku isn’t that stupid.He knows that once he and the z fighters die earth is going to be destroyed.
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| 21 Nov 2007 03:51 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 18 Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,621 OFFLINE | omg so much retarded shit here i dont know were to start oh yea i do...Gohan would beat Kid Buu as he pwned Super Buu ---
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| 21 Nov 2007 05:45 pm |
Regular Rep: 3  Joined: 21 Nov 2007 Posts: 188 OFFLINE | Red_Calibur9 wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
hmmm how so Kid Buu is a slight inprovement in abilitys to Super Buu...but dam he lacks any real brain power (witch strikes the question how he fights so well).
Well, Goku + Vegeta weren’t able to defeat Super Buu, but Goku on his own is about equal to Kid Buu, and Mystic Gohan whipped Super Buu, so, Super Buu > Kid Buu, and Mystic Gohan > Super Buu, so logically, Mystic Gohan > Kid Buu.
Actually vegetto Could Have Destroyed Him Ez Don’t You Remeber Old Kai Screaming At The Top Of His Lungs “FINISH HIM AND STOP TOYING” Something along those lines.
besides they kicked his ass as a jawbreaker for crying out loud... they aloud themselves to be taken into majin buu so they could rescue the others.. duh
Goku SS3 Stated He Could Have defeated Kid buu if he had tryed but he wanted to let vegeta have a turn.
i’d say gohan mystic saiyan is = to goku’s ss3 if you follow the show
following reasons...
#1 he only intended to stall fat buu not defeat him
#2 Right Before he fought kid buu he said he could have beaten fat buu but he wanted goten and trunks to..
Another Fact is This... Goku Did Fight Super Buu With Gotenks Absorbed And Did Quite Well While Waitin For Gohan To Find The Potara Ear ring.
Another Fact States That Gohan Had Ascended Past His Previous Limtations Stated By Kibitokai when he first transformed into mystic gohan.. his previous limt was ss2..
If Anything SS3 Goku And Gohan Mystic Saiyan Are Completly Equal
so i’d say goku ss3 and mystic gohan could if they didnt play around.
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| 22 Nov 2007 05:24 am |
Regular Rep: 2Joined: 03 Nov 2007 Posts: 486 OFFLINE | shigmonty wrote:
ssj6kalel wrote:
gohan wins..... bcoz..... well... uhmmm he wins!!! yay!!
but seriously speaking... gohan will win against kid buu.... but not bcoz gohans stronger than goku... gohan is just stronger than buu.... you guys do remember that vegeta said if goku used all his power against kid buu, goku can kill him... so basically goku is stronger than buu... but the thing is goku cant maintain his ssj3 form.. and gohan is almost on par with his father so yeah, gohan will win...
gohan is not “on par” with his father. goku took on the strongest form of the buu’s and matched him blow for blow. while he was holding back might I add. and gohan got his ass handed to him when he fought gotenks absorbed buu. If you don’t belive me then watch the episodes again.
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| 22 Nov 2007 12:47 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 18Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,621 OFFLINE | I can understand Goku beating Fat Buu sure why not and allout mabe he could beat Kid Buu even with the time restraints, but the problem is Gohan dousent lose his Ki he is constantly at max in base form..
Gotenk’s Buu vs SSJ3 was non Cannon but even if you inclse it what do you find out (Gotenks Buu toy’s with Goku and is consentrateing on Gohan the one time Goku blasts him of Guard).
Gohan also fought him non cannon and held his own he was hiting him and defending his shots, (even when Gotenks Buu traps him with Cosmic Halo he breaks free still).
So id have to give it to Gohan in all rspect Manga or Anime, Goku was holding back against Fat Buu but still dident show any sighns of haveing slowed the monster down Buu was haveing the time of his life, Gohan beat the crap out of Super Buu without any effort and clearly hurt him. ---
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| 23 Nov 2007 03:22 am |
ULXR Guest | Manchester Black wrote:
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
I told you...
You told me what the thread title was you didn’t tell me where it was located or give me a link.
Now I did.
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
Vegeta goes ha ha ha at his SIZE, NOT POWER. LAter he gets his ass kicked. And WE can take him they THOUGHT.
They sensed as well.He wasn’t as strong as Super Buu.
Umm no. He revealed his power later.
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
Lmfao Kid BUu didn’tlose anything fihgting something with HALF his power, he fought off Vegeta and ven fought on par with SSJ3 who was the strongest nonfused being of the universe even though he couldn’tgo to max. And you mean scaredof SUper Buu? No and I mean HELL no.
Mystic Gohan was the strongest.And yes he was scared.
Mystic Gohan was the SECOND strongest. Fat Buu = Super Buu and Kid Buu >>>>>> Super Buu. No he was NOT scared.
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
This is wrong... Fist of all Goku >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gotenks. Dunno where you got Gotenks was stronger. And Gotenks was on par with Super Buu.
Yet Toriyama himself said Gotenks at SSJ is stronger than SSJ3 Goku.Hmm.
No he didn’t. You keep saying this. Prove it.
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
Gohan owned him so he was stronger. WOW Goku had more power than Gohan AND Gotenks when he was holding back AND couldn’t get to max. Funny huh?
Yeah cause its not true.
No cause it IS.
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
Btw look at it this way. Majin Buu split into 2 parts of equal power, Mr. Buu and Evil Bu who are the same in power. They fight but Evil Buu redirects Fat BUu’s attack to him. They equal Super Buu, smarter and a better fighter yeah but still the SAME POWER. 2+2=4 no matter what. The skilled 2+the nonskilled 2 = still equals 4 even though it has mnore skill.
I said Fat Buu was weaker not way weaker.
He’s not weaker PERIOD. Super Buu is just smarter and more skilled in combat.
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
Yeah HE is. OMFG stop repeating yourself! You KNOW Goku was holding back... That holds no value.
Goku wasn’t holding back when they fought Super Buu he just knew they couldn’t win.
He didn’t even ascend to SSJ2... Not holding back my ass...
UltimaLegendXReborn wrote:
Earth wasn’t in direct threat when they were in Buu’s body.
Goku isn’t that stupid.He knows that once he and the z fighters die earth is going to be destroyed.
Nope. If Super Buu WAS stronger than Goku was, he coulda easily done a temporary fusion with Vegeta to make Gogeta...but he wasn’t AND he didn’t wanna piss of Vegeta by going SSJ3... | |
| 23 Nov 2007 11:51 am |
Light-Bringer Rep: 28Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 8,589 OFFLINE | ULXR wrote:
Now I did.
No Kyle made a new thread.
ULXR wrote:
Umm no. He revealed his power later.
All he did was fire a ball at earth to destroy it.Super Buu could have done that as well.
ULXR wrote:
Mystic Gohan was the SECOND strongest. Fat Buu = Super Buu and Kid Buu >>>>>> Super Buu. No he was NOT scared.
Wrong on so many levels.Mystic Gohan was pwning Super Buu who is stronger than Kid Buu.
ULXR wrote:
No he didn’t. You keep saying this. Prove it.
I posted a link to show you in the Goku vs Superman thread and you denied it.
ULXR wrote:
No cause it IS.
More like not.
ULXR wrote:
He’s not weaker PERIOD. Super Buu is just smarter and more skilled in combat.
He is.
ULXR wrote:
He didn’t even ascend to SSJ2... Not holding back my ass...
Because he knew they would lose.
ULXR wrote:
Nope. If Super Buu WAS stronger than Goku was, he coulda easily done a temporary fusion with Vegeta to make Gogeta...but he wasn’t AND he didn’t wanna piss of Vegeta by going SSJ3...
Uh Gogeta is noncanon and Goku isn’t going to let pride get him killed.
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| 24 Nov 2007 11:09 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 18Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,621 OFFLINE | Fushion is stronger than SSJ3 anyway and Goku wanted to use that on Super Buu this shows he knew singular they could not hope to win but together is the only way they could prevail. ---
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