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23 Nov 2007 01:12 am
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wow thats prett long.
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24 Dec 2007 05:20 pm
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THIS COUNTRY OF AMERICA WAS FOUNDED ON CHRISTIAN PRINCIPLES BECAUSE THEY REALIZED IT WAS A WAY TO GET CONTROL OF PEOPLE AS AN INVISIBLE HAND COUPLED WITH THE HAND OF CONSTITUTIONAL LAW, WHICH LAWS ARE JUST AS AMBIGUOUS AS THE BIBLE PASSAGES IN INTERPRATATION AND MEANING,TO KEEP ORDER, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY PREVENT A MASS OVERTHROW OF THE FUTURE CORRUPT GOVERNMENT TO COME. (I.E THE GOVERNMENT WE ARE CURRENTLY UNDER, NOT TO MENTION WHEN NIXON WAS IN OFFICE, REAGAN-BUSH ADMINSITRATION, THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION JUST TO NAME A FEW OF THE MOST DAMAGING AND POLITICALLY CORRUPT ONES) WE JUST NEED TO BE COMMIES!
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27 Dec 2007 09:14 pm
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The way the founding 'fathers' of america wrote the contatution is exactly how a athiest would write it.. They may have believe in a god, but they sure didnt believe in the bible.
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06 Jan 2008 06:42 pm
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Yeah your rite to an extent, but I don’t think you get my point. It was founded on Christian principles because if it wasn’t why do we have to put our hand on the bible when we go to court, or why do Presidents put their hand on the bible when they are inaugarated, because Chrisitian principles are at the base of it all. The founding fathers had to contradict themselves in order to get the type of support they wanted, while at the same time trying to maintain a sense of Christianity in the persuasion process of gaining control/ power. Not only that, religion, particularly Christianity, was a part of everyday life and there would have been no way they would have never gained support of its creation by its future citizens. Clearly the bill of rights was a reflection of the time period, and how they believed things should be which may have been contradictory to some Christian, but nonetheless the citizens were clearly protected and aimed at being pleased in its creation; therefore, since interpretation of Chrisitan principles governed the time period the Constitution must be largely representative of Christian principles.
P.S. The first Amendment statement about freedom of religion was probably aimed at the different denonminations which seperates christians from one another.
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06 Jan 2008 08:47 pm
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Zucas wrote: Well really one of the reasons they wanted to create freedom of religion and install a government that was free from it, is becuase they just came from Europe, which had come times where the Catholic Church basically ran a dictatorship over all of Europe. MOst of the founding fathers wanted to escape this. They may have been Christians themselves, but in no way did they want to give any kind of religion any political power, as this was one of their reasons to coming to America was to escapte the corrupt clutches of the Church in Europe.

But its comming around full circle... american turning into another church run country.. just like the old times.
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Philosophical Mind wrote: Yeah your rite to an extent, but I don’t think you get my point. It was founded on Christian principles because if it wasn’t why do we have to put our hand on the bible when we go to court, or why do Presidents put their hand on the bible when they are inaugarated, because Chrisitian principles are at the base of it all. The founding fathers had to contradict themselves in order to get the type of support they wanted, while at the same time trying to maintain a sense of Christianity in the persuasion process of gaining control/ power. Not only that, religion, particularly Christianity, was a part of everyday life and there would have been no way they would have never gained support of its creation by its future citizens. Clearly the bill of rights was a reflection of the time period, and how they believed things should be which may have been contradictory to some Christian, but nonetheless the citizens were clearly protected and aimed at being pleased in its creation; therefore, since interpretation of Chrisitan principles governed the time period the Constitution must be largely representative of Christian principles.
P.S. The first Amendment statement about freedom of religion was probably aimed at the different denonminations which seperates christians from one another.

its still freedom from religion.. not denominations, you have confuse what has later been added on to the goverment, eg in god we trust on pretty much everything, etc etc. This all came into goverment years later.
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I have one thing and one thing only to say, SEE THE TREATY OF TRIPOLI!! (ok two things for those too lazy to look it up) It declares the U.S. is not founded on nor should it ever be a xtian nation. IT IS A SECULAR NATION that happens to have a majority xtian population (and I aim to fix that problem lol, non violently off course. what do you take me for a crusader?).
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Yes, it is clear that America is founded as secular country. Sadly, that doesn’t change certain Christians from trying to change that. Fucking Knights of Columbus.
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