Big Daddy V wrote:
My man Undertaker uses strategy and that is why he hardly uses the Last Ride,if he wants to he can.And that move has taken the likes of Mark Henry,Brock Lesnar and John Cena naming a few.I agree Goldberg does outclass Undertaker in strength and even speed,but not durability,agility and reflexes I don’t think so.Goldberg does not have agility and reflexes,those are a wrestlers performance you can give
to Rey Mesterio or Shelton Benjamin.And lastly you say the Last Ride won’t have effect on Goldberg (a move that took out Brock Lesnar)?
On Raw Kevin Nash delivered a powerbomb (a move that Undertaker uses)on Goldberg as a revenge for Goldberg giving Kevin a spear-accidently.Kevin Nash’s powerbomb is just exactly the same move as the Undertaker,but the only difference between the two is that names of their finishing
moves are different.Just similar to Brock Lesnar’s F5 and John Cena’s FU,if Undertaker delivered a Last Ride on Goldberg then Goldberg would be doing what he did after recieving a powerbomb from Kevin Nash.
OK Ryo we are moving on!!! Big Daddy,ya seem to forget that already Goldberg already faced Kevin Nash and that move wasn’t enough to take out Goldberg.Goldberg even took out the Big Show himself using the Jackhammer on the 500pound gaint.Could Undertaker use a chokeslam,tombstone
and Last Ride on the Big Show?
Come on Ace you’ve got to give Undertaker more credit than that.He has chokeslamed and tombstoned a 390pound Mark Henry on several occassions.I don’t think the Big Show is going to be that much of a difference and by the way,the Undertaker faced Brock Lesnar and the Big Show in a handicap match and pinned the Big Show by chokeslaming him from the top rope.
At Wrestlemania he faced the Big Show and A-Train in a handicap match and defeated both of them.Undertaker has faced Big Show on more occassions than Goldberg and if I remember correctly Goldberg lost his title to Keven Nash.
B-D-V wrote:
Come on Ace you’ve got to give Undertaker more credit than that.He has chokeslamed and tombstoned a 390pound Mark Henry on several occassions.I don’t think the Big Show is going to be that much of a difference and by the way,the Undertaker faced Brock Lesnar and the Big Show in a handicap match and pinned the Big Show by chokeslaming him from the top rope.
At Wrestlemania he faced the Big Show and A-Train in a handicap match and defeated both of them.Undertaker has faced Big Show on more occassions than Goldberg and if I remember correctly Goldberg lost his title to Keven Nash.
Yeah Ace digs dat,Goldberg lost to Kevin nash because he was screwed out of the title.
Goldberg was setting up for a spear late in the match when Hall, who was still a member of nWo Hollywood at the time, shocked Goldberg with a taser while he was in the corner.
Ok so Goldberg had a raw deal but you treat him like as if
the only way he can be pinned is by using weapons like sledgehammers or tasers.It’s like as if your saying he can’t be beat by a finishing move and that is not true
B-D-V wrote:
Ok so Goldberg had a raw deal but you treat him like as if
the only way he can be pinned is by using weapons like sledgehammers or tasers.It’s like as if your saying he can’t be beat by a finishing move and that is not true
Dat ain’t wat I ment,sure Goldberg can be beaton with a finishing move just like when he was chokeslamed by Kane and HHH went for the cover beating Goldberg and winning the World Heavy Title.But Goldberg loosing to from finishing moves is rare,like for example he kicked out from
Brock Lesnar’s F5 with ease but when it was the Undertaker who recieved the F5 theres was no kicking out.
How many times do I have to tell you he lost to Brock Lesnar because he was screwed by the WWE chairman Vince and
the FBI.At Unforgiven 2002 the match was a draw and in Smackdown he defeated Big Show and Brock Lesnar in a tripple threat beating Brock Lesnar with a Last Ride.Not to
mention he beat both of them in a handicap match on a number of occassions being screwed by Paul Hayman.
B-D-V wrote:
How many times do I have to tell you he lost to Brock Lesnar because he was screwed by the WWE chairman Vince and
the FBI.At Unforgiven 2002 the match was a draw and in Smackdown he defeated Big Show and Brock Lesnar in a tripple threat beating Brock Lesnar with a Last Ride.Not to
mention he beat both of them in a handicap match on a number of occassions being screwed by Paul Hayman.
I aint talkin about Unforgiven 2002,I’m talking about No Mercy 2002 Hell in a Cell.There were no interruptions in that match-it was Brock Lesnar and the Undertaker at it with Paul Haymen outside
the cage.Undertaker tried to Tombstone Brock and Lesnar countered it into an F5 in which he pinned
Undertaker.Brock Lesnar won that match fair and square just like Goldberg won the title back at Unforgiven 2003 against HHH.
Big Daddy V wrote:
That is because at No Mercy 2003,the FBI interfeared the match and helped Brock Lesnar win.Goldberg himself lost to HHH for the Championship and HHH is less smaller and stronger than Brock Lesnar.Undertaker pinned HHH in Wrestlemainer,and Goldberg couldn’t beat HHH.Undertaker would beat Goldberg,its just that he aint strong as him.
“K',HHH is smaller than Brock Lesnar and has defeated Goldberg.Correction:that only happpened because HHH had Evolution to back him up,and in Summerslam 2003 The Elimination Chamber everyone was out to get Goldberg since he was champion.
HHH pinned Goldberg by hitting him with a sledge hammer because it was simple that the pedigree couldn’t get Goldberg down for the count.And since we are on this Goldberg vs HHH,Goldberg had
a rematch.
At Unforgiven,Goldberg had a last title shot against HHH-it was a winner takes it all situation.Goldberg defeated HHH even when HHH landed the pedigree on Goldberg.At Survivor Series as well,HHH had a rematch and he lost.All these events happened in the year 2003.
You see,just like Undertaker,Goldberg himself defeated HHH and the only difference here is that
Undertaker beat HHH once at Wrestlemania while Goldberg (since he was enemies with HHH) defeated
HHH twice in Unforgiven 2003 and Survivor Series 2003.As well as a few couple of episode matches on Raw.
It wasn’t only at WrestleMania Undertaker defeated HHH,I think they had a rematch at Vengence or Backlash and Undertaker still won.The
reason I’m bringing this up is because you say that HHH lost to the Undertaker at Wrestlemania because he was scripted,but at Vengence or Backlash he still lost.Was that scripted?
The undertaker and Goldberg are my favoriote wrestlers of all time i consider them both number 1’s goldberg #1 in wcw and undertaker #1 in the wwe goldberg has the greatest record in wrestling history as far as matches goes and undertaker has the greatest wrestlemania record of all time both with deadly moves goldberg with the jackhammer and undertaker with the tombstone i would love to see both men goldberg and undertaker go one on one at wrestlemania that will be the greatest match ever in wrestling history with the greatest wrestlers of all time fighting in it thats worth billions and who do u think would win ???????????
I say:Goldberg would win but then again i think that taker could be the man to hang with him no arguments its what i think so dont get mad.
Goldberg clean’s house like no other Undertaker is used to one on one Goldberg is 6 to one most fight’s so against one man Goldberg will have a feild day “FEAR THE MACHINE”!!!
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