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07 Nov 2007 02:51 pm
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bAyBeE_ChRoNiC wrote:


Not to the same extent and that type of thing is usually present in third world countries, where they are sort of still 'trapped in the past'.



Woah hun. I know you didn’t mean to but I find that really offensive. That was a really prejudice thing to say.

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07 Nov 2007 02:53 pm
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treeplanter wrote:
bAyBeE_ChRoNiC wrote:


Not to the same extent and that type of thing is usually present in third world countries, where they are sort of still 'trapped in the past'.



Woah hun. I know you didn’t mean to but I find that really offensive. That was a really prejudice thing to say.



Umm, you idiot my fiancé comes from a developing country so no I’m not prejudice and thats really ignorant to think it was prejudice.

Its a fact. People in third world countries go by tradition, because thats all they know. Its not like its their fault ?

And you completely ignored the fact that I put emphasis on the word 'usually'.

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07 Nov 2007 02:59 pm
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You know I’m getting tired of white people being blamed for “bringing down the minorities” or being “hateful”. Everyone hates us.

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bAyBeE_ChRoNiC wrote:


Umm, you idiot my fiancé comes from a developing country so no I’m not prejudice and thats really ignorant to think it was prejudice.

Its a fact. People in third world countries go by tradition, because thats all they know. Its not like its their fault ?

And you completely ignored the fact that I put emphasis on the word 'usually'.




Lol, alright alright calm down.

I just thought “trapped in the past” was a bit much is all. That’s great that you’re not prejudice...but in my opinion everyone is to some extent, you can’t really help it.

Your fiance may be from a developing country and share your view, but that doesn’t make it right.

And that’s just my opinion. I don’t think the “modern” way is the “right” way, so I don’t considerer peoples who follow 'traditional' ways to be “stuck in the past”



My real problem was your linking that to the reason why most genocide occurs in developing or third world counties.

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07 Nov 2007 03:03 pm
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ramunematt wrote: You know I’m getting tired of white people being blamed for “bringing down the minorities” or being “hateful”. Everyone hates us.



Don’t worry, everybody hates everybody.

You should go out and spread some lovin'winksmiley

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07 Nov 2007 03:11 pm
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treeplanter wrote:
bAyBeE_ChRoNiC wrote:


Umm, you idiot my fiancé comes from a developing country so no I’m not prejudice and thats really ignorant to think it was prejudice.

Its a fact. People in third world countries go by tradition, because thats all they know. Its not like its their fault ?

And you completely ignored the fact that I put emphasis on the word 'usually'.




Lol, alright alright calm down.

I just thought “trapped in the past” was a bit much is all. That’s great that you’re not prejudice...but in my opinion everyone is to some extent, you can’t really help it.

Your fiance may be from a developing country and share your view, but that doesn’t make it right.

And that’s just my opinion. I don’t think the “modern” way is the “right” way, so I don’t considerer peoples who follow 'traditional' ways to be “stuck in the past”



My real problem was your linking that to the reason why most genocide occurs in developing or third world counties.



No, I was saying thats where it happens more often than in a non developing country. I also used the word 'usually' and I wasn’t linking that direct idea.

No one ever said the modern way is the right way, and that tradition is bad, tradition can be very good, and hey , its worked for them all these years has it not?

All I was saying was that because these people don’t have appropriate resources, because they don’t have money, or a functioning human rights system that is enforced, which is essential to protect society, is why mass genocide and acts related would occur more often in a developing country.

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07 Nov 2007 03:26 pm
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bAyBeE_ChRoNiC wrote:


No, I was saying thats where it happens more often than in a non developing country. I also used the word 'usually' and I wasn’t linking that direct idea.

No one ever said the modern way is the right way, and that tradition is bad, tradition can be very good, and hey , its worked for them all these years has it not?

All I was saying was that because these people don’t have appropriate resources, because they don’t have money, or a functioning human rights system that is enforced, which is essential to protect society, is why mass genocide and acts related would occur more often in a developing country.



Alright fair enough.
I think those are good points. Do you take those at face value or do you see the deeper meaning behind them?

For instance, is it really a lack of money that’s the problem or is it that these counties have been subjected to imperialist rule and now an economy dominated by the “west” in which they 'must' adopt to 'survive'.
Could one reason they don’t have appropriate resources is because the richest in society is exploiting them?

Anyway, my mode of thinking is kind of like that. Looking into the past and the larger systems to understanding big problems like one of genocide.

I think what I was getting at with my original comment was that genocide is occurring today, but that we’re not all that more informed or less-ignorant about it.
It just takes on different forms, and different ways of framing the suject.

Over and over again the phrase “never again” is mocked. And rightly so.

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07 Nov 2007 03:48 pm
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treeplanter wrote:
bAyBeE_ChRoNiC wrote:


No, I was saying thats where it happens more often than in a non developing country. I also used the word 'usually' and I wasn’t linking that direct idea.

No one ever said the modern way is the right way, and that tradition is bad, tradition can be very good, and hey , its worked for them all these years has it not?

All I was saying was that because these people don’t have appropriate resources, because they don’t have money, or a functioning human rights system that is enforced, which is essential to protect society, is why mass genocide and acts related would occur more often in a developing country.



Alright fair enough.
I think those are good points. Do you take those at face value or do you see the deeper meaning behind them?

For instance, is it really a lack of money that’s the problem or is it that these counties have been subjected to imperialist rule and now an economy dominated by the “west” in which they 'must' adopt to 'survive'.
Could one reason they don’t have appropriate resources is because the richest in society is exploiting them?

Anyway, my mode of thinking is kind of like that. Looking into the past and the larger systems to understanding big problems like one of genocide.

I think what I was getting at with my original comment was that genocide is occurring today, but that we’re not all that more informed or less-ignorant about it.
It just takes on different forms, and different ways of framing the suject.

Over and over again the phrase “never again” is mocked. And rightly so.



Fair enough. Like I said I think the hugest problems over there is lack of human rights and laws that are enforced. The Universal Declaration of Human Rights that was passed after WWII, outlined everyone’s rights as human beings and unfortunately these standards are not met in many countries.

Think of the ideologies. If all people were good, we wouldn’t need rules. If all people were reasonable we wouldn’t need rules. Since that Utopia doesn’t exist, and we have bad people, laws are essential. When they aren’t enforced, we have a problem.

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bAyBeE_ChRoNiC wrote:

Fair enough. Like I said I think the hugest problems over there is lack of human rights and laws that are enforced. The Universal Declaration of Human Rights that was passed after WWII, outlined everyone’s rights as human beings and unfortunately these standards are not met in many countries.

Think of the ideologies. If all people were good, we wouldn’t need rules. If all people were reasonable we wouldn’t need rules. Since that Utopia doesn’t exist, and we have bad people, laws are essential. When they aren’t enforced, we have a problem.



Ya, laws are a funny thing. I know I don’t believe that “top down” solutions are the way to go (enforcing more laws instead of getting to the root of the problem), but at the same time I don’t really think having no laws on murder (or other not-nice things) particularly good idea.

I probably have more to say but I’ve got to run.

Good convowink

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Shit, white people are not the only problem in this world. Everyone is the damn problem.

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07 Nov 2007 08:18 pm
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treeplanter wrote:
bAyBeE_ChRoNiC wrote:

Fair enough. Like I said I think the hugest problems over there is lack of human rights and laws that are enforced. The Universal Declaration of Human Rights that was passed after WWII, outlined everyone’s rights as human beings and unfortunately these standards are not met in many countries.

Think of the ideologies. If all people were good, we wouldn’t need rules. If all people were reasonable we wouldn’t need rules. Since that Utopia doesn’t exist, and we have bad people, laws are essential. When they aren’t enforced, we have a problem.



Ya, laws are a funny thing. I know I don’t believe that “top down” solutions are the way to go (enforcing more laws instead of getting to the root of the problem), but at the same time I don’t really think having no laws on murder (or other not-nice things) particularly good idea.

I probably have more to say but I’ve got to run.

Good convowink


Yea smiley

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bAyBeE_ChRoNiC wrote: Lol everyone thought Hitler’s idea was good back in the day tho.


Except for the millions of people in the Allied forces. No, not “everyone” thought it was a good idea, just the Nazis.

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Sean of the Living wrote:
bAyBeE_ChRoNiC wrote: Lol everyone thought Hitler’s idea was good back in the day tho.


Except for the millions of people in the Allied forces. No, not “everyone” thought it was a good idea, just the Nazis.

and the japanese and italian’s and hungarians and russians(at the start of the war not later)

and some troops of the axis didnt even know what going on and when they found out they usually killed themselves

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jomas the grunt wrote:
Sean of the Living wrote:
bAyBeE_ChRoNiC wrote: Lol everyone thought Hitler’s idea was good back in the day tho.


Except for the millions of people in the Allied forces. No, not “everyone” thought it was a good idea, just the Nazis.

and the japanese and italian’s and hungarians and russians(at the start of the war not later)

and some troops of the axis didnt even know what going on and when they found out they usually killed themselves


Well that’s not “everyone” is it?

A more correct statement would say “A lot of people thought it was a good idea” or “The axis powers thought it was a good idea"

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exterminate white people? no, but America happens to work in the white person’s favor every time so i see why non-whites hate america. even affirmative action and welfare don’t help minorities as much. affirmative action helps blacks and hispanics, discriminates jews and asians, and doesn’t affect whites at all. welfare is subject to controversy. some people want to reduce it because it costs money. and that type of money usually comes out of a white guy’s pockets.

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WHAT KINDA QUESTION IS THAT. I WILL SAY THIS I’M NOT WHITE, AND ALTHOUGH THEY ARE THE CAUSE OF OUR PROBLEMS DUE TO THE WHITE RULED RACIST GOVERNMENT SYSTEM IN WHICH WE LIVE, WE MUST TRY TO DIVERSIFY THE SYSTEM RATHER THAN UNIFY IT. OH, AND IF YOU ARE NOT WHITE YOU CANNOT BE RACIST. RACISM IS A SYSTEM OF ADVANTAGE BASED ON RACE, THEREFORE ONLY WHITES CAN BE RACIST. ALL WHITES ARE RACIST!! SOME WHITES ARE PASSIVE RACIST (THOSE WHO DON’T TRY TO BE CHANGE THE SYSTEM), SOME ARE ADVOCATE OR PRO RACIST (THOSE WHO TRY TO REINFORCE THE RACIST SYSTEM IN WHICH WE LIVE), THEN THERE ARE THOSE WHO ARE ANTI-RACIST(THOSE WHO ARE AGAINST THE RACIST GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE AND TRYING TO CHANGE IT), NONE THE LESS RACIST BECAUSE THEY RECIEVE THE BENIFTS AND PRIVLEGES THAT GO ALONG WITH LIVING IN RACIST GOVERNMENT SYSTEM. WHITES ARE TO BLAME FOR THE UNEQUAL OPPORTUNITES PRESENTED IN AMERICA. IF YOU NEED ME TO EXPLAIN HOW OPPORTUNITES BASED ON RACE ARE UNEQUAL, LET ME KNOW. I CAN DO THAT! YA DIG!

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I am white, and i say kill whitey! just so i don’t have to listen to everyone on earth blame me for their problems. white, male, hetoro, and american! you’re lucky i let you breathe. now someone should off me so i don’t have to hear it anymore! lol!

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HUEY FREEMAN wrote: WHAT KINDA QUESTION IS THAT. I WILL SAY THIS I’M NOT WHITE, AND ALTHOUGH THEY ARE THE CAUSE OF OUR PROBLEMS DUE TO THE WHITE RULED RACIST GOVERNMENT SYSTEM IN WHICH WE LIVE, WE MUST TRY TO DIVERSIFY THE SYSTEM RATHER THAN UNIFY IT. OH, AND IF YOU ARE NOT WHITE YOU CANNOT BE RACIST. RACISM IS A SYSTEM OF ADVANTAGE BASED ON RACE, THEREFORE ONLY WHITES CAN BE RACIST. ALL WHITES ARE RACIST!! SOME WHITES ARE PASSIVE RACIST (THOSE WHO DON’T TRY TO BE CHANGE THE SYSTEM), SOME ARE ADVOCATE OR PRO RACIST (THOSE WHO TRY TO REINFORCE THE RACIST SYSTEM IN WHICH WE LIVE), THEN THERE ARE THOSE WHO ARE ANTI-RACIST(THOSE WHO ARE AGAINST THE RACIST GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE AND TRYING TO CHANGE IT), NONE THE LESS RACIST BECAUSE THEY RECIEVE THE BENIFTS AND PRIVLEGES THAT GO ALONG WITH LIVING IN RACIST GOVERNMENT SYSTEM. WHITES ARE TO BLAME FOR THE UNEQUAL OPPORTUNITES PRESENTED IN AMERICA. IF YOU NEED ME TO EXPLAIN HOW OPPORTUNITES BASED ON RACE ARE UNEQUAL, LET ME KNOW. I CAN DO THAT! YA DIG!

i’m gunna make a new term for people. EXCUSIVIST! and the definition shall be . anyone who finds an excuse to blame their failure on. since they cannot be called racist. example; huey freeman you are an excusivist.

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