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#181
25 Jan 2008 02:30 pm
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“Cloud fights off an assassin of DeepGround’s Tsviets, Rosso, ferociously. "

There you go Kyle, that clears up the Rosso bull of being on par with Cloud.
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sora and king micky beat sephoroth smiley
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#183
26 Jan 2008 12:02 pm
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KH isn’t a part of the FF compilation xD. FF characters are HEAVILY depowered.
#184
01 Feb 2008 11:56 pm
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Sephiroth v.s Vincent Valentine... Ithink it would be a draw. THis is becuase Vincent and Sephiroth are both extremes, Vincent is dark, brooding, intimidating and when you look at him he seems invincible. Spehiroth also makes you feel like your nothing, with his long silver hair and like 7ft. sword.
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lmao indeed they are scary badass mofo’s
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#186
16 Feb 2008 06:15 pm
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I believe that you all have good points but Kyle Knight has a really good point. Vincent did defeat Vice, and Azul, Nero, and Russo. and Omega. Vincent could so beat Sephie.
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16 Feb 2008 06:16 pm
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Darkgirl15 wrote: I believe that you all have good points but Kyle Knight has a really good point. Vincent did defeat Vice, and Azul, Nero, and Russo. and Omega. Vincent could so beat Sephie.

Sephiroth, if given all his abilities would tear Vincent up.
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#188
16 Feb 2008 06:22 pm
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think about what ya’ll r saying. Vincent and Chaos are one. I think they proved that. Therefore Vincent could so kick Sephie’s ass, even if he had to use Chaos. Vincent is the shiz man.
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16 Feb 2008 08:28 pm
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Darkgirl15 wrote: think about what ya’ll r saying. Vincent and Chaos are one. I think they proved that. Therefore Vincent could so kick Sephie’s ass, even if he had to use Chaos. Vincent is the shiz man.


Vincent and Chaos are separated at the end of DoC. Chaos and Omega both return to lifestream.
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Darkgirl15 wrote: think about what ya’ll r saying. Vincent and Chaos are one. I think they proved that. Therefore Vincent could so kick Sephie’s ass, even if he had to use Chaos. Vincent is the shiz man.

Sephiroth and Jenova are one too.
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Chaos:

Strenth: Lift’s Azul’s Turret Gun with ease




Speed: Chaos move’s so fast he leave’s after image’s and disappear’s completely



Power: He blow’s Rosso away with his aura alone, penitrate’s Omega’s Barrior and quake’s earth when stoping Omega.







Now some note’s on why Chaos can beat Sephiroth,

1. Sephiroth is stated to be the strongest existence in the UO i can’t get around that so out of shear power alone he win’s outright against anyone but due to charicter flaw’s Sephiroth has lost on more than one occation to an inferior being...Cloud now as Buster will tell you their physical fighting isnt amazingly far apart but in all out ability’s Sephiroth destroy’s Cloud.

Now my point in DoC Vincent is the new savior of the series not Cloud with new charicter’s and enemy’s on witch to defeat each very strong member of the Tsveit’s the top leading branch of Deep Ground the shadow of shinra and it’s darkest secret’s on human testing, they are very strong opponent’s demonstrateing many impressive speed and strenth feat’s witch so far surpass anything physicaly Sephiroth has shown against Cloud and to say that Vincent beat all but one member without Chaos is impressive in itself (so Vincent alone is a force to be reckoned with, id say on par with Cloud AC after DoC and Chaos tear’s these guy’s a new one even thir leader Weiss who is the closest possible power ive seen to Sephiroth in an FF7 title so far).

So to say Chaos is better than these guy’s who are considered the strongest being’s on the planet is really saying something and destroying Omega who has a body capable of harnessing all life energy on the planet and being in legent the destroyer of all life on earth back up the theory that Chaos is no push over at all, so far ive never seen either try in a fight Chaos has demonstrated more impressive feat’s but Seph is holding back the brunt of his power but if anyone can last Seph in an allout fight so far it’s Chaos
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#192
18 Feb 2008 03:29 pm
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1. Sephiroth is stated to be the strongest existence in the UO i can’t get around that so out of shear power alone he win’s outright against anyone but due to charicter flaw’s Sephiroth has lost on more than one occation to an inferior being...Cloud now as Buster will tell you their physical fighting isnt amazingly far apart but in all out ability’s Sephiroth destroy’s Cloud.

Hypothetical battle he destroys everyone in VII, he’s not gonna be fueled with arrogance in a hypothetical battle.

Now my point in DoC Vincent is the new savior of the series not Cloud with new charicter’s and enemy’s on witch to defeat each very strong member of the Tsveit’s the top leading branch of Deep Ground the shadow of shinra and it’s darkest secret’s on human testing, they are very strong opponent’s demonstrateing many impressive speed and strenth feat’s witch so far surpass anything physicaly Sephiroth has shown against Cloud and to say that Vincent beat all but one member without Chaos is impressive in itself (so Vincent alone is a force to be reckoned with, id say on par with Cloud AC after DoC and Chaos tear’s these guy’s a new one even thir leader Weiss who is the closest possible power ive seen to Sephiroth in an FF7 title so far).

Vincent is NOT VII’s main protagonist, that would be Cloud, no arguments please. And Sephiroth is far beyond any character in DoC, the Tsviets don’t come close, the closest being Omega Weiss. Vincent is not on par with AC Cloud, what’s he gonna do, shoot Cloud? All out power, Weiss is still quite a bit below Sephiroth, as is everyone else.
So to say Chaos is better than these guy’s who are considered the strongest being’s on the planet is really saying something and destroying Omega who has a body capable of harnessing all life energy on the planet and being in legent the destroyer of all life on earth back up the theory that Chaos is no push over at all, so far ive never seen either try in a fight Chaos has demonstrated more impressive feat’s but Seph is holding back the brunt of his power but if anyone can last Seph in an allout fight so far it’s Chaos

The Tsviets are not the strongest beings, Hojo state this not SE, Hojo talks through his ass, and I can prove it on more than one occasion. Sephiroth is a planet buster just like Omega, your point? And Sephiroth is not holding back, holding back would mean he didn’t want to kill Cloud.
Oh and Sephiroth would destroy Chaos if he was going all out, intangible anyone?
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1. exactly in Hyperthetical battle tho how do you measure Sephiroth’s true strenth?, but if were going by what he has been able to do so far Chaos is more than enough for the task wouldent you agree.

2. Vincent became the protagonist through popular demand Enix even said it was bound to happen Vincent’s backround just cried out for a story and his popularity is almost on par with Sephiroth’s and as it was explained in UO Vincent need’s to be forced into any situation in order to fight someone as he is the loner of the group so it’s easy to see why he was happy to leave Kadaj to Cloud in AC, true the majority of the Tsveit’s Rosso Azul Shelk and Nero don’t compare with Sephiroth but Weiss douse come pretty dam close he isn’t as powerful if we read the UO like u have shown but he has displayed much greater feat’s witch make’s him the next best thing.

DoC Vincent is clearly stronger than Cloud is i dident see him dealing with Omega/Weiss/ or any of the Tsveit’s for that matter, (i know what ur thinking why dident he beat Kadaj and co a, not his fight b, Vincent was weaker untill DoC c, it take’s alot to make him fight without feeling it has some perpose to him).

The Tsveit’s are the strongest in DoC earth as Sephiroth is dead currantly Omega is the strongest weapon Sephiroth was weaker than even Ruby weapon in FF7 (Omni-Slash douse 900 damage to it at best, and Omega had the most durable body of the weapon’s) Sephiroth has never displayed the ability to wipe out a planet he say’s he can but it’s still just theory...mabe if his plan in 7 had succeded or the one in AC but untill i see i just don’t know but i rekon he probably could.

When i say held back the brunt of his power i mean his spiritual control will over Cloud and materia...and mabe alittle in physical due to arrogance he wanted Cloud dead but he wanted him to suffer first
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#194
18 Feb 2008 06:25 pm
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1. exactly in Hyperthetical battle tho how do you measure Sephiroth’s true strenth?, but if were going by what he has been able to do so far Chaos is more than enough for the task wouldent you agree.

Not really, because we know what Sephiroth is capable of. I could go throught the ways in which Sephiroth would destroy Chaos if you want.
. Vincent became the protagonist through popular demand Enix even said it was bound to happen Vincent’s backround just cried out for a story and his popularity is almost on par with Sephiroth’s and as it was explained in UO Vincent need’s to be forced into any situation in order to fight someone as he is the loner of the group so it’s easy to see why he was happy to leave Kadaj to Cloud in AC, true the majority of the Tsveit’s Rosso Azul Shelk and Nero don’t compare with Sephiroth but Weiss douse come pretty dam close he isn’t as powerful if we read the UO like u have shown but he has displayed much greater feat’s witch make’s him the next best thing.

You do know that Cloud is the most popular VII character? Oh and popularity has nothing to do with it, Cloud is the main protagonist, Sephiroth beiing the opposite. Zack is aslo very popular and he isn’t the main protagonist either. What? He left Kadaj to Cloud because he knew he could handle it. Base Sephiroth is more powerful than Weiss you know? Only Omega Weiss is more powerful than Base Sephiroth, that’s the thing you mainly concentrate on physical feats, where as Sephiroth has both physical and spiritual.

DoC Vincent is clearly stronger than Cloud is i dident see him dealing with Omega/Weiss/ or any of the Tsveit’s for that matter, (i know what ur thinking why dident he beat Kadaj and co a, not his fight b, Vincent was weaker untill DoC c, it take’s alot to make him fight without feeling it has some perpose to him).

Wasn’t Cloud doing something else? Cloud beat Rosso, I’ll show you the quote again if you want. Yes Kadaj was Cloud’s battle, but not Sephiroth, or Bahamut, Vincent couldn’t even scratch bahamut. Vincent hasn’t really changed much since AC, as he still fights beings far less powerful than Cloud does.

The Tsveit’s are the strongest in DoC earth as Sephiroth is dead currantly Omega is the strongest weapon Sephiroth was weaker than even Ruby weapon in FF7 (Omni-Slash douse 900 damage to it at best, and Omega had the most durable body of the weapon’s) Sephiroth has never displayed the ability to wipe out a planet he say’s he can but it’s still just theory...mabe if his plan in 7 had succeded or the one in AC but untill i see i just don’t know but i rekon he probably could.

No they are not, Hojo say they are, that does not equate to the truth. Cloud has the potential to destroy ANY Tsviet. Sephiroth was not weaker than Ruby WEAPON, that was game mechanics as SE wanted to create a baddie far more challanging, it’s like that in every FF. Agains numbers mean nothing here as that’s game mechanics. Sephiroth was destroying the planet with the negative lifestrea, and nothing is more powerful than Sephiroth meaning he’s better at everything. His plan was in progress in AC, all he had/wanted to do first was beat Cloud.

When i say held back the brunt of his power i mean his spiritual control will over Cloud and materia...and mabe alittle in physical due to arrogance he wanted Cloud dead but he wanted him to suffer first


He didn’t hold back physically AT ALL. Try to say he’s not using full abilities, because holdiing back implies Sephiroth wasn’t trying to kill Cloud. But you still forget the fact that Sephiroth has to wear Cloud down before defeating him
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1. im listening?

2. Cloud isn’t the most popular but he is pretty dam popular, it really dousent matter if Vincent knew Cloud could beat Kadaj the fact is he said it’s his battle meaning he had no desire to intervene.

If you mean Base Sephiroth from CC then no i don’t see him even comeing close to Weiss and you would have much trouble proveing that one aswell, Omega Weiss infused with Omega was the next best thing to Sephiroth he was absorbing the Lifestream just how Seph longed to in FFVII and if had succeded WOULD have surpassed him no doubt.

Well Weiss dousent use any Materia either that’s how you can tell he is superior in physical than Sephiroth with his displayed ability’s so far (witch if Sephiroth being better at everything is true would mean he held back his true speed and strenth).

3. Cloud was trying to cut the reactor that was feeding Omega, helping Vincent out rather like when Vincent showed up to help him with the remnant’s or Bahamut, Cloud fought Rosso of it’s forseeable he could have beat her tho that is true as he has beaten Sephiroth the most powerful being in VII (but neither was injured or defeated as she dousent take defeat so well as shown on more than one occation) so save the quote as it dousent say Cloud DEFEATED Rosso douse it?

Vincent was weaker and dident appear to be going all out? aside from Cloud’s limit break’s he did as much as Cloud none of there weapon’s did any pysical damage to it but it sure douse scream when Vincent shoot’s it Cid Spear’s it and Red XIII bite’s it



That’s your opinion one i don’t agree with (in hyperthetical battle Sephiroth destroy’s Cloud non fuled by arrogance ok so the same go’s for them) Nero would crush Cloud in darkness and i can’t see him lasting long against Azul’s transformation or the fact Rosso can clone herself three time’s (sure he could beat Shelk tho) and as for Weiss Cloud has nowere near the speed and power to tangle with him a guy who leave’s after image’s and dissapear’s from sight naturaly.

Vincent has fought the stronger opponent’s to date but allout Sephiroth is the strongest (remember Vincent went through VII aswell)

Being the most powerful dousent make him the best at everything Omega was desighned to absorb Lifestream and born with a near indistructable body capable of storeing that energy, Sephiroth may well be much stronger but it’s all theory untill he douse it all we no is he has the most power, and im saying Ruby weapon was invunarable to physical attack naturaly so to defeat it was alot harder than sephiroth and by that point he wasn’t the most powerful being alive anyway.

Sephiroth Could have buchered Cloud if he dident had really wanted to, i mean he is the most powerful he could move faster than Weiss if he wanted to riiight cus he is the best at everything his sword skill was better than Cloud’s so he could pwn him with them as they wernt on par also Seph never tire’s so keeping up a full blown attack would be easy then their is his spiritual capability’s he could invade Cloud’s mind and make him hump himself with his sword.

So yea i do belive he wanted to make Cloud suffer his quote’s in battle back this.
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#196
19 Feb 2008 06:32 am
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1. Ok, Chaos cannot hit something that is intaginble. Sephiroth can use telekenisis to hold Chaos in place. Sephiroth is stronger, faster, more durable than Chaos, don’t get me talking about fighting skill either. Next Sephiroth’s regenreation is insane, making a body in six seconds. Sephiroth can use the negative lifestream to draw Chaos’s energy making him useless, controlling you own lifestream gives you the ability to manipulate it in any way, what is materia? Is it condensed lifestream? Sephiroth can use the Negative lifestream as a Miasma (that’s why Avalanche couldn’t intervene, NOT because they left it to Cloud). I could go on about more spells and effects he can do like illusions, in VII, Sephiroth is broken, end of story.

2. Yes he is. He’s even voted the most popular playstation character on some occaisions, so there you go. No desire to intervene with KADAJ, NOT Sephiroth.

Yes CC Sephiroth. You do know that Weiss is a SOLDIER right? And who is the best? Is it Sephiroth? That just shows how inferior Weiss is, he NEEDs Omega for his plans, Sephiroth controls the will of the planet by himself, he can bend life to his will, he’s a demi god, Weiss isn’t even close. Weiss wouldn’t surpass Sephiroth by default, ask SE.

Weiss doesn’t use materia, but he needs Omega to be uber powerful. Sephiroth doesn’t use materia in AC. He is NOT superior to Sephiroth in any way and stop that bull about Sephiroth holding back, you just can’t accept the fact that Cloud is more than a match for Base Weiss.

3. Exactly, he’s helping Vincent. Vincent helped Cloud ESCAPE, oh and Vincent and Avalanche didn’t do much to Bahamut, as they were fighting for 2 hours. Here’s the quote from Cloud’s Compilation Ultimania Profile
“Cloud fights off an assassin of DeepGround’s Tsviets, Rosso, ferociously. "

He beat her, whatever way you look at it.
Oh and did Sephiroth look injured when he died? No he didn’t even though he got pwned he showed no battle wounds or anything, so Rosso looking 'fine' means nothing.
Oh and do you know what 'fighting somebody off means'? If you don’t know then Jesus help you.

Cid did the most damage, and Cloud kills it, end of story, where Avalanche fighting for 2 hours or what?

Omnislash would kill Nero before he summons his darkenss, same with Azul, and Rosso, they would be statues, end of story. Also the fact that he’s better skilled fighter than them three. Cloud can dodge Sephiroth and lightning, Weiss is nothing to dodge.

A Physical Sephiroth is still greater than any being in VII, so therefore Cloud fought the storngest being. End of.

Being the most powerful DOES make him the best, what does nothing above him mean? Exactly that. Omega this Omega that, it can’t do anything if Sephiroth drains in power with the negative liefstream. Nope, it’s not theory, Sephiroth IS the most powerful, end of, Jesus no this again.
You are using game mechanics for Ruby, Omega who is more powerful gets slaughtered with one hit.

You can’t fight ferociously, use full power attacks if you are playing with someone, that defeats the whole meaning of trying to kill someone. You just don’t want to accept that Cloud can physically give anyone a run for their money in VII, heck you think Zack is superior and even Rosso at one point. Omfg do you read any quotes, Sephiroth doesn’t tire because he doens’t run out of energy, omfg here we go again 'omg sefu wus playn wid clud stirf' HE WASN’T DAMNIT, when you understand this, then I’ll continue, if you still believe that whole not trying bullshit, then you ARE broken.
You don’t know if Sephiroth can mind control Cloud anymore actually. Oh these same spritual abilites is the whole reason why he’s more than capable of destroying anyone, I think if your will is stronger than the planets...i say no more.

And SE say he wants to kill Cloud by fighting with full physical force. Good day sir.
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Why can’t he hit something intangible he can stand on the lifestream, he can drain mako from other being’s even harness his own Mako Feild so why would this be different, how can Sephiroth hold Chaos who broke free from Omega’s body broke through Omega’s barrior and had enough power to destroy Omega’s body completely (not to mention deny Nero’s darkness) have any trouble breaking through Seph’s teleknisis?

Sephiroth can lift the masimune and cut rip the top side of Shinra corp off, Chaos can lift a tank turret and stop Omega from accending quakeing the planet, Omni Slash pwned Sephiroth Kamikaze pwned Chaos big differance.

Fighting skill...if Sephiroth can even keep up with Chaos who leave’s after image’s and move’s faster than is possible to see yea he might have a chance, but considering he was able to avoid every move Weiss made in battle moveing at those speed’s i highly doubt it, then their’s his energy ray’s that killed Azul and his Death Penalty witch withstood Weiss blade’s no problem and are way more powerful than the Cirberus that he fought Bahamut with.

Seph require’s a host with Jeanova Cell’s or else it take’s sometime to recreate a body from the life stream all Chaos has to do is cause Seph’s body enough damage like Cloud to beat him

Heck even Shelk can move Omnislash fast and she is nothing on Chaos:


Sephiroth cannot even rob Chaos Mako it’s the other way around Chaos has even demonstrated this when he robbed Azul’s Mako energy to feed himself so it’s Sephiroth sadly that would become useless from this manuvore.

Well popularity gave Vincent his own title fandom demanded it, so i don’t think it matter’s how popular Cloud is when he was replaced regardless?

Sephiroth was the strongest SOLDIER who was known about not thee strongest DG was a secret faction in shinra only few knew about if your a dark secret barly anyone know’s about you, so it was alright for the world to assume this.



In DG Restrictor was the supream existence he killed Solider’s like nothing and was of a unit that was not even ment to exist the best the 14th unit, A tsveit has a triple SSS rank that’s how good they are and are the best in SOLDIER to rechive a coulour and be considered a TSVIAT there goal to be the ultimate existence, so if Sephiroth was ment to be the best yet a their is a unit even higher than the one he attained how can he still be the best?



Azul tear’s two young upstart’s who consider themselve’s Tsvieat’s apart with ease, the best survive the weak perish the rule of DG, they fight constantly to be the best.



Restrictor pwn’s Azul with no effort catching his hand and freezing him in place, it is also explained that Soldier is but a pebble in the path to becomeing a DG Tsveit, so Zack Angeal Genesis Sephiroth only achived a small part of something much greater.



Nero the sable was infused in the womb like Weiss and Sephiroth with stagnant mako similar to the Jeanova project and it consumed and killed the mother upon giveing birth, Weiss is the strongest DG Tsveit there is but his power and strenth are being restrained and he has a virus that will kill him within 3 day’s if he was to disobey Restrictor (witch he douse anyway lol) so if Weiss is still regarded as the strongest with full knolage of Sephiroth’s existence then how can he be the best and Weiss power had to be restrained it was so great hmmm?



Rosso is immortal and is an experiment to bring out the full potential of humanity hence being so fast, Restrictor still own’s her in no time at all proveing he is on par with Cloud atleast who maneged to fight her of without a surffichant win.



Weiss is restricted and confined at the bottom of the shinra building reactor, he is even confident enough to fight Restrictor without weapon’s, and he master’s his GunBlade’s upon lifting them up.



Here Weiss beat’s Azul and Russo with one blow each then fight’s their full power (transformed/and 3 Rosso) with one arm without breaking a sweat and this is all before Omega Weiss showing he truely is leaug’s ubove Cloud atleast.



Weiss resist’s restrictor stateing he will be a goner if his restriction’s are growing weaker on him, also it was Vice Plan to make your charicter want to kill Restrictor for him (basicaly only tsveit’s can challenge Weiss so he had her climb the ladder so he could be free) quight smart really.





With no materia just pysical power’s Weiss has shown more speed and strenth than Sephiroth in AC nevermind CC (witch dousent appear a whole lot different, Sephiroth can’t avoid Omni-Slash witch is After Image fast so is Weiss also Weiss beat 3 Rosso AND Azul transformed in base form Cloud FOUGHT of 1 Rosso your point (mine is Weiss can beat Sephiroth due to this reason and thus forth so can Chaos for sure).







Vincent never even seemed like he was trying against Bahamut Sin he jumped all over it and it couldent even touch him...and what’s more he never even used Chaos

Cloud fought her of he did not defeat her she killed herself rather than allow Vincent the houner what douse that tell you try again please sir...

I dunno were Avolanch fighting for 2 hour’s seemed like 7 min’s to me...and Cloud did no better beside’s Limit Break’s...and he needed their help to take the win in the first place lol and ur forgeting they were weaker in AC.

Cloud need’s to be at his limit to use OmniSlash like he was with Sephiroth it’s a last chance manuvere and with no knollage of Nero Cloud is dead meat, Azul would tear him apart tranceformed plus he is stronger than Loz was and he gave Cloud a hard time, and Rosso can duplicate herself 3 time’s to kill Cloud and move so fast she is unditected.

And Weiss owe’s Cloud nothing so Arrogance isn’t a factor here he is the Strongest DG Tsveit Soldier and to get that he beat all the rest meaning he is the best meaning Cloud is nothing to him who struggled fighting Rosso ferociously were as Weiss toyed with 3 of her and Azul without breaking a sweat.

Yes Cloud fought Sephiroth wooptie do he still dousent compare to Sephiroth’s level tho so it’s erelivent.

LMAO Omega was killed by a kamikaze that quake’s earth (one attack lol) that’s like me saying Sephiroth was hit 15 time’s by Omni-Slash in VII but in AC he is hit only six so he is weaker...but no that’s not true Ruby was nearly immune to physical attack with it’s body so Omni-Slash did jack shit however Omega the strongest weapon with the strongest body surpasses even that so go figure i mean it only took the WHOLE Life Stream lol.









Look if Sephiroth was giveing his all he would be slower and less powerful than the DG Tsveit Soldier’s correct due to their superior feat’s but if he was holding back it make’s sence why nothing would be ubove him.

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20 Feb 2008 12:37 pm
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Stop posting videos damnit, I’ve seen them. I’m gonna reply later as I feel sick right now.
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yea well seeing is beliveing my freind like saying Cloud beat Rosso and showing it are entirely different, and saying seph is the strongest rather than showing it are aswell so good luck with that^^, oh sorry ur ill old chap
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Why can’t he hit something intangible he can stand on the lifestream, he can drain mako from other being’s even harness his own Mako Feild so why would this be different, how can Sephiroth hold Chaos who broke free from Omega’s body broke through Omega’s barrior and had enough power to destroy Omega’s body completely (not to mention deny Nero’s darkness) have any trouble breaking through Seph’s teleknisis?

Do you know what intangible means? Chaos goes straight through him, if Chaos hit Sephiroth then it wouldn’t be intangibilty now would it? Stand on the lifestream? Mako has nothing to do with intangibilty. A barrier has nothing to do with telekenisis, telekenisis isn’t a barrier. If Sephrioth can bend life to his will, he can sure as hell bend Chaos.

Sephiroth can lift the masimune and cut rip the top side of Shinra corp off, Chaos can lift a tank turret and stop Omega from accending quakeing the planet, Omni Slash pwned Sephiroth Kamikaze pwned Chaos big differance.

Sephiroth can lift the building with his will, your point. Chaos didn’t quake tha planet, do you know what Midgar would be like if he quaked the planet? A Kamikaze doesn’t make it a more powerful attack, omnislash kills anybody as it kills the most durable.

Fighting skill...if Sephiroth can even keep up with Chaos who leave’s after image’s and move’s faster than is possible to see yea he might have a chance, but considering he was able to avoid every move Weiss made in battle moveing at those speed’s i highly doubt it, then their’s his energy ray’s that killed Azul and his Death Penalty witch withstood Weiss blade’s no problem and are way more powerful than the Cirberus that he fought Bahamut with.

Speed has nothing to do with fightning skill, running fast doesn’t make you a better fighter, and again intangibility is going to make Chaos try to hit Sephiroth forever with no success. Lol Sephiroth was moving that fast in his base form.

Well popularity gave Vincent his own title fandom demanded it, so i don’t think it matter’s how popular Cloud is when he was replaced regardless?

Fandom didn’t demand it, SE wanted to make it, big difference. Cloud is not replaced as VII’s main protagonist, you know if you said that to other peeps they’d be lolling at you.
Seph require’s a host with Jeanova Cell’s or else it take’s sometime to recreate a body from the life stream all Chaos has to do is cause Seph’s body enough damage like Cloud to beat him

Kadaj is not a host lol, Kadaj doesn’t even have a body. All Chaos is going to do is go through Sephiroth and fail.

Heck even Shelk can move Omnislash fast and she is nothing on Chaos:

Of course, Shelke could pwn Sephiroth.
Sephiroth cannot even rob Chaos Mako it’s the other way around Chaos has even demonstrated this when he robbed Azul’s Mako energy to feed himself so it’s Sephiroth sadly that would become useless from this manuvore.

It’s hard to rob energy from something that doesn’t run out of energy. Sephiroth does not have Mako, and oh yes Sephiroth just destroying the planets lifestream means nothing to you then.

Sephiroth was the strongest SOLDIER who was known about not thee strongest DG was a secret faction in shinra only few knew about if your a dark secret barly anyone know’s about you, so it was alright for the world to assume this.

The world didn’t assume it, Shinra did. Tsviets are SOLDIERS, Sephiroth is the best SOLDIER making him the best.

In DG Restrictor was the supream existence he killed Solider’s like nothing and was of a unit that was not even ment to exist the best the 14th unit, A tsveit has a triple SSS rank that’s how good they are and are the best in SOLDIER to rechive a coulour and be considered a TSVIAT there goal to be the ultimate existence, so if Sephiroth was ment to be the best yet a their is a unit even higher than the one he attained how can he still be the best?

Was meant to be and being the best are two different things, you just said the Tsviet were meant to be the best, well they aren’t.
Oh and Sephiroth is not some regular SOLDIER, don’t you know about the even amongst the elite Sephiroth is known to be the best?
Azul tear’s two young upstart’s who consider themselve’s Tsvieat’s apart with ease, the best survive the weak perish the rule of DG, they fight constantly to be the best

Fightning constantly doesn’t make you the best.
Restrictor pwn’s Azul with no effort catching his hand and freezing him in place, it is also explained that Soldier is but a pebble in the path to becomeing a DG Tsveit, so Zack Angeal Genesis Sephiroth only achived a small part of something much greater.

Oh Sephiroth is not Angeal or Genesis though.

Nero the sable was infused in the womb like Weiss and Sephiroth with stagnant mako similar to the Jeanova project and it consumed and killed the mother upon giveing birth, Weiss is the strongest DG Tsveit there is but his power and strenth are being restrained and he has a virus that will kill him within 3 day’s if he was to disobey Restrictor (witch he douse anyway lol) so if Weiss is still regarded as the strongest with full knolage of Sephiroth’s existence then how can he be the best and Weiss power had to be restrained it was so great hmmm?

Stagnant mako is nothing like being infused with Jenova cells at birth. Weiss is the strongest Tsviet, not the strongest SOLDIER.

Rosso is immortal and is an experiment to bring out the full potential of humanity hence being so fast, Restrictor still own’s her in no time at all proveing he is on par with Cloud atleast who maneged to fight her of without a surffichant win.

No she is NOT immortal. She is not on par with Cloud if she lost, sufficient win? She lost, when did you have to die to be defeated?

Weiss is restricted and confined at the bottom of the shinra building reactor, he is even confident enough to fight Restrictor without weapon’s, and he master’s his GunBlade’s upon lifting them up.

Shame he didn’t duel Sephiroth.

Here Weiss beat’s Azul and Russo with one blow each then fight’s their full power (transformed/and 3 Rosso) with one arm without breaking a sweat and this is all before Omega Weiss showing he truely is leaug’s ubove Cloud atleast.

And you think Cloud couldn’t beat Rosso and Azul? Hahahahahahahahaha They get beaten by Vincent. Weiss with Omega being his bitch still dies to omnislash.
With no materia just pysical power’s Weiss has shown more speed and strenth than Sephiroth in AC nevermind CC (witch dousent appear a whole lot different, Sephiroth can’t avoid Omni-Slash witch is After Image fast so is Weiss also Weiss beat 3 Rosso AND Azul transformed in base form Cloud FOUGHT of 1 Rosso your point (mine is Weiss can beat Sephiroth due to this reason and thus forth so can Chaos for sure).
The ferocioiusly part kind means Cloud beat her badly you know.
Vincent never even seemed like he was trying against Bahamut Sin he jumped all over it and it couldent even touch him...and what’s more he never even used Chaos


Hyperbole, and Chaos is not Vincent.
Cloud fought her of he did not defeat her she killed herself rather than allow Vincent the houner what douse that tell you try again please sir...

And you think killing someone is the only way to defeat them. Try again.

I dunno were Avolanch fighting for 2 hour’s seemed like 7 min’s to me...and Cloud did no better beside’s Limit Break’s...and he needed their help to take the win in the first place lol and ur forgeting they were weaker in AC.


Read the UO/Reunion Files. They’re actually described as superhuman in AC.

Cloud need’s to be at his limit to use OmniSlash like he was with Sephiroth it’s a last chance manuvere and with no knollage of Nero Cloud is dead meat, Azul would tear him apart tranceformed plus he is stronger than Loz was and he gave Cloud a hard time, and Rosso can duplicate herself 3 time’s to kill Cloud and move so fast she is unditected.

Wow didn’t he do limit breaks willingfully? Cloud doesn’t have to know Nero, Cloud doesnt fuck about. Azul is not stronger than Loz, Azul got beaten by Vincnet, and Rosso loses badly, read the ferociously part.

Yes Cloud fought Sephiroth wooptie do he still dousent compare to Sephiroth’s level tho so it’s erelivent.

How is it irrelavant when he keeps up with the best?

Weiss owe’s Cloud nothing so Arrogance isn’t a factor here he is the Strongest DG Tsveit Soldier and to get that he beat all the rest meaning he is the best meaning Cloud is nothing to him who struggled fighting Rosso ferociously were as Weiss toyed with 3 of her and Azul without breaking a sweat.

You can’t struggle if you figh someone off ferociously, you didn’t even see the battle so stop saying Cloud struggled. Oh hahaha hyperbole.

LMAO Omega was killed by a kamikaze that quake’s earth (one attack lol) that’s like me saying Sephiroth was hit 15 time’s by Omni-Slash in VII but in AC he is hit only six so he is weaker...but no that’s not true Ruby was nearly immune to physical attack with it’s body so Omni-Slash did jack shit however Omega the strongest weapon with the strongest body surpasses even that so go figure i mean it only took the WHOLE Life Stream lol.

Lmao by your logic Omega is wank as it only takes one attack to kill, and it didnt quake the earth. You actually said VII > AC Omnislash before so there you go. You can’t use game mechannics. So stop this immunity thing, do you see numbers above Omegas and Sephiroth’s head when they die? Actually if omnislash kill Sephiroth it kills omega, you still cliing to the fact that Sephiroth is not the most powerful, it didn’t actually take the whole lifestream, it didn’t even start, you know if it did, everyone would be dead, oh and Sephiroth is stronger than the planets lifestream, every wonder why he pops back up all the time when he should be dead.
Look if Sephiroth was giveing his all he would be slower and less powerful than the DG Tsveit Soldier’s correct due to their superior feat’s but if he was holding back it make’s sence why nothing would be ubove him.

Thanx for ur time good sir^^

He didn’t use his spiritual abilities, that doesn’t mean his intent on killing Cloud has lessened.

Look dude I’m beyond caring anymore, you obviously think SE lie about their characters and whatever I’m out, have fun trying to conviince people that Weiss and co could beat Sephiroth. Bye
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