| 24 Nov 2007 12:20 pm |
Ace Kishaw Guest | Big Daddy V wrote:
The thing is is that Undertaker cannot be defeated at WrestleMania,I believe in my catogory that the Tombstone is
a more effective move than a Jackhammer.Heck even Kane is using it,and that is the move he used to defeat Snitsky at New Years Revolution 2005.I still say that the Tombstone can take Goldberg out,Goldberg couldn’t get up when Kevin Nash used the power bomb on Goldberg...and the Undertaker has a similar move remember-Last Ride
Yeah i dig that but remember Kane is Undertaker’s
half brother and that is why he is using the Tombstone Piledriver.Kane’s original finishing move is the CHOKESLAM which he is still using,and
Undertaker copied that move from Kane.Even wrestlers are using this move,wrestlers like the Big Show.Yes I know Goldberg would loose if he fought Undertaker at Wrestlemania simply because Undertaker is scripted to win-pure and simple.If Goldberg fought the Undertaker at another main event like Backlash or Summerslam then Goldberg would beat the dead man.Brock Lesnar already beat
Undertaker in Hell in a Cell at No Mercy 2002, and Goldberg already beat Brock Lesnar at Wrestlemania XX or 20 even after he used the F5 (the move that took the Undertaker down for the count).
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| 25 Nov 2007 11:58 am |
Big Daddy V Guest | Flipp dude can you please stop bringing Brock Lesnar into this matter,I know he already beat Undertaker at No Mercy 2002 and lost to Goldberg at Wresltemania XX.Undertaker for
Christ’s sake is only a human,his not Spiderman or something and its natural that he looses-like what every wrestler from time to time does...regardless the fact on how tough they are.Brock Lesnar is a very tough competitor,
a 295 pound monster with great speed and stamina unlike wrestlers like Batista and Bobby Lashley.It is natural for Brock Lesnar to beat Undertaker because he himself is a tough 3 time World Heavy Weight Champion.Goldberg also looses in matches like the Undertaker,he already lost to HHH at Summerslam 2003 and Undertaker already defeated HHH at Wrestlemania.
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| 26 Nov 2007 05:26 am |
Ace Kishaw Guest | Big Daddy V wrote:
Flipp dude can you please stop bringing Brock Lesnar into this matter,I know he already beat Undertaker at No Mercy 2002 and lost to Goldberg at Wresltemania XX.Undertaker for
Christ’s sake is only a human,his not Spiderman or something and its natural that he looses-like what every wrestler from time to time does...regardless the fact on how tough they are.Brock Lesnar is a very tough competitor,
a 295 pound monster with great speed and stamina unlike wrestlers like Batista and Bobby Lashley.It is natural for Brock Lesnar to beat Undertaker because he himself is a tough 3 time World Heavy Weight Champion.Goldberg also looses in matches like the Undertaker,he already lost to HHH at Summerslam 2003 and Undertaker already defeated HHH at Wrestlemania.
Undertaker wins matches at WrestleMania simply because he is scripted to win,I thought I made myself very clear on saying that.I told already that the only reason why HHH beat Goldberg at Summerslam 2003 in the Elimination Chamber is simply because the GAME used a SLEDGEHAMMER to beat Goldberg!!!Does that make any sense to you?
Goldberg has fought the entire Evolution himself on Raw,and what about the Undertaker? He struggles with the FBI on Smackdown.
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| 27 Nov 2007 03:20 am |
Big Daddy V Guest | The FBI is a very tough team,just put away Nunzio like you can put away Rick Flair in Evolution.Lets live it to Randy Orton and Batista vs Chuck Polumbo and Johnny Stambully
“The Bull”...trust me you’ll find out why Undertaker struggles with the FBI.Now back to Goldberg and Undertaker.
SLEDGEHAMMER?
I know what a sledgehammer is!! You treat Goldberg like as if you need a sledgehammer to beat him,I’ve seen many wrestlers beat Goldberg without using a sledgehammer or even a steel chair.The point on why I used the comparison on who has more moves than the other is simply because who ever has more moves has a better advantage.Undertaker has 3
moves while Goldberg has only one-Jackhammer...and please don’t argue here with me because Goldberg has never defeated anyone using a spear.Undertaker has 3 moves and he
is likely to beat Goldberg using either one of them... especially the tombstone
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| 28 Nov 2007 02:46 am |
Ace Kishaw Guest | Big Daddy V wrote:
The FBI is a very tough team,just put away Nunzio like you can put away Rick Flair in Evolution.Lets live it to Randy Orton and Batista vs Chuck Polumbo and Johnny Stambully
“The Bull”...trust me you’ll find out why Undertaker struggles with the FBI.Now back to Goldberg and Undertaker.
SLEDGEHAMMER?
I know what a sledgehammer is!! You treat Goldberg like as if you need a sledgehammer to beat him,I’ve seen many wrestlers beat Goldberg without using a sledgehammer or even a steel chair.The point on why I used the comparison on who has more moves than the other is simply because who ever has more moves has a better advantage.Undertaker has 3
moves while Goldberg has only one-Jackhammer...and please don’t argue here with me because Goldberg has never defeated anyone using a spear.Undertaker has 3 moves and he
is likely to beat Goldberg using either one of them... especially the tombstone
Yes he is and Goldberg is likely to beat Undertaker using the Jackhammer-no wrestler in the plannet has ever kicked out of this move. Hey
after all the F-5 has taken out the Undertaker by
Brock Lesnar who was defeated by Goldberg even after Goldberg recieved an F5.I doubt it if the chokeslam or even the last ride would take Goldberg out,even though the tombstone would.
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| 28 Nov 2007 09:07 am |
Big Daddy V Guest | Well I think the chokeslam will take out Goldberg,why?
Because Kane took out Goldberg with the chokeslam and no this didn’t happen on Raw it happened at Amergeddon 2003.
It was Goldberg versus HHH versus Kane in a tripple threat match for the World Heavy Championship.Kane chokeslamed Goldberg,then HHH as usual picked up the scraps and went for the cover after Goldberg was chokeslamed.And this footage is in Dailymotion,type the Goldberg vs Kane and you’ll get the video.Undertaker has a chokeslam move that has taken out Chuck Polumbo,Mark Henry,Big Show and even Brock Lesnar.If Kane can take out Goldberg with a chokeslam
then Undertaker as well can do the same.
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| 29 Nov 2007 03:15 am |
Ace Kishaw Guest | Big Daddy V wrote:
Well I think the chokeslam will take out Goldberg,why?
Because Kane took out Goldberg with the chokeslam and no this didn’t happen on Raw it happened at Amergeddon 2003.
It was Goldberg versus HHH versus Kane in a tripple threat match for the World Heavy Championship.Kane chokeslamed Goldberg,then HHH as usual picked up the scraps and went for the cover after Goldberg was chokeslamed.And this footage is in Dailymotion,type the Goldberg vs Kane and you’ll get the video.Undertaker has a chokeslam move that has taken out Chuck Polumbo,Mark Henry,Big Show and even Brock Lesnar.If Kane can take out Goldberg with a chokeslam
then Undertaker as well can do the same.
Look I agree wit ya kid that the Undertaker is at
a better advantage if you look at the finishing moves.But Undertaker despite having all dese cool
moves he still gets beat,he gets beaton by the likes of Brock Lesnar who only has one move which
is the F5 (sorry for bringing this guy as an example cause i know i irratate the shit lights out of ya).Despite Goldberg being at a slight advantage,he still does outclass the Undertaker in terms of speed,durability,agility,reflexes and
strenght even though Goldberg himself weights 280
pounds and Undertaker weights 305pounds.
Ammergedon 2003 surpised me as well when Goldberg
lost to a chokeslam in a tripple threat match involving also Tripple H and Kane.But that match was more like of a handicap match then a tripple threat match because Kane and HHH (since they were villians in Raw) targeting poor Goldberg.
Only towards the end of the match did Kane start to trade punches with HHH,and that was a very long main event.Undertaker may have a chance with
the Tombstone and even the chokeslam,but not the Last Ride since he hardly uses it.
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| 01 Dec 2007 03:29 am |
Big Daddy V Guest | My man Undertaker uses strategy and that is why he hardly uses the Last Ride,if he wants to he can.And that move has taken the likes of Mark Henry,Brock Lesnar and John Cena naming a few.I agree Goldberg does outclass Undertaker in strength and even speed,but not durability,agility and reflexes I don’t think so.Goldberg does not have agility and reflexes,those are a wrestlers performance you can give
to Rey Mesterio or Shelton Benjamin.And lastly you say the Last Ride won’t have effect on Goldberg (a move that took out Brock Lesnar)?
On Raw Kevin Nash delivered a powerbomb (a move that Undertaker uses)on Goldberg as a revenge for Goldberg giving Kevin a spear-accidently.Kevin Nash’s powerbomb is just exactly the same move as the Undertaker,but the only difference between the two is that names of their finishing
moves are different.Just similar to Brock Lesnar’s F5 and John Cena’s FU,if Undertaker delivered a Last Ride on Goldberg then Goldberg would be doing what he did after recieving a powerbomb from Kevin Nash.
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| 06 Feb 2008 11:02 am |
Ace Kishaw Guest | Wow Big Daddy it looks like we left this topic high
and dry,let’s continue the spark shall we?
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| 06 Feb 2008 11:58 am |
Regular Rep: 6  Joined: 28 Jan 2008 Posts: 352 OFFLINE | undertaker is the best
besides bill goldberg arm broke so he is of no use 2 wwe or smackdown
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| 06 Feb 2008 01:07 pm |
Big Daddy V Guest | Ace Kishaw wrote:
Wow Big Daddy it looks like we left this topic high
and dry,let’s continue the spark shall we?
Lead the way...
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| 06 Feb 2008 04:06 pm |
シス卿 Rep: 87 Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 31,404 OFFLINE | The Undertaker would win in the battle. For a man who is 15-0 at Wrestlemania, he is a legend. Bill Goldberg is a ripoff of Stone Cold just like this guy, Shark Boy
damn posers.
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| 06 Feb 2008 09:28 pm |
Lord of the Underworld Rep: 49 Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 11,033 OFFLINE | Ace Kishaw wrote:
Big Daddy V wrote:
Ok tell me,why would Goldberg defeat the Undertaker? And I’m talking about the all versions of the Undertaker (Big Evil,Dead Man,the Pheonam)
Ok you got me in a tight corner here if your talkin about the all versions of the Undertaker.
Fine why don’t you tell me on how Undertaker would defeat GOLDBERG and if you provide enough proof i’ll gladly tell ya on why Golderg should win here.
Goldberg lost in a real fight against Chris Jericho. Not saying he is weak but Jericho isn’t the biggest man in the buisness. He was cruiserwieght then I believe.
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| 07 Feb 2008 09:56 am |
Ace Kishaw Guest | ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Ace Kishaw wrote:
Big Daddy V wrote:
Ok tell me,why would Goldberg defeat the Undertaker? And I’m talking about the all versions of the Undertaker (Big Evil,Dead Man,the Pheonam)
Ok you got me in a tight corner here if your talkin about the all versions of the Undertaker.
Fine why don’t you tell me on how Undertaker would defeat GOLDBERG and if you provide enough proof i’ll gladly tell ya on why Golderg should win here.
Goldberg lost in a real fight against Chris Jericho. Not saying he is weak but Jericho isn’t the biggest man in the buisness. He was cruiserwieght then I believe.
And the Undertaker lost to dat wimp Mr.Kennedy at
the Survivor Series 2007.And no ya don’t look like a tree hugger.
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| 07 Feb 2008 03:10 pm |
Ace Kishaw Guest | Big Daddy V wrote:
Ace Kishaw wrote:
Wow Big Daddy it looks like we left this topic high
and dry,let’s continue the spark shall we?
Lead the way...
Shall we continue?
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| 08 Feb 2008 09:32 am |
Big Daddy V Guest | Ace Kishaw wrote:
Big Daddy V wrote:
Ace Kishaw wrote:
Wow Big Daddy it looks like we left this topic high
and dry,let’s continue the spark shall we?
Lead the way...
Shall we continue?
I’m waiting for you
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| 08 Feb 2008 02:06 pm |
Ace Kishaw Guest | No laddies first...
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| 08 Feb 2008 02:46 pm |
Big Daddy V Guest | Ace Kishaw wrote:
No laddies first...
And cows last...
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| 08 Feb 2008 03:34 pm |
Lord of the Underworld Rep: 49Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 11,033 OFFLINE | Ace Kishaw wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Ace Kishaw wrote:
Big Daddy V wrote:
Ok tell me,why would Goldberg defeat the Undertaker? And I’m talking about the all versions of the Undertaker (Big Evil,Dead Man,the Pheonam)
Ok you got me in a tight corner here if your talkin about the all versions of the Undertaker.
Fine why don’t you tell me on how Undertaker would defeat GOLDBERG and if you provide enough proof i’ll gladly tell ya on why Golderg should win here.
Goldberg lost in a real fight against Chris Jericho. Not saying he is weak but Jericho isn’t the biggest man in the buisness. He was cruiserwieght then I believe.
And the Undertaker lost to dat wimp Mr.Kennedy at
the Survivor Series 2007.And no ya don’t look like a tree hugger.
I’m not talking about staged performances. I’m talking a real fight
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| 09 Feb 2008 09:15 am |
Ace Kishaw Guest | ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Ace Kishaw wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Ace Kishaw wrote:
Big Daddy V wrote:
Ok tell me,why would Goldberg defeat the Undertaker? And I’m talking about the all versions of the Undertaker (Big Evil,Dead Man,the Pheonam)
Ok you got me in a tight corner here if your talkin about the all versions of the Undertaker.
Fine why don’t you tell me on how Undertaker would defeat GOLDBERG and if you provide enough proof i’ll gladly tell ya on why Golderg should win here.
Goldberg lost in a real fight against Chris Jericho. Not saying he is weak but Jericho isn’t the biggest man in the buisness. He was cruiserwieght then I believe.
And the Undertaker lost to dat wimp Mr.Kennedy at
the Survivor Series 2007.And no ya don’t look like a tree hugger.
I’m not talking about staged performances. I’m talking a real fight
So am I
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