Kyle Knight wrote: Ohh and news just in AC and its UO were released 9th of september 2005 DoC was released 26th of january 2006 that is two and a half months differance like i said outdatted.
That gives SE two months to make DoC, are you being rediculous?
1. So onward with the debate then?
I don’t really care because you’ve shown you ignore pretty much everything I say anyway.
And another thing, if Weiss really does have Jenova cells, then he’s already lost to Sephiroth.
2. Yes they were in the story but not evryone was able to collect Yuffie and Vincent meaning if they suddenly appeared out of th blue in the end sequence the fans would be left confused as to who they were just showing they wernt presant during the final confrontation with Sephiroth, and therefore shows he was never pwned by Sephiroth or had a chance to use Chaos on him.
They’re main characters, so therefore in the story. You’re saying they’re in the story but they aren’t?
here is proof They both dident appar in the end sequence.
I know they weren’t shown in the actual footage, but they were still apart of avalanche and very much apart of the story. And why are you showing me XIII’s ending for? As if Yuffie is gonna be there 500 years later LOL.
3. Patiance my freind just explaining why they wernt their is all Vincent went to finish Hojo but Meteor hit, and Yuffie was helping stragglers (Vincent tells her to go meet up with Cloud but she stays and helps him escape the Mako Cannon.
But how do you know that they didn’t fight Sephiroth and the leave before Cloud too him on?
4. It works on a basis that Sephiroth has never pwned Vincent or fought his true power before that is what it has to do with the debate.
So Vincent wasn’t a part of the story then?
5. The backround is completely immersed in Darkness leaveing the wereabouts unknown, i agree Seph had become stronger since Crisis Core that is a given but it could have been Jeanova Sephie witch he had been controlling since wipeing out the Shinra corperation?
Not when it shows the gang AND Vincent, the background was green.
It was no Jenova Sephiroth, because 1: Jenova was already defeated and 2: that battle was a sprirtual battle, so no Jenova and even if it was, it would have been under Sephiroth’s influence.
I realise Vincent and Co crossed paths with Sephie on many occations during VII hence Marlene saying there were many battles but notice after she says that it shows Cloud putting Airith in the lake, each scene is in order of occurance as it happened in the game in that opening meaning that fight they all had with Sephiroth was when Airith was killed and Vincent had just been awaken.
When she says alot of battles she refers to the battles throughout the game. What the hell? Aeris gets killed WAY before they fight Sephiroth, I don’t where you got that from. And no it’s not in order sequence at all. Because why would the sister ray at midgar be shown before they show Sephiroth in the fire and the scene with Jenova?
So it was most likely Jeanova being manipulated by Sephiroth.
That wasn’t Sephiroth they fought, it was a part of Jenova.
6. Im marely building a case there are more feats to come but i want actual footage for backing if you get me?, would be nice if you did the same kk
Have you seen AC? If so then I don’t need footage to back me up if you’ve seen it, like I don’t need footage of DoC because I’ve played the game.
a, Dodgeing a missile and its explossive range at point blank like that is harder than avoiding a bullet or a bolt of lightning (whats harder to avoid a granade at point blank or a bullet from a distance)?
One, the missiles were NOT at point blank range, the canon/grenade wasn’t put at his head, and missiles are easier to see than bullets, but lets not get picky eh? And sorry to inform you but missiles are not faster than lightning, lightinig travels 100,000 miles an hour or nearly 300 miles a second. Missiles travel about 6000 METREs not miles a second.
b, This isnt so much showing of strenth but accuracy while flying through the air and the power of his weapon kk (strenth feats will come).
Vincent can’t fly anymore than Cloud can, because neither of them can, they can just do insane jumps.
Nice feats but post proof to back them so we know what each is capable of kk.
I need to prove Sephiroth can do the feats he displays? That doesn’t make sense.
Basically Nero the Sable was injected in the womb with a stagnent Mako strrain witch killed his mother at birth an experiment born from the Jeanova Project it gives the user the ability to take his opponents into a dark dimention a sort of void were the opponents mind becomes unhinged and eventualy crushed by the darkness surrounding them.
Vincent is able to sheild Yuffie from its effects because he holds greater darkness within him (Chaos) and takes on Nero in his own domain in his most powerful state.
Feats:
a, withstanding Neros Darkness
b, Defeating Nero in Dark Dimention
Actually, Nero isn’t that much of a fighter, without his darkness any Tsviet would beat him, and *sighs* Nero’s darkenss doesn’t work on Sephiroth because Sephiroth has the most powerful will. Sephiroth has willed his complelty destroyed body back to near perfection.
A few things to note here, feats mostly go to Weiss in this regard but important information is also Given regarding Vincent and DG.
a, DG Houses the strongest beings on the planet as stated by Hojo and came directly from SE.
Did Hojo say it or did SE say it? Because there’s a big difference, oh and I like how you’re using SE to back you claims when I showed you that Sephiroth is the most powerfullest but you rejected it.
Hojo also thought Cloud was a failure, he thought the clones would move to the Shinra building, he thought Jenova was the on pulling the strings, so his statement isn’t rreally valid, if you can give me SE proof then I’ll just show you the Sephiroth proof.
Due to Hojos experiments Vincent can metamorph (tranceform) into verious beasts of shape shift as it were makeing him ideal to house Chaos.
I knew this from VII, why are you telling me this for?
a, Weiss knocks Vincents bullets from the air with little effort with his BARE hands (and they take down numourus aircraft)
b, Weiss slashes Vincents bullets from an inch in front of him like it was nothing.
c, Weiss also demonstrates strenth impailing Nero with his hand and tossing him several feat with one arm.
d, Weiss downs Vincent with a simple kick.
You’re only making Vincent look bad here.
a. Are we talking about Weiss or Vincent here?
b. It wasn’t an inch, do you know how big and inch is? Omfg Cloud was blocking bullets like at the same distance (which is more like a yard or two in both Weiss’s and Cloud’s case) while riding a bike.
c. Sephiroth sends Cloud into the shinra building, slices the falling bit into peices.
d. Stop making Vincent look bad lmao.
This one is rather good for both Vincent Chaos and Weiss,
feats,
a, Weiss moves so fast he timeslows right down practicaly flicks debis out of the air at Vincent.
b, Vincent calls on the power of Chaos from within forgeing his own Mako Feild around himself and Weiss (Mako equals MP and an infinate supply to call upon generateing your own feild).
c, Vincent useing Chaos can easily avoid both the debris Weiss shoots at him and all of his sword attacks, he also shows impressive speed upon the final slash when he dodges it takes some time for the debris to fall after he has jumped.
well thats it for now will bring more soon hopeu find yours kk.
I thought this was Vincent, not Chaos? Why are you using Chaos’s aumentations to Vincent?
a. He flicks debris, that’s not the same as bullets.
b. Mako is not your MP. When does it say Mako=MP?
c. I’ll stress again, debris aren’t shot out of a barrel
Oh and Vincent isn’t indestructable, he’s 'near indestructable.