This is so massively pathetic. It’s simply the narutards desperately trying to defeat Dragonball in any way they can. Goku can move behind Itachi in an instant, he is FAR too fast for Itachi to blink. Look at his battle against Burter and Jeece, Goku will be behind Itachi in less then a milisecond. No WAY does he have time to use the eyes and besides your all totally forgetting that psychic mind alteration techniques don’t work on people of that power level (see early Dragonball, Nappa/Vegeta’s arrival, Frieza VS Goku, Babidi VS Piccolo, Majinn Vegeta issue, Super Buu VS Vegetto) No way in hell someone as low level in terms of psychic control as Itachi can do anything to Goku.
But all of this is completely moot, Goku Vanishing Attacks Itachi the second the fight bell rings, splattering his androygenous ass all over the arena. Game, set, match.
And yes Krillin is far superior to Lee. FFS Lee couldn’t even break through Kimimaro’s bones (which were nothing more then condensed calcium and marrow- that’s nowhere near as strong as a bulletproof vest), childhood Gohan (Raditz fight) could end Lee just by getting pissed off, and Krillin easily surpasses him by end of Frieza saga. Lee, even with the gates all opened, is maybe a 500 power level tops. Even Jump Fiesta and Ultimate Stars rank all Naruto characters below Dragonball characters in terms of power.
Biggs wrote:
This is so massively pathetic. It’s simply the narutards desperately trying to defeat Dragonball in any way they can. Goku can move behind Itachi in an instant, he is FAR too fast for Itachi to blink. Look at his battle against Burter and Jeece, Goku will be behind Itachi in less then a milisecond. No WAY does he have time to use the eyes and besides your all totally forgetting that psychic mind alteration techniques don’t work on people of that power level (see early Dragonball, Nappa/Vegeta’s arrival, Frieza VS Goku, Babidi VS Piccolo, Majinn Vegeta issue, Super Buu VS Vegetto) No way in hell someone as low level in terms of psychic control as Itachi can do anything to Goku.
But all of this is completely moot, Goku Vanishing Attacks Itachi the second the fight bell rings, splattering his androygenous ass all over the arena. Game, set, match.
And yes Krillin is far superior to Lee. FFS Lee couldn’t even break through Kimimaro’s bones (which were nothing more then condensed calcium and marrow- that’s nowhere near as strong as a bulletproof vest), childhood Gohan (Raditz fight) could end Lee just by getting pissed off, and Krillin easily surpasses him by end of Frieza saga. Lee, even with the gates all opened, is maybe a 500 power level tops. Even Jump Fiesta and Ultimate Stars rank all Naruto characters below Dragonball characters in terms of power.
Exactly.
12 year old Goku wins.
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#23
17 Jan 2008 03:30 pm
Biggs
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Seriously people in Naruto where STUNNED-stupid that Lee was moving too fast to be seen. In Dragonball that was par the course by the end of their first Tenkaichi Budokai (Goku was twelve). They even have the Shadow Clone Jutsu (Tien, Chaozu, Krillin and Cell) but rarely use it because afterimages are just so much more effective. The guy who writes Naruto even BLATANTLY admitted that his characters are based on Dragonball (Naruto’s orange suit and yellow hair are a tribute to SSJ Goku, no joke, look it up). Seriously, Lee fought Gaara’s sheild and Kimimaro’s sheild. The first is merely condensed sand, which is essentially rock or, at best, a light metal and Lee couldn’t beat him. Then you have Kimimaro, condensed bone, which should be even weaker (a hyena could bite through it). Lee, again, couldn’t break it. Krillin, on the other hand, can level mountains. That’s EASILY like defeating twenty Gaara’s in one blast.
Biggs wrote:
Seriously people in Naruto where STUNNED-stupid that Lee was moving too fast to be seen. In Dragonball that was par the course by the end of their first Tenkaichi Budokai (Goku was twelve). They even have the Shadow Clone Jutsu (Tien, Chaozu, Krillin and Cell) but rarely use it because afterimages are just so much more effective. The guy who writes Naruto even BLATANTLY admitted that his characters are based on Dragonball (Naruto’s orange suit and yellow hair are a tribute to SSJ Goku, no joke, look it up). Seriously, Lee fought Gaara’s sheild and Kimimaro’s sheild. The first is merely condensed sand, which is essentially rock or, at best, a light metal and Lee couldn’t beat him. Then you have Kimimaro, condensed bone, which should be even weaker (a hyena could bite through it). Lee, again, couldn’t break it. Krillin, on the other hand, can level mountains. That’s EASILY like defeating twenty Gaara’s in one blast.
Yep. And, I don’t think Lee could catch a destructo disc with his bare hands. XD
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#25
17 Jan 2008 03:35 pm
Biggs
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Course not, the Kienzan (Destructo Disk) cuts through anything. It even sliced through Frieza, whose power level was like ten times that of Krillins when they fought.
Naruto fanboys are always going on about how “Naruto could beat Goku! Sasuke could beat Vegeta!" and fial to realize how incredibly MORTAL people in Naruto are compared to Dragonball Z. People in Naruto can be killed by being stabbed with ORDINARY STEEL KUNAI. The Dragonball guys shrug off planet-ending blasts with a grin and keep fighting.
when anyone in Naruto can move close to light speed destroy Galaxy’s and survive 450 time’s gravity let me know
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#28
17 Jan 2008 04:19 pm
Biggs
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EXACTLY! Thank you Kyle.
Until someone in Naruto nukes a moon this and all other DBZ VS Naruto topics are banned. BLAM!
#29
17 Jan 2008 04:22 pm
Madara The King
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Kakashi didn’t really get stab the pain was in his mind like the pain will be in goku’s mind plus he can be stab if he wasn’t in ssj in the saiyian vegeta got his tail cut off with a sword duh.
Plus itachi turned that shadow clone of itachi into paper itachi can do more then just stab people he is like God in that world and no matter how strong goku get he can’t beat God thats for sure turn goku into paper and light him on fire Goku has a fire like in his fight with nova.
And the swords aren’t real so they would break duh. You don’t really watch or read naruto that much do you?
...dude what make’s you think Goku is weak enough to be effected by Itachi’s mind game’s it’s proven that even Babidi’s mind control was only able to catch Vegeta because he allowed him to and Goku was surprissed by this saying “Vegeta i dident think you were weak enough to be controlled” and even then Vegeta was able to overcome Babidi’s will and control himself.
Goku only need’s to Solar Flare Itachi then punch him out...
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#31
17 Jan 2008 04:30 pm
Biggs
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Based on that post I’m guessing Madara has close to NO knowledge of just how beefy Dragonball Z people are.
K, first of all, if you think Goku will even need to use SSJ for this you obviously have no idea how power levels work, nor how beasty NORMAL Goku is. As for the Vegeta tail thing, 1. Vegeta’s guard was dropped 2. Yajirobe is mega strong 3. It’s possible the sword was enhanced with his own chi.
If you think Itachi is a god then you CLEARLY haven’t seen much Dragonball, or read many comics, or.........pretty much TONS of other manga. There are literal countries of people who outclass Itachi by entire leagues. You do realize that close to 80% of Itachi’s powers are derived from illusions from the Sharingan, he isn’t nearly as beasty as you think he is just really good at manipulating people’s minds.
Now answer me this, how does Itachi get out of this scenario. The fight bell rings and Goku literally VANISHES, moving at close to light speed behind Itachi. Before Itachi’s brain can send the nerve response to his eyelids to blink and use the Sharingan, Goku has smashed his skull with a punch strong enough to level a mountain. Game Over.
Considering I’m willing to bet even Chaotzu could solo the Naruto verse why is this being debated?Also Sharingan is not as godly as some people think.
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#33
17 Jan 2008 04:33 pm
Biggs
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"...dude what make’s you think Goku is weak enough to be effected by Itachi’s mind game’s it’s proven that even Babidi’s mind control was only able to catch Vegeta because he allowed him to and Goku was surprissed by this saying “Vegeta i dident think you were weak enough to be controlled” and even then Vegeta was able to overcome Babidi’s will and control himself.
Goku only need’s to Solar Flare Itachi then punch him out..."
Not even that, Goku is EASILY fast enough to just Vanishing Attack Itachi (move behind him too fast to be seen and attack). And yeah you are right, Babidi’s psychic control>Itachi’s. Babidi was the world’s most powerful magician, he could port people across interstellar distances in a blink and could make people explode at a thought. Itachi comes NOWHERE close to him in terms of mental manipulation, and this is the guy Vegeta ALLOWED to 'take over' his mind (although he never really did) and gain more power. Essentially Vegeta shrugged off the world’s most powerful sorceror’s mind control like it was a party gimmick.
#34
17 Jan 2008 04:35 pm
Madara The King
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Goku doesn’t even know what a sharingan so why would he do all of that Biggs face goku loses accept it. Plus goku has a weak mind I like goku but he can be realy dumb. stop getting mad.
Madara The King wrote:
Goku doesn’t even know what a sharingan so why would he do all of that Biggs face goku loses accept it. Plus goku has a weak mind I like goku but he can be realy dumb. stop getting mad.
Babidi couldn’t effect Gokus mind.What is Sharingan going to do?Theres also the fact that theres a massive speed,and power advantage.Itachi made a hole in a frogs stomach.Goku can blow up planets.
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Last edited 17 Jan 2008 04:40 pm by Kyle Knight
#37
17 Jan 2008 04:38 pm
Biggs
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"All of that?" Using a vanishing attack in Dragonball is as basic as throwing a punch, odds are it would be the first thing Goku would do in the fight.
And Goku does NOT have a weak mind, just because he is simple minded does not mean he is weak minded at all. Goku’s willpower is second to none, you have to break all this guys bones and even THEN he will keep fighting. Plus in terms of combat he is a genius.
And we’ve already proven the Sharingan will not work on Goku.
#38
17 Jan 2008 04:45 pm
Madara The King
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No it hasn’t I’ve dbz they stare at each before they fight besides it you haven’t proven a thing kakashi and sasuke are not weak mind and it work on him it will work on goku.
#39
17 Jan 2008 04:49 pm
Madara The King
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No it hasn’t I’ve seen dbz they stare at each before they fight besides it you haven’t proven a thing kakashi and sasuke are not weak mind and it work on him it will work on goku.
#40
17 Jan 2008 04:52 pm
Biggs
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"No it hasn’t I’ve dbz they stare at each before they fight besides it you haven’t proven a thing kakashi and sasuke are not weak mind and it work on him it will work on goku."
That’s complete speculation on your part. Since when is STARING SOMEONE DOWN, REQUIRED in Dragonball? In most of the Tenkaichi Budokai fights the second the bell rings Goku vanishes.
Sasuke and Kakashi have never dealt with ANYTHING near Babidi’s level, and probably never will. If Babidi even thought about them, even if they were on the other side of the planet, both Sasuke and Kakashi would explode. Babidi, the guy whose mind control Goku and Vegeta shrugged off like it was nothing.
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